Advance Nutrients is an amazing brand

[MarquisBlack]

So it turns out Sensi Bloom A and B costs around the same for both parts as the equivalent amount of FloraNova Bloom.

Mixes clear, has worked well in veg over the past week or so... Bout to start flowering... Can't believe I'm using AN...

 

[skunktoker]

Sensi A&B are awesome nutes you will love the results...........ST

 

[humboldtlocal]

Here is a great little history lesson on AN.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=9114

 

[HydroIndustry]

"He (Robert Higgins, President AN) remains outraged that police invaded his home and office. They seized his computer, his top-of-the-line stereo components, his glass E.J. Pitman whale sculpture, a collection of nature prints by Carl Brendors and Robert Bateman, his boat, his Land Rover, his dirt bike, his Tag Heuer, his sweetheart's $8,000 Movado, jewelry, his Ultraline Professional Gas Barbecue . . . his dining room suite and his wine cellar (8,000 bottles).

"My Brietling!" he said holding out his wrist, the watch back in place.

"You know, those bastards even took my weights!""

If Rob is just one of 3 owners, perhaps their materialistic desires are what help fuel their retail prices.

 

[toohighmf]

oh, if you guys only knew the shit I hear and wont divulge..
You know whats amazing about Advanced Nutrients? the people that use it, all do so much better than us who either used to use it and realized it didn't do ANY difference for the most part at 3x the price. its the not bow, or the arrow.. it's the indian. those of you patting yourself's for buying into the BS that its the nutes, when it's definitely you, and your downright growing skills. I can show pics of plants grown in mricle grow soil with some peter's 20-20-20 that grow just as well with it, as they do with a $2000 regiment.
It's cool though, I fell into the hype too. Even turned some of my heroes on to the stuff. If you know how to grow, understand plant nutrition, then AN will work, but why work so hard and spend so much money?

 

[Ganja D]

toohighmf,
I hear you, but for now I use AN because their products are easy to use and have noticeably improved almost everything about the herb I grow. I used other good products in the past correctly and got good and great results. So it's not like I was just a bad grower before and then became good with AN all of a sudden. AN does me better. Their advertising and personal lives have nothing to do with why I use their stuff. I use AN for now.(until something changes the game)
To me it sounds like your personal issues with them are at least somewhat part of your dislike for their products, not the performance of the products themselves. No offense intended. I do however appreciate your insight.

 

[B. Friendly]

gotta say for the price they are not worth it. Ya it works but so does everything else on the market.
I still believe General Hydroponics is the best, can't beat their product line everything on it has a clearly defined use.
no double doing it like AN

 

[stasis]

People are often envious of winners.... lol - Even Hydro Store owners can afford boats, second-homes, etc, so why should a Mucky-Muck in a successful Fertilizer Co. not enjoy his/her life/success..??

Just my 2c.

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1) If you know what you are doing, you can "succeed" with many nute regimens...

--- But, "Success" is a relative term, and builds on itself, as we grow and learn more.

IMHO, the goal is: Total Gourmet quality with heavy yield. Pretty simple.

My last two runs - in half a room - fulfilled that ---- and were amazing using the AN Connoisseur (at 75% of the "Light" regimen), in Pro-Mix 3-5gal containers, and most of the additives, as I saw fit. Absolute Diamond-hard nugs, and strong like I have never seen before. Could have been a bit juicier (which could have easily been due to heat, in a CO2-infused room), but the potency is deffo there.

I am running now with a Full Room. Using the CAP Ebb n Grow system, w/The GH 3 part 'simple' regimen. Utilizing Lucas's ratios (0-8-16), and it looks fantastic. The GH 3-part with the E 'n G system works very well...

Alongside are containers with Pro-Mix HP, using the "lightest" AN Connoisseur regimen. Everything looks VERY good now, 14 days in 12/12. Better than last run. No stress, pure happiness all around. Deff the best work I have ever done, up to now. Feeling quite excited.

But, we will see what happens. It should be a good comparison.

 

[toohighmf]

toohighmf,
I hear you, but for now I use AN because their products are easy to use and have noticeably improved almost everything about the herb I grow.

I'm not asking you to switch, and I never said the stuff doesn't work. it all works is what I'm telling you, if you know how to work it.
How can anything be simpler than floranova or lucas? notice you use 75% of the light feed chart. what does that tell you? It says to me, "USE AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND HURRY BACK FOR MORE"

These are the tactics I didn't like, and I'm not a used car salesman or motivational speaker so I quit. I do care about who I'm earning my money from, as much as who I give it to. I don't like the coca cola company, so I don't buy it. A lot of my purchases are based on my personal feelings about a company. I don't buy products from co's that support C.A.M.P, or the war on drugs, and I feel good about a lot of my purchases. Yes I am disgruntled, bitter, and tired of the AN hype. That is why I must try to educate the people buying the Ed Hardy of Nutrients.

 

[BudZad7]

Nice Info of fert types..

Nice Info of fert types..

Hi All ! Very good info about various ferts....

