Can swagg ever be a good strain that just has some seeds in it.

[basspirate]

I think for a lot of people it has more to do with free weed than genetics. Granted, this is ICmag and people in "the know" seem to be here more than elsewhere, but I think for a beginner grower (which is the type of person asking this sort of question) that growing bagseed should almost be mandatory. I see the risk in wasting some time and effort on risky, unknown seeds, but I see more risk in fucking up a fifty dollar pack of seeds on a first/early grow.

I personally amassed a collection of a couple hundred seeds from various shwaggy/mids that I've bought over the past couple years and am just poppin' them by the dozen and seeing who stays and who goes.

Also, if you look around on here, I have seen a lot of grows from bagseed that have turned out killer-diller.

IMO, at the end, even if you go through 20-30 seedlings, bagseed oughtta turn up something good just by the numbers, no?

Of course

 

[Hazelnuts]

OP, if those pics are what you call shwag, consider yourself lucky. That stuff looks incredibly frosty, just a bit compressed and if the high is good, you're most likely gonna get some great stuff if you grow the seeds out. I say go for it.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

I think for a lot of people it has more to do with free weed than genetics. Granted, this is ICmag and people in "the know" seem to be here more than elsewhere, but I think for a beginner grower (which is the type of person asking this sort of question) that growing bagseed should almost be mandatory. I see the risk in wasting some time and effort on risky, unknown seeds, but I see more risk in fucking up a fifty dollar pack of seeds on a first/early grow. I HAVE been growing for the last 13 years. but I am a very very cheap grower so I cant buy seeds off the internet. So I only collect seeds from the dankest swagg buds I get.

I personally amassed a collection of a couple hundred seeds from various shwaggy/mids that I've bought over the past couple years and am just poppin' them by the dozen and seeing who stays and who goes. yah me too.

Also, if you look around on here, I have seen a lot of grows from bagseed that have turned out killer-diller. yah I have seen some o thouse grows.

IMO, at the end, even if you go through 20-30 seedlings, bagseed oughtta turn up something good just by the numbers, no? yess I should and have done that. now I have a reveged plant I just moved to the bloombox to reflower.

Of course

OP, if those pics are what you call shwag, consider yourself lucky. That stuff looks incredibly frosty, just a bit compressed and if the high is good, you're most likely gonna get some great stuff if you grow the seeds out. I say go for it.

yah this is great midgrade buds.
and oooo yah I am fo sure gunna save them for a later use.


maybe if I ever get to go to amsterdam then Ill buy a some very very very very dank seeds to grow.
But untill then I will have to grow out my bagseeds and look for a dank gem.

 

[basspirate]

hey cheese, sorry if i offended. eeps. i read that thread so early today on like no sleep and didn't even realize you were the original poster. i have seen some of your grows before, i was watching the bagseed in the woods thread over the summer i remember.

surely though, you must have had some good results from bagseeds over the past thirteen years. i guess i didn't think about the specific point of your question, which i think was regarding whether or not bagseed is likely to be a specific strain that's just not been given much care. Also, I certainly feel ya, I am growing on a shoestring and certainly wish I could afford some name brand genetics, but cheap ain't bad when it's regarding some homegrown.

 

[Big D]

Thats swag? I looks good to me! If you have the space and the desire then I would grow it. You can find the KILLER in good bagseeds. Anyone that says you can't ... well... they would be wrong.

 

[xmobotx]

hey cheese!

those are some dank nugs

i bet they grow to be some nice plants

bagssed was all i ever even knew back in th 80's & 90's

strains seemed like something cheech and chong made up for their movies back then

 

[DocLeaf]

Just place them into a moist cup of soil,, under a light source,, water occasionally,, and see what happens

All the best

 

[Mountain_Monkey]

Soma's diesel was originally bagseed then he crossed that with a Hawaian (or something else, there are different stories) and I see them selling for $200 a pack. My point is, you can find some killer plants growing bagseed. Let's not forget Somablaze's Blackberry clone... bagseed again...

 

[Dirt_McMaster]

- I agree however that a lot of the time shit, seeded weed can be the result of amateur commercial growers screwing up their grows, not just shitty genetics...

Mountain_Monkey -
I share in your logic regarding shitty genetics or just shitty grow.
Shitty genetics probably wont mature properly. Hermies? Personally I think a lot(most) of them are caused by environmental issues!
Thanks for listening- Dirt

 

[WelderDan]

I'm germing a batch of bag seed along with some LUI x Blue moonshine, and some BM F2's. Why? Because there is nothing wrong with the weed. It's nice quality mids with a good taste, good stone and it'll at least be as good (and probably much better) than the weed it came from.

