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Bumble Buddy

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I think I finally figured out what was causing yellowing and "rust" spots on the fan leaves of my plants since I started using coco coir: I found a water report for my municipality, the TDS is around 400 mg/L and the CaCO3 (calcium carbonate) is around 200 mg/L! IOW hard as hell. I think that the CaCO3 has been precipitating out of the solution and probably fugging with the Mg and P as well, additionally I think the media pH has been rising as a result, causing further precipitation and locking up the cation exchange capacity of the coco.

I've been using GH Hardwater Micro and Bloom in a proportion of 2/3 with ~1g MgSO4 (epsom) per gallon. The Hardwater Micro bottle states that it is intended for use with water that has greater than 70 ppm CaCO3, so my water had way more than that at ~200 ppm. I recently got a reverse osmosis unit and have started using the RO instead of tap; I'm thinking that I should probably run the nute solution at ~5.5 pH for a while to dissolve the scale buildup from the coco.. I'm thinkin' that after things get back into equilibrium that I'll pH my nutes by adding a small amount of tap to the RO. only problem is my damn pH meter is giving me trouble, even after replacing the probe :bashhead: gonna have to wing it for a while... whee. I'm excited though cause this has bedeviled me for a while and I think I've finally got the solution.

Anyone else using coco with tap water 'round these parts had similar issues?
 

Bruja64

Member
Hi SG's!
I'm still around(in case anybody is interested).
Have a really nice grow going right now and will post pics if anyone shows interest.
Currently have Lifesaver and Angel Dust going.
 

Bumble Buddy

Active member
Hey Bruja64 post 'em up! :wave: I've got a few tiny Bogglegums flowering beneath the trees, far from the light and in the shade but smell like candy, fruity candy candy candy :prettyplease: just made some hash oil from it :biggrin: sticky candy hehe.:dance013:

Day 28 flower:
 

Bruja64

Member
Will do this weekend. Remember, I don't take the best pics, but will try. These girls have been in flower only 3 weeks and the buds are amazing.
Good to see everybody here.
Bumble, those are some pretty pics. =0)
 
LAS VEGAS 8 NEWS NOW OUSTS MARIJUANA FARMERS

LAS VEGAS 8 NEWS NOW OUSTS MARIJUANA FARMERS

so the local news channels i team is doing this bit about the huge rise in pot farms in our city and how much they're bad and blah blah blah and also go as far as this is what neighbors to look for and it's a grow for sure i think what a totally wreckless thing to do to legal medical patients let there neighbors know whos growing pot or not and what to look for sounds like a good way to get caught up in one of these murders they speak of or home invasion robberies idiots i happen to be one of them patients so i really see why for 10 years nothing has ever changed with our med law here its because the cops gotcha where they want ya but just google 8 news now las vegas and search for pothouse murders for first video clip which aired friday at 5 oclock then there was one at 11 o clock yesterday and again at 5 and 11 today not very kool very wreckless on the medias part and i've always thought cbs to be a liberal run station but i guess not here in nevada and las vegas' finest might as well thank them as well for helping the media get this bullshit out there i'd like to see what they intend to do to make this a biased deal anyways deffinatelly worth watching and reading up on i hope they just allow you to be a caregiver and a patient at the same time makes it a real pain in the ass that and not more than 2 cards at each house 3 budding plants per patient and 1 ounce dried these people have no idea about marijuana obviouslly if your getting 1 ounce outta 3 you should just quit now theres a few things that can be changed here to make this much more reasonable and give the patient or his or her caretaker produce them enough high quality meds i'd place a url but it seems everytime i do icmag blocks it out and ppl cant get to it so google 8 news now las vegas then pothouse murders is the first video and your welcome :)
 

Bruja64

Member
Ok Boys & Girls~
Here are my photos of AD and LS. Sorry the pics aren't better, but I tried. :biggrin:

Also, I only got one good shot of the LS for now, but will take more before harvesting(which should be around March 11).

