The growing large plants, outdoors, thread...

[headband 707]

IMHO

IMHO

Greetings Tom and all posters of this thread.

Thank you all for the info posted. Great info.

Been thinking on how to grow top quality buds with high yields for the past several weeks for the upcoming season.

I am in an area with high heat combined with coastal fog.

Although recent harvests have been ok I know I can do much better.

This thread has explained quite a bit I needed to learn.

One question (please nobody laugh or flame) Oh hell go ahead.....

Been using clones for the past several harvests. This year I obtained feminized seeds from Green House, DNA and others.

IYHO is feminized a good thing or not for outdoor with high yields in mind?

Guido88

Well bro the problem with fem seeds is they herm under stress and outside there is lots for plants to stress about or there can be in some cases or places. So unless anyone else has had any other success and wants to chime in thats what I've found. peace out Headband707

 

[Hash Man]

yea man, only 1... Seems like she should have done a whole lot more. I think Nomaad pulled 2-3 from his Tahoe OG... With her Sativa structure, and the fact that she will yield 2 lb per 1000 watt light indoors, leads me to believe that if grown correctly outdoors, the yield could be up their with trainwreck... but thats all speculation. Anyone here get insane yields from the tahoe, or any other ogkush for that matter?

 

[theJointedOne]

a guy i knnow last year got 7 off a tahoe, but he is all miracle grown nastyness plus some, but the plant was huge

 

[nomaad]

The "OG" I was running in the big pot was not even OG... it was Headband. Biggest plant was a full 4 pounder. I do have the Tahoe OG, but only flowered it in a 10 gallon pot... gave me almost 1/2 lb.

The Tahoe, however, does REALLY good in the black box. Better then the Sour D I have which gave me 3.5lbs outside. Convoluted comparison, but there u have it. I will be running a bunch of it in my black boxes. We should trade cuts so we can confirm they are both Tahoe (or at least the same thing.)

 

[theJointedOne]

are there any strains you guys feel are more prone to flower early if placed out early may?

any that are proven not to?

 

[baet]

i was referring to the worm factory out by the dump, their vermicompost. not the worm farm in durham, my mistake sorry, get confused... do the worm factory. use their vermicompost as your medium. cheaper than buying bags of soil, and its compost, i dont see how you could do better...

 

[baet]

Before you go and spend money out in Durham, you may want to consider the “wonder of worms” out by the dump instead. The Durham guy has long windrows of compost (digested cow manure specifically) outside that he says worms are in. He then sells this as worm castings. The nice folks out by the dump, by contrast, feed their worms a wide variety of materials and harvest the castings from the bottom of commercial worm beds. In my mind, this is the only way to get true castings. What the guy in Durham is doing is dishonest, imho...

^^ yes


worm factory by the dump.

sorry for the confusion cityoftrees530.

 

[baet]

Hey butte thanks for the clear up, i always get the two confused and call the worm factory the duram worm farm b/c its right off 99 and i take durham road to get there, but yeah its the one near the dump that has the good worm castings.

heres thelink, actually a very nice site http://www.earthwormsoilfactory.com/home.htm

Have you talked to nancy yet Butte?

godamn me too jointedone, i just realized theres one in durham called the worm farm, i was just calling the worm factory the worm farm, ha. shit

 

[nomaad]

The "OG" I was running in the big pot was not even OG... it was Headband. Biggest plant was a full 4 pounder. I do have the Tahoe OG, but only flowered it in a 10 gallon pot... gave me almost 1/2 lb.

The Tahoe, however, does REALLY good in the black box. Better then the Sour D I have which gave me 3.5lbs outside. Convoluted comparison, but there u have it. I will be running a bunch of it in my black boxes. We should trade cuts so we can confirm they are both Tahoe (or at least the same thing.)

I should note that I do not have the best sun for running the OG/HB/SD outside... it really needs that good shit at the end of the run... unlike the Blue Dream, for example... It took almost as long as those strains, but nugged the fuck out even when the sun started ducking behind the treetops and there were more grey days than clear ones... In my black box, the SD was some much more dense than the full season stuff...

 

[theJointedOne]

Right on Nomaad.

Looks like i might be pulling tarp this summer for the first time. Green Crack!

Wondering what peoples suggestions would be for container size in the dep, i was thinking 30! gallon smarts.

Hope you all are nice and busy. Haha what am i saying i KNOW you are all f'in busy.

Irie!

 

[nomaad]

I use 65's in my light dep. its al;so what I am using for the mom's in my GH. It all depends on how long you veg for. Last year i did not veg long enough and I probably would have pulled down the same yield from 20gals. This year, there will be a proper veg.

 

[Dkgrower]

Loving all the information in this Tread,

Bom Shiva

 

[planty]

30 gallons is a good size for your light dep.

 

[baet]

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[Sir Schranzalot]

Even though I am a beginner at growing I have a hypothetical question to the "monster plant growers" in this thread. Do you think its possible to yield several pounds from every strain? Implying the conditions are good?

 

[baet]

^yes
several being 2-3 lbs



edit: this is purely speculation, but i'd be willing to bet every plant could be pushed to 5-6 lbs if given everything it absolutely needs IMO. not sure though, this will be my first season going big everything.

 

[Sir Schranzalot]

Thanks for the quick response Another question is if its really possible to yield as much as 10 or 12 or even 15 lbs. from one single plant. I´ve read something like that in this thread, but I just cant belive it

I´d love to hear other opinions

Sir Schranzalot

 

[theJointedOne]

i know a few heads looking to put the world record harvest around 100 pound plant. They want to veg for two years outside in a large three story GH then flower her, lots of water!

 

[reservationlabs]

Thanks for the quick response Another question is if its really possible to yield as much as 10 or 12 or even 15 lbs. from one single plant. I´ve read something like that in this thread, but I just cant belive it

I´d love to hear other opinions

Sir Schranzalot

Maybe a Trainwreck plant in Australia.

The most I have pulled is 7lbs off of one of my Northern Dream plants. The most I have seen anyone from my "Team" do was 9lbs off of a Dream Queen x Hindu Kush cross plant.

Just consistent pulls of say 15lbs from every plant in your garden I "personally" (and that is only my thoughts) don't think it is something I would bank on happening.

 

[nomaad]

I have seen an entire garden of 9-12 pounders. The person responsible has consistently succeeded at the "last year's biggest is this year's smallest" paradigm. If he continues that success, this year's garden will see no plant smaller than 12.

reservationlabs: nobody would have believed you could get cosistent 7 pounders a decade ago. If they are vegged right and the holes are big enough... I don't see why consistent 15-20 pounders are not possible...

TJO: that sounds like a pretty serious mission... i would say that they are going to run into problems with a plant that old. I'm not saying its not possible... you could train the right strain into a really gigantic squat plant... fill a 100x100 greenhouse with 24" of dank soil and a whole bunch of lights... I could see it... but old plants don't produce as well as young ones according to some experiments my friedns have done. Anyone who has flowered their 2 year old moms will agree that they get better yields from clones cut from her and flowered in the course of a normal growin season. Regardless, I'd like to visit the site where this project is being undertaken!

oh... and schranz...i agree with baet that 2-3 pounders could be acheieved with any of the genetics I have run.... and, if you know the training and feeding specifics really well for each strain, you can work some real magic. I would have never thought that a 7lb grape ape was possible (having grown it) but by pruning the long stemmed leaves aggressively, you can more than double the yield from that strain.