I've grown out real schwag. You know, mexi-brick loaded with seed. I ended up with a 6 foot plus sativa monster. She wasn't the strongest, but it was 5 X the potency of the brick and was better than the mids going around at the time.

I've thrown in some bag seed after a poor germ rate with seed bank seeds, and the bag seed turned out sticky and a beautiful golden color with red hairs. Very sweet skunk like and tasty. NOBODY guessed it was from bag seed. Everyone assumed I ran a batch of Skunk.

I've grown out bag seed indoors and out for years. I see no reason not to. Hell, all the classic hybrid strains started out as bag seed. The famous Chem/chemdog was bag seed.

 

[corradogang*]

doesnt look too bad but then it doesnt look special

worth keeping but grow it outdoors first i wouldnt take the risk with other plants in a bud grow... higher chance of the seed being hermi but you may find some fem/males in there, only use for breeding if every seed is either ALL male of fem steer away from any strain with hermis seed specially bag/bushseed from OZ + s/e asia..

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Because it does not look like a indica or indica hyrid, that weed is almost white with resin, explain to me why it looks shit?

 

[_Haste_]

looks like classic brick weed to me.. which means its most likely some weed grown really poorly outdoors in mexico.. you might find some great mexican sativa in there.. super trippy stuff.. also has the potential to be complete crap though.. definetely wont yield a lot thats for sure.

 

[DRorganic]

I started off on bag seed and it is still to this day the most electric up high i have grown . all in the head .it had to be some Mexican sativa .it smelled and tasted like pure pin sol .we did huffs of the bag of weed and got head rushes from hell .we where up all night that night.

but one or two things happened .1 a stray male pop its load before they could get it.
.2 it was turning Hermie at the end of flower . in that case ditch it . if you have valuable genetics.
in case number 1 happened you could end up with a good cross like mod beans called mange a trios . and if number 2 happened you will end up with a gen pool of unstable Hermie genetics.

 

[_Dude]

I have no idea what strains commercial outdoor growers are using. But here's my THEORY. As time goes by the strains used by outdoor commercial growers, even the ones growing Mexican brick, will tend to replace what they were using with the best strains available. Why? It's very easy to run a small op with quality strain seeds, breed them, and use the tons of seeds that result for your outdoor crop. Over time these guys will share seeds and before you know it all the crappy strains aren't being cultivated any more.

Using a good strain has got to be one of the easiest ways for guys growing brick to improve the quality of their product. Long story short I bet random bag seed has a damn good shot at being a really good strain. I know the one time I grew out bag seed it was a good strain. Matter of fact I think the unknown strain I have now is the last surviving clone from that bag, and its holding its own vs. Nebula.

 

[#1cheesebuds]

Ok so here is some of the bagseeds I am growing now.
the 3ed set of pix r one of the 15 bagseed from the bud I showed on the first page. the buds smell like a sweet candy like fule.


first is a group shot.

2ed is the candy indica smellen plant.

next is the fule smelling one.

and next is the skunky smellen sativa.

 

[SoloGro57]

Mommma Always Said...

Mommma Always Said...

...Bagseed is like a box of chocolates, You never know what you're gonna get.

 

[_Haste_]

I have no idea what strains commercial outdoor growers are using. But here's my THEORY. As time goes by the strains used by outdoor commercial growers, even the ones growing Mexican brick, will tend to replace what they were using with the best strains available. Why? It's very easy to run a small op with quality strain seeds, breed them, and use the tons of seeds that result for your outdoor crop. Over time these guys will share seeds and before you know it all the crappy strains aren't being cultivated any more.

Using a good strain has got to be one of the easiest ways for guys growing brick to improve the quality of their product. Long story short I bet random bag seed has a damn good shot at being a really good strain. I know the one time I grew out bag seed it was a good strain. Matter of fact I think the unknown strain I have now is the last surviving clone from that bag, and its holding its own vs. Nebula.

Most of the weed coming into America from mexico is grown in extremely rural areas where there is no law enforcement to police the grows.. the growers are just simple farmers.. not the cartel.. but this is why the quality of the weed is so shitty.. other than it being a low yielding sativa strain, the way the weed is grown is in fields where no growing techniques are utilized to improve the bud or yield.. they dont even pull the male plants, hence all the seeds in shwag

 

[#1cheesebuds]

well they smell and look damm great to me. so I am for sure dam happy dude.

 

[j6p]

Looking good! From bud seed on page 1 ...

 

[Noobian]

Only drawback to bagseed is hermi's, they will do that on you a lot, but other than that they can grow into good plants if you take care of them. Might not be the most mind blowing smoke ever but it will do the job!