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Banjo's 250w NGB Style Hashberry Automated Drip Air-Pot Grow

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banjobrain

The plants seem over/under watered and droopy. Especially the first few pics of the larger plants.

Good job overall.

I hope the HB smokes well for you, I've heard good things.

I know! The plants are consistently dry. I've downright scorched them on several occasions. Under CFLs, the temps were not so much of a concern, as a matter of fact, I had to move a small space heater in the room. However, after moving to a MH lamp, the room temps have increased considerably!

Right now, my cab is running really warm at around 82-85 degrees. Not quite sure how I can get a handle on things...but after some poking around on the interwebs, I might try utilizing a Portable Air Conditioner. I'll need to get a handle on this quickly as I'll be leaving again next week.

Hmm...perhaps I just need to add additional venting so that the hot air from the MH lamp is NOT being re-circulated into the same room! I'm retarded. :YaRight: I'll have to play around this weekend and see if I can't get creative and vent it out the dryer vent outside.

Even if I can't make this progress, they may just have to try and survive a week again. The plants should improve shortly though as I will be repotting them this weekend into air-pots. More soil will keep them from drying out quite as fast.

Damn! Lots of work to do! I will need to potentially vent outside, repot my plants and perhaps try to set up my drip irrigation system!

Better my a checklist and get to Home DePOT or Lowe's tonight!

Thanks for the post! :wave: It made me think about a couple things!
 

DSDFreak

Member
Niice setup dude. I recently grew out a White Rhino x Hashberry.. It grew short and stubby with close internodes like those.. but in flower they stretched a bit.. REEEEAKED HAVOC but low and super potey yielder.. have fun and its gonnna be daaaunk.. Tagged
 
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banjobrain

Niice setup dude. I recently grew out a White Rhino x Hashberry.. It grew short and stubby with close internodes like those.. but in flower they stretched a bit.. REEEEAKED HAVOC but low and super potey yielder.. have fun and its gonnna be daaaunk.. Tagged

Thanks for the kind words. I feel like an idiot writing this and following with a question...but I'm not quite sure about what you mean by "REEEEAKED HAVOC but low and super potey yielder..." Do you mean I'll have some mad stoney plants with a small yield? Uh...:dunno:

At any rate...things are coming along quite nicely. To solve my temperature problem, I did some DIY work. Previously, my HID lamp was vented to the utility room as seen here:


The 265 Blower fan is mounted to the side of my utility room as seen here:


It seemed logical that instead of drawing passively through the utility room and outside of the cab...that I should draw air directly into the fan, with ducting attached to the flange attached to the intake. Below, you can see that instead of drawing air into the utility room passively via a reducer attached to the flange, I just routed the ducting straight through the flange.



Here is the ducting directly through the wall and attached to the fan.



In addition, the air was being vented outside the cab, but the cab is in a separate enclosed room. The hot air keeps recirculating, heating the room. No good! :nono:

So I decided to drill a 4" hole into the ceiling, through the floorboard of the attic and vent my hot air into the attic. For now, the attic should contain any smell I am getting - which is minimal.



I have supplies to build a nifty carbon scrubber, but I need to get some activated carbon, pantyhose and/or some crafty stuffing type stuff. Pics will certainly accompany the postings about all this.

Tomorrow night will be spent repotting my plants into 1 gal airpots. The pots are quite large. Bigger than what I remember a 1 gal pot being. They're not quite 2 gal size but perhaps 1.5. I'll be potting up these suckers in there and will begin practicing some LST techniques. I have a feeling a couple of my plants are males...but a few plants to practice on will be good. Either way, the airpots will be good for LST. All the holes will make great tie off points!

By this time next week I should be able to determine sex a little better. I hope so at least! :yay:

Either way, this has been and continues to be great fun. I am learning alot about what cannabis is capable of as a plant and am certainly enjoying myself throughout this process. Thanks for reading and stay tuned for more pics and cool stuff as the days progress!
 
