Advance Nutrients is an amazing brand

[ukganjafarmer]

This thread was an amusing read, my conclusion: Advanced Nutrients is NOT an Amazing Brand!

i cant beleive people go buy like 10+ bottles of nutes, its a joke !!

 

[KyndBud]

This thread was an amusing read, my conclusion: Advanced Nutrients is NOT an Amazing Brand!

i cant beleive people go buy like 10+ bottles of nutes, its a joke !!

I'm not trying to be a dick, but let me put this into perspective for you, because like I tell people at my store, AN is NOT for everyone, only those who want maximize their results. Heres the breakdown for you...

So I have 4 1k Watt lights, most people would yield on average 1 lb per light with GH or any other poor quality fert. With AN, you can easily expect your yields to jump another 1/4 or 1/2 lb per light. I can say this because I've seen it with my own eyes, as well as recieveing testimonials from customers every day. Now I may have paid an extra $400 in nutrients for the cycle, but I'm yielding 6 lbs instead of 4 lbs now. I wont talk $, but I'm sure you can get the idea that nute costs is piddly shit compared to what your pulling. 1/4 of a light pays for the nutes and electricity.

Now I'm not saying you can't pull 1-1/2 lb per light with any other nutrient brand, but its going to take you 3 or 4 runs with the same variety trying to get everything dialed. With AN, you can get great results the first run, not the 4th. They are trying to make it easier for you the consumer by having their bases mix at 4 ml/l and all of their additives are mixing at 2ml/l. Couldn't get any easier.

I can only say these things because I work with the product every day and we sell the shit out of it because......it works!

Have a nice day

Peace
KB

 

[toohighmf]

why don't you do a comparison? 2 lights of AN, and 2 lights of FNB. lets see how much difference there is. I helped make AN very popular and I know I did better with straight GH lucas.

 

[Bud Bug]

I'm not trying to be a dick, but let me put this into perspective for you, because like I tell people at my store, AN is NOT for everyone, only those who want maximize their results. Heres the breakdown for you...

Well right there you are biased cause you sell the stuff and I bet you 100% AN gives you free products as samples like say Bud Candy or Voodoo. Why Voodoo, well cause its cheap for them.

What do you mean not for everyone? Yet you say if maximizes the results which right there should be for everyone.

So I have 4 1k Watt lights, most people would yield on average 1 lb per light with GH or any other poor quality fert. With AN, you can easily expect your yields to jump another 1/4 or 1/2 lb per light. I can say this because I've seen it with my own eyes, as well as recieveing testimonials from customers every day. Now I may have paid an extra $400 in nutrients for the cycle, but I'm yielding 6 lbs instead of 4 lbs now. I wont talk $, but I'm sure you can get the idea that nute costs is piddly shit compared to what your pulling. 1/4 of a light pays for the nutes and electricity.

Now I'm not saying you can't pull 1-1/2 lb per light with any other nutrient brand, but its going to take you 3 or 4 runs with the same variety trying to get everything dialed. With AN, you can get great results the first run, not the 4th. They are trying to make it easier for you the consumer by having their bases mix at 4 ml/l and all of their additives are mixing at 2ml/l. Couldn't get any easier.

What are you talking about? Can you be anymore vague? What strain? What veg/flower period? What grow medium? Co2?

This is just as bad as their 2+ Program advertising? 2+ what? They don't state the variables when they advertise! Oh you mean 2+ out of those huge monster plants grown in blue 55gal barrels that you vegged for 8 weeks and flowered for 14. Anyone can do that even using Peters/Scott's powdered food.

 

[toohighmf]

yep, floramato, maxibloom, peters 20-20-20 will definitely do it. a dead fish will do it. ask your girl for a tampon. that'll produce 2+ no problem!

 

[ukganjafarmer]

yep, floramato, maxibloom, peters 20-20-20 will definitely do it. a dead fish will do it. ask your girl for a tampon. that'll produce 2+ no problem!

hahahaha love it!

 

[KyndBud]

not worth my time...i have my 2+ lbs per light to trim up, heh

 

[ukganjafarmer]

lol ....

