Used myco cakes

[magiccannabus]

Can I use psilocybe cubensis cakes that are basically spent and put them into my soil bin to stew with the rest of it? Is there anything about that mushroom species that will be negative in my cannabis soil? The cakes are chunk coir, aged horse manure(hand picked from a local field), vermiculite, and I'm not sure what else, that might be it. Anyway they're extremely natural compost. I don't want to sterilize this if I don't have to.

 

[NAD]

Spent casing are great! I dry them completely and break up very fine and mix with my soil.

 

[MrFista]

You will have no problems with using this in your soil mix. If it's been hit by trich - well, it's your call depending on if you are using mycos or increments of P to boost flower.

I kind of do both. Mycos, plus tiny bits of guano or EJ bloom as foodstock in teas.

 

[edux710]

i was just wondering do you have to worry about them recolonizing? i have a friend who doesn't know what to do with their cakes (BRF -organic-, vermiculite -aspestos free-, and water mix)???

 

[tokinafaty420]

I thought if you gave the cakes more food they continue to colonize... I'm not claiming to have much experience with shrooms, but I had a couple of jars a few years back I tried. I thought the only reason it stopped fruiting was b/c the nutrients were spent.

 

[quadracer]

That would be awesome to get a flush of mushrooms from mixing it in to a soil mix, but unlikely. Mushrooms and marijuana use different nutrients. NPK does not work for mushrooms, and adding high levels of N and P will inhibit mycelial growth, likely preventing any actual fruits.

A better solution would be to add the cakes as a mulch on top. The mycelium will stay constantly watered, and wont be affected by the nutrients that should be present in the soil.

 

[OrganicFarmer]

i think it would continue to colonize unless sterilized. just like a casing.

 

[OrganicFarmer]

were these cakes sterilized in the beginning?

 

[OrganicFarmer]

 

[OrganicFarmer]

 

[quadracer]

People have buried their spent cakes in houseplants that have fruited before, don't expect amazing flushes. It definitely doesn't hurt the plant and is actually pretty beneficial.

 

[magiccannabus]

Just glad to hear it doesn't kill the plants. The cakes were pasteurized before use. 180 degrees in an oven for 90 minutes, handled in sterility and only exposed to the world when they were spent and given to me in a shopping bag. Otherwise they should be clean. The bag looked pretty clean. Not really important if I get fruits from them, just don't want harm to my cannabis.

 

[big ballin 88]

i have a corner that was specificlly for spent coco cakes to grow outdoors. its nice to have outdoor mushrooms produce, its not the same yield as indoors but its still good. The great thing about being outdoors is you do pick up other fungi, bacteria and micros. For mushrooms cultivation its unwanted, however trich and bacillus do well for us in gardening. Keep mixing that sutff in and you'll end up with extremely nice, active mix for gardening. Its been a year since growing and i stil pull of P. Cubes outdoors, moist and dark is the key.

 

[OrganicFarmer]

good to know

 

[herbaholic]

If you broke the cake up it's even more unlikely to fruit after mixing it in your soil. If on the other hand you buried cakes just under the surface I'd expect a fruit or two.

If you had a spent colonized monotub cake that was horse poo based then I'd say that would be great for your soil if it was crumpled up as finely as possible.

S

 

[teddybud]

Nice info here

 

[Nicoli]

I wouldn't bother indoors. But they would be great for an outdoor compost pile, plus you might get some fruits outdoors..

 

[big ballin 88]

Its not really worth it for hopes of gaining much more mushrooms I've buried over 10pounds of spent cakes and never really gained any mushies maybe 1.5g dry Mushrooms compost is good stuff though, i just buried some philosphers stones that went bad ad plan to pour my used grain in the pile. Good luck stay green.

 

[FreshlyShaven]

In a similar vein, would there be any advantage in using spent rice flour and vermiculite cakes in a soil mix? How exactly would it improve the soil? What about spent coco coir used as a substrate?

 

[big ballin 88]

In a similar vein, would there be any advantage in using spent rice flour and vermiculite cakes in a soil mix? How exactly would it improve the soil? What about spent coco coir used as a substrate?

I don't know about rice flour. Verm will help aid in water retainbility and against soil compaction. Its not bad stuff to add and is a typcial soil ammendemnet. Rice flour may compost down but i don't of any benefits it may have. Mushrooms and plants have different nutrional needs and i don't know what rice flour could do for the plants.