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banjobrain

Yes...it's been a busy 24 hours! Thursday night, I spent the night rerouting the hot air from my cab up into the attic. Last night, the night was spent mixing soil and repotting the plants. Although I had previously mentioned that the Air-Pots were probably bigger than a true 1 gal pot, they are not. There is a bit of room from the "screen" on the bottom of the pot to the ground. For all intensive purposes, they are a true 1 gal pot. Whatever. Blah blah blah :yappy:

My soil mix consists of about 3 parts Miracle-Gro Organic Choice Potting Mix and 1 part Nature's Helper Mushroom Compost. Looking back after potting up, I realize that it probably would have been beneficial for me to throw some perlite in there and loosen the mix up a bit...but what's done is done. I reckon having a grow diary will be good to document the results of this giant cannabis experiment! :biggrin: Initially, my thoughts were to leave the soil mix a little "heavy" so I could water heavy Sunday night and then leave them until Friday night while traveling. However, after the past two experiences of having the plants dry down, almost to the point of no return, I decided it was in my best interests to finally utilize the Oasis Indoor Automatic Drip Watering System.

If I had planned better and thought this out a little bit more, I would have repotted with a Pro-Mix blend, as this is a fantastic product which is top notch for nursery stock. I believe it would work very well for cannabis cultivation as well. Because it's a lighter mix, it would have worked better with my drip system. Either way, my Miracle-Gro and Mushroom Compost will have to work - we'll see how the heavier mix works. It should be fine.

Below are some pictures of the repotted plants. Most plants were repotted in "regular fashion" - except for one plant, which was planted at a 35-40 degree angle. I figured I would try this method and "prep" the plant for some heavy LST training.







During the transplanting of the plants, I had one of rootballs of the plants collapsed. :yoinks: Oh well! Life happens. Not that this means instant death...probably a little stress. We'll see what happens.



Well that's enough of that! All the plants have now been repotted, except for the two WW x BB crosses. Time to set up the drip irrigation system! The Oasis drip system sits on top of the cab.



What I did was drill two holes in the top of the cab and run the two tubes that come out of the unit, into the cab.



After the tubes were run into the cab, the tubes were laid and the drip emitters installed. Below is a pic of the cab with the plants ready to keep on growing. A small fan has been attached to the 250w MH lamp to provide additional air circulation.



Miracle-Gro potting mix claims it "Contains both starting and slow-release fertilizer which feeds for up to 3 months." However, if you look at the fertilizer analysis, it is 0.10 - 0.05 - 0.05. Not anything I'm overly concerned about. The mushroom compost should add some additional nutrients as well. In addition, I have decided to continue feeding with a mild nute solution. Against the advice of the Oasis Self-Watering system, I have decided to fill the reservoir with a GH FloraNova mix. I drilled a hole in the lid and fed an airline into it and placed a 14" airstone into it. The airstone is weiged down by lead fishing weights so it stays at the bottom. Hopefully this will keep the nutrient solution mixed up enough so that it will consistently feed the plants.



I have been feeding a 1 tsp per gallon with my larger plants and 1/2 tsp per gallon for the two seedlings. I have filled the reservoir with a solution that is the equivalent of slightly more than 1 tsp per gallon of water. I think that this should be fine for both the larger plants and the smaller seedlings.

One thing that concerns me regarding the drip system is the lack of clear directions. It has different settings, for 10, 20, 30 and 40 days. However, the different settings actually represent the amount of water that will be emitted during those days. 10 days = more water (120cc per 20 plants) and 40 days = less water (30cc per 20 plants). Thank goodness the guide says that 60cc is the equivalent to "half a glass of water" - because I am a dumb american that doesn't know any better. I'll set it up at the lowest setting here in an hour or so and let it run until tomorrow night. We'll see how it goes. I should have done this earlier in the week for testing purposes - but...live and learn!

Hopefully the rate of 30cc per day will suffice for all plants. I may place 2 drip emitters in the larger plants, but I'll start with one all across the board and check on them tomorrow night.


Thanks!
 