 

[toohighmf]

I have 2.5 to trim and im only using GH micro/bloom and my girls rags...

 

[couchlockd]

an rocks its all in how you use it.....which SHOULD be very lightly and every other watering in soiless. and if you go light like you should they are cheaper overall than anything aout there.

 

[thatguy]

....AN is NOT for everyone, only those who want maximize their results.

Holy sweet jesus.

Anyone else seen these EXACT words in AN literature and that new POS mag Rosebud? The mag published by big Mike and has nothing but AN ads in it?

KB, you may not work directly for AN, but you're being a sleazy ass salesman for em nonetheless.... Maybe you should apply for a job in their marketing dept.

AN ain't got some special ass magic potions that are gonna make all the other nutes look pathetic.... It's just lazy ass growers that are satisfied with copying what others have done, or just do what they're told instead of dialing their nutes and strains in.

Yeah, AN's schedule and nutes may do better for a newb their 1st run, but I'll guarantee that if you spend the time and effort dialing GH in you'll end up outperforming the AN in short order.

Just based on the sleazy marketing alone ( their whole "AN is only for those who want to maximize their results" campaign leaves a foul ass taste in my mouth. Think of someone who's never grown before. You gonna buy the shit that says NASA uses it, or the shit that tells you you're stupid if you use the other stuff. What are you gonna get? ) I'd never buy their products.

A company has to not only have good products, but good ethics, IMHO.

All the best,
TG

 

[Bud Bug]

A company has to not only have good products, but good ethics, IMHO.

And this is why I will never support them. If you have to use questionable ways to promote your products and spend so much money on advertising your products it means you know your product is inferior or just like the others and you try to make up for it with ads and being loud.

 

[mullray]

What's everyones opinion of this??

What's everyones opinion of this??

I came across this and was staggered by it. Big Mike has made a new video on the Sunlight Supply/ Advanced Nutrients war. This time he has an embittered ex employee of Sunlight Supply narcing out his ex employer. Big Mike really looks like a grass in this piece - exposing criminal activity (he alleges) in Sunlight Supplies activities (for all intents and purposes trying to provide authorities with intel on a loose premise and hearsay). I feel this deserves its own thread but can't start new threads by the looks of it. Philosophically this is as corrupt and low as it get's. AN narcing out the competition on a public broadcast.

http://www.growersunderground.com/bellyofthebeast/

Sunlight Supply Wire Mail And Bank Fraud
13 Mar 2010

13 Mar, 2010 Bigger Yields Flowering System, Hobbyist Grower, Plant Advanced Nutrients, Sensi Bloom, pH-PPM Perfect

http://www.GrowersUnderground.com/BellyoftheBeast – Wire, mail, bank fraud and Sunlight Supply in this video. Hey I had to make another video because Craig Hargreaves is apparently hard of hearing. Obviously this video is about some very serious and heavy stuff. Not for the faint of heart. I’m going to be giving you a full and detailed interview because of this it’s 34 minutes in length. And frankly its not for everybody.

Here’s the deal, I got an interview with an ex-employee of Sunlight Supply and he goes into great depth about how the good ol’ boys do business. If your a hydroponics store owner you’re absolutely going to be enraged and sickened. This interview becomes pretty intense. I’m giving you this warning now, I use a little “colorful” language. And talk about violations to the federal RICO act. Talk Soon BigMike P.S If this kind of thing isn’t your cup-of-tea I totally understand. Unfortunately I had to make this video because the good ol’ boys are still up to their illegal acts. So as promised, I took it to the next level. (Yep he turned narc)

 

[Bud Bug]

I came across this and was staggered by it. Big Mike has made a new video on the Sunlight Supply/ Advanced Nutrients war. This time he has an embittered ex employee of Sunlight Supply narcing out his ex employer. Big Mike really looks like a grass in this piece - exposing criminal activity (he alleges) in Sunlight Supplies activities (for all intents and purposes trying to provide authorities with intel on a loose premise and hearsay). I feel this deserves its own thread but can't start new threads by the looks of it. Philosophically this is as corrupt and low as it get's. AN narcing out the competition on a public broadcast.

