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Question about watering before harvest?

guest2012y

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So water harvest the berries when it's dry to use the fan belt to choke em' and frost them buds for more potent nitrogen depletion...............wow this guys thread got hammered!!! Goodnight all...PEACE
 

NUG-JUG

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It's no joke.



You won't? Oh please, be our guest!

Go ahead & "flush" yourself while you're at it.



Don't count on it.

Economic Botany 27: 193 203. April-June 1973 Haney and Kutscheid

Read it and weep.

C'mon man can we get some more up-to-date research? Yea imo some stress on a plant can produce some resinous low-yielding results. Although cinching up a plants stem like the balls on a bull seems a little overkill.
 

Clackamas Coot

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C'mon man can we get some more up-to-date research? Yea imo some stress on a plant can produce some resinous low-yielding results. Although cinching up a plants stem like the balls on a bull seems a little overkill.
NUG-JUG

Actually that part of his theory has at least a 'tradition' - not necessarily 'science' but this is, after all, a cannabis grow site, eh?

"Girdling" has been used in Tanzania, Africa for several centuries. It was also applied in the late 1970's in Columbia to produce the (in)famous 'Columbian Gold' - certainly not the only method/process but it was employed.

HTH

CC
 

mad librettist

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here's the deal: if you reduce water in an organic grow enough to force protozoa into making cysts or whatever they are called, they won't be eating bacteria.

That mean less protozoa poo, and less of everything all around, and who knows what else. It's going to run leaner. And that's just one way water matters. Anyone who has problems getting water is not going to accomplish the same growth. So we do know withholding water will cause profound change. the questions start from there.
 

ixnay007

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On one hand, you guys are saying that most of the nutrients in a bio grow are stored in the bacteria, and they can't be washed away. What about the sugars/carbohydrates that the plant produces to increase the bacterial activity, can that be washed away?
 

mad librettist

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Well that's a logical question.

no, you can't rinse a rootball anyway I've tried. but I'm told the plant stops making or slows down exudates when the end is nigh. Why would it bother?

sounds like you like this topic, wanna join the teaming with microbes discussion? It's all covered, in nice simple language.
 

ixnay007

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We shouldn't anthromorphize plants, they don't like that :)

Say the plant "knows" it's at the end, it should also know it hasn't reproduced, wouldn't those things actually cause it to instead put any energy it has left into a last burst of flowering?
 

mad librettist

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that's what I'm hoping ixnay!

If you are putting all energy towards a last ditch effort, do you keep hedging your bets by giving precious sugar to microbes? Better to just use up the resources already in your body. Might even turn you yellow. (I'm not sure but I believe N is moved from leaf to bud. sorry no reference)

I'd quibble maybe that I'm not anthropomorphizing plants. It's human arrogance that assumes plants don't actually live an active lifestyle, just because they lack the means for locomotion. Some crazy shit goes down below and above. Some plants even subject other plants to predation (dodder I would say). Crazy shit.

But I do like to imagine these relationships in various non-scientific stories, because it keeps it all organized in my mind. I mean, ever watch ants fight? You can't quantify why what you see is a war for territory and not just ants doing automaton tasks. So science can't accept it as intention on the part of a colony. But I see a war, and I can feel the single-minded violence in that battle on an instinctual level. I have my failures, but overall I'm good with plants. It's not skill, it's the stories.

Really, come read the book. It's not expensive. And it's concise and easy to read.
 

ixnay007

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Teaming with microbes, or teeming with microbes :D

I'll look at it, where is it?
 

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