Directrix

Member
Over the next couple of days, the heat and other conditions of which I am not aware of (or overly concerned about) caused some of the lower leaves to discolor and lose vigor. I kept them on for a while until they started to decline. Tonight, I gave most of the plants a trim (bottom set of leaves mostly) and below is the pile I came up with.



you should never be trimming these green leaves. you should never take them off the plant until they are completely yellow. because when they are still green like that, it means there's still chlorophyll in them making the plant food.

Leaves act a "storage space" for the plants food as well as a producer of food.
When the plant needs more nutrients than it has, it uses the nutrients in the leaves.

When the leaves are like that, it means the leaves are still making food for the plant AND the plant is still getting food from the leaves.

LET THE PLANT DO THE WORK. Never take GREEN leaves off a plant, even if they are a little bit yellow. When the leaves completely turn yellow that means the plant has sucked all the stored food out of them, but until then, the leaves ARE ALWAYS HELPING.



Plants have evolved for many many many years, they know what they are doing. Let them do the work.
 
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banjobrain

you should never be trimming these green leaves. you should never take them off the plant until they are completely yellow. because when they are still green like that, it means there's still chlorophyll in them making the plant food.

Leaves act a "storage space" for the plants food as well as a producer of food.
When the plant needs more nutrients than it has, it uses the nutrients in the leaves.

When the leaves are like that, it means the leaves are still making food for the plant AND the plant is still getting food from the leaves.

LET THE PLANT DO THE WORK. Never take GREEN leaves off a plant, even if they are a little bit yellow. When the leaves completely turn yellow that means the plant has sucked all the stored food out of them, but until then, the leaves ARE ALWAYS HELPING.



Plants have evolved for many many many years, they know what they are doing. Let them do the work.

Thanks for the heads up. I had some concerns about the trimming of these leaves. The leaves were on their way out, but I figured I'd get rid of them.

I think you are correct when you said LET THE PLANT DO THE WORK. I'll tie them up LST style and simply let them do their thing this week - removing only the depleted leaves when I return on Friday.

03/27/10 Edit - Here are some pics I finally got posted from the 14th of the irrigation and my initial tying up of the plants.

A pic of B5, perhaps overwatered and a bit underfed? I don't know. We'll see how she grows...


HD1, apparently slightly overfed and tied down. I still can't believe this plant was for all intensive purposes dead at one point. Currently one of the best performers!


H3, I think. I can't see my tag in the photo. One of the hashberry plants that had a SERIOUSLY stunted beginning. Currently, it's the BEST growing plant of the bunch! All it needed was a little TLC to get it back. Now, just a little LST to help it thrive!


B3, not doing well. This little bitch will soon get pulled to make way for the White Widow x Big Bud seedlings that are going to EXPLODE this week.


Another unknown bagseed plant. Tag not visible. This plant will also soon get pulled to make way for the other White Widow x Big Bud seedlings that are going to EXPLODE this week.


Hopefully the water will be sufficient. If anything, I think that they may be a little too wet due to my heavy soil mix...

Here is a shot of all the plants tied down and the irrigation tubes laid out. Take note of the two red Solo cups holding the WW x BB plants. They are so dainty now! Emitters have been installed.


And, finally - the final product for the week. This is a final shot of the babies going back into the cab. Hopefully the Oasis drip system will work as I intended. This is truly the first test run of the system. Again, please note the size of the plants in the two red Solo cups. These are the WW x BB plants. They are about to really take off this week.


We shall see! Time to start packing!
 
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DSDFreak

Member
So Fridays' past.. How did it work out? How the oasis treating you? I was looking into automatic watering systems and pegged it down to the Oasis or the blumat system. ALSO.. Where did you purchase those air-pots.. I want them soo badly but cant find a reseller. I wanna throw my 2 Cannadentials that are in 3gals into probably 10L Air-Pots.. then screen em =)
 
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banjobrain

Today is Saturday March 27. I have over a week's worth of updates right now. Luckily, I've been documenting things well with date stamped photographs. I'll try and provide explanations as best I can. Time to have some coffee and get to work!

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Upon arriving home late last Friday 03/19/10, I was very nervous to check on the progress of my plants. All plants have been on a 20-4 cycle with a 250w MH lamp.