http://www.growersunderground.com/bellyofthebeast/

Sunlight Supply Wire Mail And Bank Fraud
13 Mar 2010

13 Mar, 2010 Bigger Yields Flowering System, Hobbyist Grower, Plant Advanced Nutrients, Sensi Bloom, pH-PPM Perfect

http://www.GrowersUnderground.com/BellyoftheBeast – Wire, mail, bank fraud and Sunlight Supply in this video. Hey I had to make another video because Craig Hargreaves is apparently hard of hearing. Obviously this video is about some very serious and heavy stuff. Not for the faint of heart. I’m going to be giving you a full and detailed interview because of this it’s 34 minutes in length. And frankly its not for everybody.

Here’s the deal, I got an interview with an ex-employee of Sunlight Supply and he goes into great depth about how the good ol’ boys do business. If your a hydroponics store owner you’re absolutely going to be enraged and sickened. This interview becomes pretty intense. I’m giving you this warning now, I use a little “colorful” language. And talk about violations to the federal RICO act. Talk Soon BigMike P.S If this kind of thing isn’t your cup-of-tea I totally understand. Unfortunately I had to make this video because the good ol’ boys are still up to their illegal acts. So as promised, I took it to the next level. (Yep he turned narc)

And this is why I wouldn't give them my money. If you need to dig out dirt on other companies in your industry with out any taking legal action first and then making you case public you're just a slime ball as a company owner and the company itself.

Hey Mike wanna make a trip to Canada? I suppose the answer is a big NO.

This is funny from a company that started out copying products from other companies specifically GH and Grotek.

The worst name rip off besides Vita Boost Plus (VitaMax Plus) Jump Start (Kick Start) Final Phase (Final Flush) that they have is Heavy Harvest http://www.advancednutrients.com/landing_pages/heavy_harvest_fall_landing.html and http://www.nutrilifeproducts.com/products/nutrients/inorganic/heavyHarvestMicro/

They might have paid Nutrilife something but I doubt it.

But this immature name calling/taking stabs at goes back years, just like their anti GH posters and radio ads.

 

[mullray]

I reason we are seeing the end to Advanced Nutrients. I've tried to remain open to this - on the one hand it is perhaps wrong that Sunlight is using strong arm tactics (given the histrionics now perhaps Sunlight are doing the right thing) but on the other hand Big Mike is showing his true form with the lowest tactics he could possibly use (that anyone could possibly use). To me this is narcing (grassing) out another company for commercial gain with little or no real evidence to support hearsay criminal allegations, and it makes me wonder how many other companies and individuals AN have narced out in their time. Pretty rich coming from a company that once said this:
“It’s a vicious industry and that’s one of the challenges we’re facing: defamation, business libel, people trying to narc our company – that’s what happened three years ago when we got raided." (Advanced Nutrients spokesman. Source: Vancouver Sun, Friday Jan 21, 2005. Ian Mulgrew) Yeah right - what goes around comes around I guess!

BTW: Can someone post a thread on this? It would be interesting to see how the community views what Big Mike has done. Perhaps have a vote. Is Big Mike a Grass (CI)? Or Has Big Mike gone too far? Let's hope Sunlight sues and puts an end to it.

 

[stasis]

It IS the Ratio.. And I did not have to adjust the pH of the feeding water. It was 6.1-2. Great for ProMix.

I have run all but Botanicare, even though I favor their SWEET for added magnesium w/ the GH 3 part instead o Flora Nectar (DR. Pepper)...

The Connoisseur/AN N-P-K is tailored toward ganja. My 3rd run with Connoisseur in ProMix HP was the best of all. Side by side w/GH 3-part in a ebb n grow system (CAP) - which came out OK. The Connoisseur-fed plants smoke smoother than any bud I have ever smoked. From my hand or not... Solid rock-like buds. These Purple Erkle nugs really came out nice, taken at 61 days 12/12. I used the light feeding schedule. That was just right. Based on that it was actually economical. Plain water every other time... As was mentioned above...