20+ years ago it was known not to use nitrate based ferts for growing
cannabis, most people smoke it, so it's not a good idea. Organics was/
is the best way......for all plants!!! What about the combination of fert
and certain light sources??? The 3 basic light sources,(Flouros,MH,HPS)
in a 12 hr day (spring,fall) the early morning 3hr orange light,and 3hr
late afternoon orange light before dusk, and the mid day 6hr is white light 3+6+3=12hr so,why not do the same in a controlled area???

Nutrients:::The only nitrate is in Calmag+ 2-0-0 (nitrate nitrogen)
Pureblend Pro Grow 3-2-4
Bloom 2.5-2-5
Bloom/soil 1-4-5
Liquid Karma
Sweet-berry
AN:: Big Bud powder 0-15-40
Overdrive 1-5-4 (nitrate nitrogen)
Carboload powder
Sensizym
Final Phase
Pot O Gold

Once a week: Maxicrop liquid seaweed + per 2 gal RO water 1 tsp black strap molasses to nute mix .....this is for mold/stress issues....
mix molasses in a cup with RO water til dissolved, then add to nute
mix
3 week flush start with Final Phase 7~10 days, then plain RO water
til PPM/EC is 0.0 then chop awayyyyy!!!!!

 

[stasis]

-----toohighmf """ I'm not asking you to switch, and I never said the stuff doesn't work. it all works is what I'm telling you, if you know how to work it.
How can anything be simpler than floranova or lucas? notice you use 75% of the light feed chart. what does that tell you? It says to me, "USE AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN AND HURRY BACK FOR MORE""""""


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I AGREE with the above statement, in total... lol... It is all about profits...So are the prices at the hydro Store....

It is True. But, IMHO, many companies ask you to dipense higher quantities of Nitrogen Nutes than most cannabis strains can take.. I am always befuddled how they can do that, as their formulas can cause severe problems, as we all know.

To qualify this.... I am ( and was in the past) using the AN nutes for a DRAIN to WASTE situation, with a Sphagnum Substrate. So a little more than half of RECIRCULATING FEED regimen is called for...

Having said all that...... I dislike having to replace (expensive) 1 liter bottles of additives in the middle of a cycle too..! It is crappy and heinous, I must admit, to be asked to add 10-15ml's of any ADDITIVE per Gallon(4L)...!

A Year ago, I bought the Connoisseur A & B in large containers... It may seem unthrifty, and succumbing to hype. ANd it may be that...! lol...

I was having trouble with yield then.

So, I looked at these expensive nutes for over 1/2 a year, and I felt obligated at least to try 'em, or waste 170.00USD....! Whether I will continue with it is up in the air... Almost done with the Main nutes..

But, up to now, The AN 2-part Conny has performed VERY well with Spagnum Moss... And - it has never looked better, since I applied a very important watering technique I read on a thread from LUCAS.

The GH 3-part "Simple" regimen with LUCAS RATIOS (with occasional extra treats like Carbo Load, Sweet, or Beastie Bloomz), in the Ebb n Grow system is fantastic and much easier too.. I agree..

 

[Ganja D]

Thanks everyone who's posted here so far, be it positive or not so much. I'm happy this conversation and debate is still going.
Here are a few picks of my last harvest grown with AN. Plants had very short veg time and I was away and left an inexperience friend in charge for three weeks.(he slightly underfed and under watered with little harm done) Been curing for over a month now I think. The bud candy really improves flavor compared to any sugars and carbs I've given plants before. Strains were strawberry cough and double strawberry diesel.
Grown with iguana grow/bloom
f1
h2
sensizyme
AN seaweed
organic b
pirahna
tarantula
carbo load powder
voodoo juice
big bud
wet betty(sexy)
colossal bud blast was used a few times as foliar spray but I wasn't there for it
bud candy (yum)
Hand watered with a hose/wand and pump.
Grown in my organic soil recipe and top dressed with guano's a little as a time release every 2.5-3 weeks or so.
I also still love earth juice catalyst but didn't use it this time.




Time to move on for now. Hope I have more to share in the future, I'm in transition for a while. Hope some of you have pics and experiences to share as well.
Peace.
Ganja D...

 

[humboldtlocal]

Looks lovely bro. Best of luck in your future endeavors.

 

[ghostly]

Im blooming 30 Purple Kush plants, just put them in today. i want to run AN. what do i need?
in my research it looks like i need...

sensi AB bloom
big bud
kushie kush
overdrive
budblood/ignitor
sensizyme..... can i substitute w/ hygrozyme?
fi
carboload/budcandy
final solution

does that sound about right?

 

[Ganja D]

Im blooming 30 Purple Kush plants, just put them in today. i want to run AN. what do i need?
in my research it looks like i need...

sensi AB bloom
big bud
kushie kush
overdrive
budblood/ignitor
sensizyme..... can i substitute w/ hygrozyme?
fi
carboload/budcandy
final solution

does that sound about right?

That'll do it. Sounds awesome Ghost, let us know how it goes. You could substitute the sensizyme, but that stuff is great.