This was the first week that I had used the Oasis Indoor Automatic Drip Watering System. Again, I am utilizing the Oasis system with a 1.5 tsp/gallon mixture of GH FloraNova Grow. Also, there is a 12" or 14" airstone that sits at the bottom of the Oasis reservoir to keep the nutrient mix from settling and weirding out my plants.

"Hopefully it worked, and the setting I chose was correct," were my thoughts! Upon opening the cab, this was my first view.


Hmm...better slide out the drawer and take a closer look. Let's see...looks good! The soil of the plants is slightly dry. In my opinion, better than being too wet.


Most excellent. Let's closer inspect one of the plants that was doing poorly and see what's up with it. It looks much better.


Now I can rest easier and go to bed. I'll mess with this stuff tomorrow. Goodnight!

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Ok! Up and at 'em. I'm feeling real good that my plants are healthy and that the Oasis system is working. I still need to get it dialed in, but we'll get there. Just remembered. I'm not going to be able to get to this until Sunday. Grr. I want to play with my plants. However, I believe the reason the reason the plants are doing as well as they are is because I am leaving them alone. Like someone once told me..."Let the plants do the work." This was good advice. :respect:

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So, Sunday rolls around. After putzing around for a while on Sunday, I decided to further inspect my plants, make any necessary tie downs and adjust the watering for the following week, as I will be gone until Thursday of this week. Below are some pictures of what I am seeing with my individual plants.

Below is a photo of H3. This is a great example of what I am trying to accomplish with many of my plants. I figured that I can grow them "around" the pot so the stem of the plant "circles" the top of the airpot or just inside of the airpot.


H1 grown the same way.


HD1 grown in the same fashion. Note the nute burn.


H3 is also experiencing some burn. Hmm. I'm seeing a pattern.


B2, again. Grown in the same fashion "around" the pot, but experiencing some signs of over feeding.


Well, the two WW x BB seedlings really took off last week! To facilitate this idea of growing "around the pot" - I took the approach below and planted both of them as follows. In the nursery industry with espalier trees, this is done all the time. Why not do it with cannabis?


And finally, one of the plants that was really struggling was B5. Check 'er out. Now she's doing very well and ready to go!


After a week of letting the plants grow and being watered by the Oasis Drip Irrigation system, I have come to a couple conclusions. With a system like this, it may be better to simply use water...keeping the plants moist during the week, water on Friday night and then feed on Saturday, or when necessary. Since I have 3 different strains in here and multiple phenotypes, it is difficult to dial in a holistic and systematic approach to fertigating all plants at the same time.

So, in regards to my irrigation/fertigation ideas...they are not working as anticipated. To compensate for the nute burn, I added a gallon of water to the reservoir to dilute the nutrient solution. I also tried to flush out the plants a little by watering heavily Sunday night. Hopefully this will have a positive impact. Only time will tell!

For the time being, I am on board with LST and training the plants to grow "around" the pot. This will allow for maximum use of "real estate" within the airpot, fully utilizing the ability to push the limits of the size of the pot. Because we're not worrying as much about the plants becoming root bound, we can stretch out the veg time significantly, increasing yields. Taking advantage of this "real estate" in and around the pot's edge allows me to move the plants out individually and work with them if need be (tying, watering, etc). For someone like me that is new to growing (first real grow) with multiple strains and phenos, this is very suitable.

Due to time constraints, I will only be able to stretch out my veg time for another week or so. I would really like to harvest by late May, as I have plans in early June. However, if I didn't have plans, I would push the veg time even a little more to maximize harvest. But, I would like to take advantage of the fruits of my labor during this time.

One final thing that I did was adjust my lighting schedule. To best mimic the natural cycle I decided that I would switch from 20-4 to 18-6. I thought that this might assist the plants into a more natural transition into flowering when they're ready.

Time to pack and get ready for another week on the road! I can't wait to check in again on Friday! (you'll just have to imagine me speaking in the past...)

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Last night was a pleasant surprise! Upon opening the cab door, this is what I saw! :jerkit:


Again, let's take a closer look from the top down and see what's going on...