PoisonD~ Thanks again doll. :witch:

LifeSaver:



AngelDust:





p.s. if you click on them they should be much clearer(and larger).
 
uh bruja64 ur pics didnt come through and march 11 huh looks like we'll be harvesting about the same times :) im a couple days longer think the 14th somewheres in there
 

socbutter

Member
Just started to read this thread cuz my wife and I are planning to move to Colorado.

Billy, thanks for sharing!

Gonna hang out here and learn how you guys grow in the Southwest with the extreme weather.:tumbleweed:
 

Grizz

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looking nice as usall Bru,

Hey billy I saw that shit on tv, kidknapping, murder, all connected to local pot growers, shit u would think it was 1950 again. seems like every step we take forward the goverment and the media try and take us 4 steps backwards
 
looking nice as usall Bru,

Hey billy I saw that shit on tv, kidknapping, murder, all connected to local pot growers, shit u would think it was 1950 again. seems like every step we take forward the goverment and the media try and take us 4 steps backwards

thats what i thought as well not only that but now every tom dick n harry knows what to look for when they could be informing on a med patient i doubt once the cops got your address and ran it that they'd show up and if they did they're not coming into my house without a search warrant but this kinda media doesnt worry me about the cops it worries more about the safety of patients and the safety of there meds they had a list on there web page of what to look for and if you see any of this call the cops immediatelly or this is also ammunition for the criminals to now posses the knowledge to randomly pick out what you might think to be pot houses and rob them this is las vegas and id be willing to bet if you got robbed by home invasion the robbers more than likely are going to kill you it's all good lock n loaded around here that and i got a security system but still not a position i wanted to be in at all i got a 2 year old but thanx channel 8 i can see what your stance is on marijuana medical or not to wrecklessly endanger patients with these stories until george knapp done this story i liked the guy but to launch an outright wreckless attack like this just sickens me if this were a state that it's med patients stood up and fought like they do in california and oregon
 

Grizz

Active member
Veteran
it would be nice to get some things changed or simply done as the med laws are now written, like dispenserys, it says we are supposed o have them in the law but trying to get them to uphold the written law is like pulling teeth, no one will listen to you.
 

Bruja64

Member
Hi Josey! Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Billy---did the pics ever show up on your computer? If not just got to my photo album.
 

Buttman

New member
guys i need some info and your help would be sincerely appreciated.

i just moved to the high desert and am considering growing outside this year. should i give it a run, or should i just man up and build my garage into a room for an inside show? i dont have much time left to get ready so as much help you can give me i could really use it. i figure if its voted against growing outside i will hurry up and throw the room up and sneak a grow in before summer.

btw i do have 3 successful grows inside, never done outside. have 2 1000 watt lights that i can put on the mover. just not sure i have enough power available here though. will have to bring in an electrician if i decided to go inside.

many thanks for your time.
 
Hi Josey! Thanks for the words of encouragement.
Billy---did the pics ever show up on your computer? If not just got to my photo album.

na weird though but ya ill just peep ur albums and ya keep up the good work anyone growing is an improvement over the way things are now :)
ya i just went and checked it out not bad it appears that neither was a very good yield or one to write home to mom about but looks like some good smoke im not sure about the lineage on those strains but if it smokes it's smoke :)
 
guys i need some info and your help would be sincerely appreciated.

i just moved to the high desert and am considering growing outside this year. should i give it a run, or should i just man up and build my garage into a room for an inside show? i dont have much time left to get ready so as much help you can give me i could really use it. i figure if its voted against growing outside i will hurry up and throw the room up and sneak a grow in before summer.