It's the end result that matters, Folks... Not words, or pissing-contests.... They all overprescribe their nutes, market a lot, and charge too much. There is a lot of money at stake...Isn't it so possible that there would be additional corruption, in the Cannabizness..?

Jeez whatta bunch of screamers on this thread... As usual.

 

[PetFlora]

I have not YET used AN, but I am on their email list. Their latest was the pH Manifesto IMO, it is chock full of valuable info. Three things jumped out at me

1. Reservoir Nutes Drift
2. Non Chelated nutes can quickly drift out of a useable window, and actually cause lock out.
3. Chelated Nutes work over a very wide pH range

I am not sure if it's just ANs additives that are chelated, but chelated nutes/additives sure seems to be the logical way to grow.

That alone is worth the price of admission to me.

 

[Kingzako]

I am using GH Nutrients (GMB) Diamond Necture and KoolBloom and my plants love it. I also have 3 plants in Flower Stage (2 Weeks) using AN Nutrients (GMB) and Bud Candy and the plants are doing great!!
My first crop I used Gold (2 Part Mix) and yeilded about 4oz. fron 2 plants (grown in 3x2 Box with 250w HPS and 85w Blue cfl)

I Think the GH Products are a little less expensive though!
I'll post later on the progress of my GH vs AN Test!

 

[Guest 18340]

It IS the Ratio.. And I did not have to adjust the pH of the feeding water. It was 6.1-2. Great for ProMix.

I have run all but Botanicare, even though I favor their SWEET for added magnesium w/ the GH 3 part instead o Flora Nectar (DR. Pepper)...

The Connoisseur/AN N-P-K is tailored toward ganja. My 3rd run with Connoisseur in ProMix HP was the best of all. Side by side w/GH 3-part in a ebb n grow system (CAP) - which came out OK. The Connoisseur-fed plants smoke smoother than any bud I have ever smoked. From my hand or not... Solid rock-like buds. These Purple Erkle nugs really came out nice, taken at 61 days 12/12. I used the light feeding schedule. That was just right. Based on that it was actually economical. Plain water every other time... As was mentioned above...

It's the end result that matters, Folks... Not words, or pissing-contests.... They all overprescribe their nutes, market a lot, and charge too much. There is a lot of money at stake...Isn't it so possible that there would be additional corruption, in the Cannabizness..?

Jeez whatta bunch of screamers on this thread... As usual.

Which "screamers" are you referring to? The ones that love AN or the ones that hate it? Because I see screaming coming from BOTH sides.

 

[mullray]

I have not YET used AN, but I am on their email list. Their latest was the pH Manifesto IMO, it is chock full of valuable info. Three things jumped out at me

1. Reservoir Nutes Drift
2. Non Chelated nutes can quickly drift out of a useable window, and actually cause lock out.
3. Chelated Nutes work over a very wide pH range

I am not sure if it's just ANs additives that are chelated, but chelated nutes/additives sure seems to be the logical way to grow.

That alone is worth the price of admission to me.

Geez I wish I was on their mailing list so I could get fed wads of shit by scam artists. AN use standard components just like every other manufacturer - chelates as micro elements (just like every other manufacturer). And no, while chelates may be a tad better for uptake and translocation (due to them being synthetic aminos also) pH has very little to do with it. Wake up - go to some academic sites and read sound research based information that isn't being fed to you by greedy sycophantic BS artists . You'll be a far better informed grower for it. Do you really think that anything that Advanced Nutrients says can be taken as credible when they have been busted so many times talking bollocks to growers? (on these forums in a lot of cases disguised as non industry peers)

"It's the end result that matters, Folks... " Hear you there stasis. Try House and Garden --- great stuff and kicks the teeth out of AN. Not a promotion for H and G --- there's plenty of great nutrients on the market without the hyperbole, BS and bells and whistles. Wonder if anyone has tested the Connoisseur for hormones??? My guess - IBA and perhaps they've thrown some amino acids in to boot. Yep - crop specific ---- years of testing ---- PhDs (that'd be 'Prefer Hard Drugs'), worked with the American government on secret trials, massive yield increases, THC increases (when compared to growing with water). Is anyone buying this?