Things are growing well. Overall, the addition of the water to the reservoir last week helped. I also dialed up the water to the "10 day" setting on the Oasis drip emitter. That means each plant gets 120cc of water a day, or about 4 fluid ounces. After an overall view, it was time to do some retying and resetting to prepare for the last week of growth before flipping the plants to 12-12.

Below is HD1, not the best picture, but you can see the color of the plant indicates the enhanced vigor of the plant. Laying off the nutrients helped.


Below is WW x BB 1. I can't believe how these two have taken off.


And a photo of its' sister, WW x BB 2. Look at 'em!


Below is a pic of the simplicity of LST due to the modified "sideways" planting of the plant at the edge of the pot. One tie across the pot to hold the plant down. Nice and easy. That's all it needs!


B5 has significantly improved. You can see the old, burned leaves. The new growth is slightly yellow, but nothing I am overly concerned about.


H1 has me a little concerned. This is the only plant that is reacting in a weird way. There is some serious leaf curl going on here. Wonder what's up?


Check out HD3! She's growing VERY well!


Initially tying some of the plants, I was very forceful with a few of them. Upon trying to re-tie some of the plants, I had to be careful. The plants are getting bigger and now are more difficult to bend. If you're not careful, then...


Oh, snap! :wallbash: The picture's blurry, sorry about that. I figured that I could try and fix it. What's to lose? The break occurred right below the node, and it looked as if I had previously damaged the area the last time I tied it. It was weak and the branch below the break was swollen. I made two fresh cuts above and below the damaged area, and then made a cardboard "cast." I placed the two pieces together, taped the cast together and wah-lah! We'll see if they heal.


The 18-6 light schedule has worked well. I'll keep them at this schedule for another week and them flip them to 12-12 utilizing a 250w HPS bulb. I also plan on decreasing my nute solution in the reservoir again by simply adding water. I will feed only on the weekends on a need basis according to what the plants tell me.

That's all I've got for now! Time to get busy and get some housework done! Thanks for reading! :tiphat:
 
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banjobrain

So Fridays' past.. How did it work out? How the oasis treating you? I was looking into automatic watering systems and pegged it down to the Oasis or the blumat system. ALSO.. Where did you purchase those air-pots.. I want them soo badly but cant find a reseller. I wanna throw my 2 Cannadentials that are in 3gals into probably 10L Air-Pots.. then screen em =)

Thanks for dropping by, DSD. :wave:

As you can see from my previous post, the Oasis Indoor Automatic Drip Watering System works well. I would suggest it if you are looking for a convenient way to manage your plants if you are unable to. I don't know anything about the blumat system, so I can't say which is preferable.

Air-Pots can be purchase here. A little pricey, but re-usable and certainly well worth it. The guy is good to do business with, as well.

Good luck!
 
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banjobrain

Due to time constraints and future vacation plans, I believe it would be in my best interests to flip the girls now. I would really prefer to veg for another week, as the plants are putting on some serious growth right now, but tonight I will be making the shift to a 250w HPS bulb and switching to a 12-12 lighting schedule.

I'm still trying to determine sex of some of my hashberry and bagseed plants. I believe they are all female plants, but I don't have the keen trained eye of an experienced cannabis grower (yet). Preflowers are certainly visible...I'm sure that within the week, they will start to fully show and I can take out any males that might be within the bunch.

Let the fun begin and be sure to check back for weekly updates!
 
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banjobrain

Here we grow...

Here we grow...

Due to time constraints and future vacation plans, I believe it would be in my best interests to flip the girls now. I would really prefer to veg for another week, as the plants are putting on some serious growth right now, but tonight I will be making the shift to a 250w HPS bulb and switching to a 12-12 lighting schedule.

I'm still trying to determine sex of some of my hashberry and bagseed plants. I believe they are all female plants, but I don't have the keen trained eye of an experienced cannabis grower (yet). Preflowers are certainly visible...I'm sure that within the week, they will start to fully show and I can take out any males that might be within the bunch.

Let the fun begin and be sure to check back for weekly updates!

It's on. I made the switch to HPS.

The soft, orange glow is delightful. :watchplant:

Probably will be working on the carbon scrubber next weekend.