btw i do have 3 successful grows inside, never done outside. have 2 1000 watt lights that i can put on the mover. just not sure i have enough power available here though. will have to bring in an electrician if i decided to go inside.many thanks for your time.
first and foremost do not bring in an electrician from a company to do your electrical its really not hard stuff at all to power up a room i simply pop out the tabs on open slots for a breaker and i throw in however many amp 240 breaker i need depending on how many lights im running 30 for 3, 10 amps a light,
secondly if you live in las vegas area i wouldnt even try an outdoor grow here esspecially during the summer time and if your going to set the garage up why would you only have a couple months to grow instal an ac unit if you own the house instal it through one of your outer walls if not instal it through one of the walls you build in your garage during summer time your going to have to keep your garage cracked and probablly a fan or 2 up by the door blowing the hot air out that and your going to need a catch for the water thats going to drip from your ac unit and for 2 lights id suggest at least a 10k btu ac unit i run 2 atm going to be 3 and i run a 12k btu ac unit and with the two lights i never get over 68 in my room with lights on and then down into the mid 50's lights off perfect :) im going to be adding a third light another 1000watt HPS atm i got one HPS and then one switchable with a MH bulb because i dont have the money for another HPS bulb waiting on taxes
i wouldnt do outdoor down here period ive seen the finished product from 3 outdoor grows done done here in the vegas area and really dissatisfied i didnt even smoke any of it it looked that bad had no trichs but one had some nice big buds all three strains were either purple kush or a PK cross the PK had the biggest buds
but still nothing id do from what ive read and what not to run outdoor down here successfully you need shade screen for the afternoons it still allows light to pass through just not as intense that and your watering non stop i'd just kick off the indoor show maybe you can meet up with someone in your area that would be willing to help ya hook up your power but dont waste your money on an electrician unless hes a real close friend those guys arent dumb typically and if you found someone to hook it up id be worried he come back n rob me but to each his own good luck
 

Buttman

New member
Billy, thank you for chiming in.

firstly i am in the high desert of cali. i am completely legal and have been a MMJ patient for 7 years.

i am renting a place, so to think of building up a room and possibly having to leave it when i move really gets my goat. thats why i wanted to try and give the outside a go.

the electrician is a close friend, he built my other room when i owned my house. however i lost my house due to all the financial crap going on, so thats why renting now.

i was using portable AC's on the last room. but it dumps some of the air outside so i was burning through the CO2 pretty quick. i think if i go inside this time i will go with a window AC like you said.

more thoughts would be appreciated.


edit to add: btw why i said about having time for one grow before summer. i have decided not to grow during the summer due to the extremely high electric bill. if i am able to get a grow off before summer i should have enough medicine to last me till it cools off again.
 
gotcha i would say go for the outdoor then if your not in the desert desert like it is here and points further south or better yet run an indoor and an outdoor :) hell i dunno i rent as well year lease and im sure the landlord will gladly renew at the end of it i chopped one of my bedrooms in about half to make a 10 x 6 x 8 room i got a window ac unit and mines sticking out the window i boarded off the window with a piece of plywood i painted white on both sides as to try not to draw attention as to the fact that it's boarded off so far so good and ya thats great to have a close friend like that unfortunatlly for me i am that friend so i gotta build all my own shit :) imma union carpenter n all not a sparky but i can run power to either a sub panel or my intermatic timer i've had both kinds of setups at our other house i built a very small room 4 x 6 x 7 and for some reason everything i put in it hermd we have since moved to a much nicer home and a much nicer neighborhood and i could tell the differences in how my plants grew in my old garden as to how thwy do now much better no herms no nanners nothing of the sort boarding off the window like that and then caulking all the way around the ply wood to block the very small rays of light that got through the crack beings the walls textured the plywood doesnt sit flush on it so have to caulk it to make it totally dark sorry to hear you lost your house tough breaks all over i lost my job for almost 2 years now lol oh well i took my last pay checks and invested them into my medicine and ya all my bills are current :) i run co2 as well and i dont have one of them thousand dollar sniffer and regulator or whatever i just got a cheap timer plugged in set to go off 15 minutes every hour on the top of the hour when my lights are on and i havent noticed any leakage issues typically 1 tank would do my smaller garden this new ones going to take 2 i believe but meh 17 bucks each 20 pound cylinder
 

bluepeace

Member
No cannavacation in vegas. I'm going camping instead. I plan on scouting for my first outdoor. I will be somewhere between anthem and sedona off the I-17. Never met anybody on here inperson but no time like the present, anybody want to camp or catch a beer hit me up.
 

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