I have a feeling it's going to get stinky in there soon...
 
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banjobrain

Help! Got a few questions!

Help! Got a few questions!

Ok...after one week of growth under 12/12, I was very surprised after seeing the plants Friday night. I temporarily lost my camera, so I only have photos from today to report.

Basically, the plants really exploded this week. Again.

I am experiencing that the plants are growing very well using this technique...I have them on automated drip systems, at the "10 day" setting, still with one emitter per plant. This seems to be good enough to get them through the week, and by the time the weekend rolls around, they are pretty dry.

Usually at this time, I re-tie the plants (LST) and soak them in tap water in the tub. Once the soil is moist and the plants are rehydrated, I follow with watering using a strong nute solution.

I am making a slow transition to GH FloraNova Bloom, and taking it easy on the nutes. I hit them hard early on and learned that the plants will "tell" me when they need to be fed. In addition, during the week, I am still using a light nute solution to maintain the plants during my travels.

Yesterday, I re-tied them, soaked them and re-installed my drip emitters. Couldn't wait to open up the cab today and I see that they are literally exploding in there.



I have 9, 1.5 gallon pots in my cab and my room is running out of space! Let's pull it out and see what exactly we're looking at, here...Be careful now, these plants are REAL bushy.



If I remember correctly, I am growing the following:
  • 4 - Hashberry (sex to be determined)
  • 2 - White Widow x Big Bud (feminized)
  • 3 - Bagseed (sex to be determined)

I thought I would be able to determine sex by now, but I'm not sure. All plants appear to be females. Could I be so lucky? I wasn't expecting it, if that was the case. However, this is all I can see of bud sites so far...


Not the best picture, I know...but until the flowers develop further, I won't be able to be positive of the sex.

My plan after germinating all plants was as follows:

  1. Grow 9 plants out
  2. Test different LST methods, see what plants were capable of handling
  3. Determine sex of plants, pull males
  4. Utilize remaining space for leftover female plants
  5. Grow to harvest!

Now, I'm running out of room and concerned that the lack of space may negatively impact my plants. Should I pull the bagseed plants and focus on the Hashberry and WW x BB?

Should I leave them?

Am I overthinking this?

Help!
 
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banjobrain

To provide more room for the Hashberry and White Widow x Big Bud plants, I have removed all plants grown from bagseed. They appeared to be sativa dominant plants and were deemed unsuitable to continue growing inside my cab. I would like to say that I will take them and plant them outside, but that's probably not going to happen.

I have decided to take a gamble and I took my best guess at sexing the remaining Hashberry plants. H3 is most certainly a male and has been removed from the lot. I am quite confident that H1 and HD1 are females. I am unsure about HD3 - and have decided to let "her" stick around with the others for another week or so.

So, that leaves me with 5 plants that have been re-tied and ready for another week unattended in the cab:
  • White Widow x Big Bud (WW x BB 1)
  • White Widow x Big Bud (WW x BB 2)
  • Hashberry (H1)
  • Hashberry (HD3)
  • Hashberry (HD1) - dig this hot LST photo...

Overall, the room is nice. Temps are a constant 78-80 degrees. The cabinet vents into the ceiling where the hot air from the cabinet is pushed through a carbon scrubber (wish I had pics of the construction - though I may take it apart and rebuild it post-grow in order to document the ease of what I created).

I decided to clean the reservoir to the Oasis Drip System today. It had some residue build up on the bottom of reservoir. Fresh water and a fresh, mild nute solution ought to keep those babies growing nicely all week. It will be tough to not mess with it while I'm home this week. The plants always seem to perform best when I leave them alone for 4-5 days. So, that's that!

More to come next weekend...Thanks for checking in! :tiphat:
 
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banjobrain

TxMatt and mellow yellow -thanks for dropping by! If it wasn't for you guys, it would be real lonely here! :tumbleweed:

At any rate, I just wanted to check in and give whoever is reading this a bit of an update and more importantly - keep tabs on myself for the next "grow-round." Although I don't have much time to write, here's a quick update. Last week I was unsure about a plant, HD3...was it a female or was it a male??? My suspicions were correct, HD3 was a male and has been pulled from the bunch. That's ok, though...because it had a branch that was previously busted off during some intense LST (not so low stress, I suppose!)

So this leaves us with four plants now! Ultimately the best performers are the White Widow x Big Bud plants. Both 1 and 2 are doing quite well, followed by one of the Hashberry plants (HD1). The other Hashberry (H1) is doing well, but probably not going to perform as well as the others. There is one plant that I am very pleased with regarding it's training and how it's growing, that is the White Widow x Big Bud #1 (WW x BB 1). Check it out...

White Widow x Big Bud #1 - top view

White Widow x Big Bud #1 - side view (LST detail)

White Widow x Big Bud #1 - bud shot

I don't have any pics of WW x BB 2, but it is doing just as well. I was so caught up in how good #1 looked, that I guess I focused all my attention on it!

The Hashberry plants are growing well, also...especially HD1. I am still amazed that HD1 was a plant that was on the verge of death, yet managed to come back to life and be one of the healthiest and most beautiful plants I have.

HD1 from the top

HD1 from the side...it's getting pretty thick in there!

Finally, we've got the "runt of the litter," which would be H1. She's doing ok, I guess...let's check her out.

H1 - a little sparse inside, but...

She's coming around and should produce nicely.

So far, I've realized a few things. I think that continuing to perform some LST into flowering may have done more harm than good, but I don't know. That may be part of the reason the WW x BB plants seem to be performing better...I started them up a few weeks later than the Hashberry. They didn't have quite as long to veg.

At this point, 4 plants seem to fill up the cab quite nicely. However, with a few more weeks of veg time, I'm quite sure that I could fill it up nicely with 2 plants growing in 2 gal Air-Pots and a SCROG. Additional vegetative time and Air-Pots might be real nice. To continue the ease of transporting plants and moving them around...I might make 2 individual screens and somehow attach them to the Air-Pots. I like taking the plants out and letting them soak in the bathtub. I think they like it.

Although the Oasis drip system is working for now, I have performed some additional research and with the next grow, I may use Tropf-Blumäts for my plants. I have read some wonderful things about these emitters, but will write more about these later.

For now, I am just going to keep hooking up my emitters and let them grow for the week. By Friday, they are approaching dry. I will continue unhooking them and letting them soak heavily when I'm home on the weekend. Other than that, I am afraid to mess around with my plants any further.

For the time being, I'll just sit back and...:watchplant:
 

Work2much

Member
Are you impressed yet with the FNB. Great stuff for a one bottle KISS nute huh? Shaking the heck out of it before mixing is the only real downside. I'm using the grow right now for the first time @700+ PPM in Bio-bizz coco and there growing 1/2" per day under T5's.
 
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banjobrain

Are you impressed yet with the FNB. Great stuff for a one bottle KISS nute huh? Shaking the heck out of it before mixing is the only real downside. I'm using the grow right now for the first time @700+ PPM in Bio-bizz coco and there growing 1/2" per day under T5's.

So far, so good! I don't know what ppm or whatever I'm using, though. I let the plants tell me when the need to be fed - as I've fully experienced nute burn earlier on during vegetative growth. Overall, I'm satisfied with FloraNova products.

However, in my hunger for knowledge and improvement, I will probably look into using Dyna-Gro in the future. But since I'm growing on a small scale, I'll continue to use FloraNova until it's gone.

Thanks for dropping by! :wave:
 

Work2much

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Lol. This whole Dyna-Grow thing is funny. A few months ago I decided I was going to try to run two ferts during bloom, one for each watering for my twice daily waterings for a test. I picked DG-B becuase of the complete profile[micronutrients] and concentration. Then last week someone makes that post about Dyna and it's all the rage right now but no one is actually using it.

My only problem with Dyna is the lower then usual Ca/Mg levels of 2% + 0.5%. It wasn't made with MJ in mind as some brands are.

FNB has 4% + 1.5%

It would be wise to have some Cal/Mag on hand, but then that kind of defeats the purpose of having a one bottle nute.
 
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