 

[neoruler]

I am no expert, only been growing for a couple years now. What I will say is that in my own experience using advanced nutes entire lineup except subbing hygrozyme for sensizym is that compared to when I used GH and Canna the AN runs had thicker, sturdier branches, shorter node spacing, and fatter more dense buds than I have seen using the GH and Canna lineups. The only difference is that my growing medium for the AN and GH runs were in soil whereas I am now in coco. I am new to growing in coco but my friends have run both Canna and AN in coco and the difference has been pretty noticeable.

I have friends who have anywhere from 2kwatt up to 10k watt grows going and up until about 2 runs ago they had all been using AN and switched over to Canna for simplicity's sake. Aside from the couple guys who didnt realize they needed to be adding cal/mag to their RO water and had some problems, the grows in Canna have gone well. However, the main noticable difference has been that the nodes are much further spaced out and while the end product has been great...it just has not matched up to what the AN was doing. When I have seen the end product grown with Canna it has been some really good shit, but the shit grown with AN just blows it away in terms of trichome production, density, and it smells better.

That being said, there is nothing wrong with just going w/ Canna or any other lineup and as many others do using BigBud and Overdrive as additives and the end product will be phenomenal...but the shit I've seen grown w/ AN has just been absolutely off the charts.

My current grow in coco w/ Canna has been a little f'd up b/c I am still trying to get accustomed to the new medium, but even the new "Bud Candy" that I am using for the 1st time has impressed me. I'm on day 25 of flower and the trichome production ans smell is alot more than I have seen in my homies grows who are using some other product like Trinity.

 

[toohighmf]

Bud blood should only be used on equatorial 12+ week strains. never add a High pk booster to a transistional or bloom res the 1st 2-3 weeks? why???? theres no buds!!!!! if you must try the stuff, go basic first. otherwise you'll be a hater for sure!
base big bud overdrive botanicare calmg+, hygrozyme, ph up n down. However I am hearing great things about this bud factor X shit and swears by it so we'll see.

and for the record, another guy w 5 posts...

 

[neoruler]

Bud blood should only be used on equatorial 12+ week strains. never add a High pk booster to a transistional or bloom res the 1st 2-3 weeks? why???? theres no buds!!!!! if you must try the stuff, go basic first. otherwise you'll be a hater for sure!
base big bud overdrive botanicare calmg+, hygrozyme, ph up n down. However I am hearing great things about this bud factor X shit and swears by it so we'll see.

and for the record, another guy w 5 posts...

I assume you are referring to me...and yout point IS?!?! Would having 1000 posts somehow make my own experience and what I have seen with my own eyes done by friends accurate, whereas being a new poster means that it is not?

I already stated I have only been growing for a couple of years now and I have friends that have been doing it for 10 yrs or more, some 5 or 6, some less time than me. I dont proclaim to be some sort of EXPERT like some people do. I am still learning and will continue to learn...BUT the fact that I "only" have 5 posts has absolutely zero relationship with whether I am some total noob who is just making some shit up b/c a friend of a friend showed me some bud that he "says" was grown with AN...OR whether I live in grow central and am surrounded by people running all types of shit and have seen on multiple occassions with my own two peepers grows from beg to end using AN that have blown away what other stuff has done, and my own experiences w/ the stuff, albeit only 2 grows. I've seen GREAT stuff produced using other brands, but for WHATEVER REASON the stuff done with AN has been the best shit I have ever seen grown in terms of overall yield, smell, taste (aside from total organic stuff), and potency.

I've been lurking around here long enough already to know that you have some sort of odd fixation/vendetta with AN...and that is fine. I'm sure you have your reasons, but to constantly play the post# card and slag on their products seems a bit childish and insecure to me. I personally know a few people who HATE AN products, and say the same shit as you...but your obsession is a little overboard. The only negative things I can say is that it gets tiresome having a zillion bottles of stuff to add and that alot of people when 1st using their stuff that I know have burnt the hell out of their plants b/c they followed the nute calc on the website (they REALLY should fix that, and YES I know it is your opnion they do it on purpose so you use more than needed). I found cutting it back to 2/3 what the website recommended and monitoring my runoff worked just fine.

Try to NOT be so aggressive and treating others w/ a differing opinion in such a derisive manner all the time and you might not get into so many "arguments" and may actually have a productive discussion about the pros/cons of their products, some of which I have seen you say good things about in the past. But your attitude is pretty horrible so you immediately rub people the wrong way.

 

[toohighmf]

before I even read the post, there has been an alarmingly high number of new members running straight to these style threads. I had 5000+ at the old AN med forums.. BFD. That is not the point. the point is to consider the source is all. The writing even feels like that of these newer posters with a whole new twist... CANNA..

 

[microgram]

To close this thread:
Some people like simplicity, and others like complexity.

Simplicity is nice, it's simple. Not much to go wrong.
Complexity is great because it gives you full control over absolutely everything.

With the simple product, people are more ept to blame the results on what the manufacturer has created. That's why some people use out-of-the-bag soils. And that is why we see more people blaming it on the soils, as where people who premix their own shit typically know exactly whats in it, and will tweak their methods. (example)

Down to the point: AN wouldn't be around if it wasn't useful. Nor would any of the other hydro/fert companies. They both have their benefits.

Before this goes anywhere too far, lets just end this big frazzle, and agree to disagree.
I personally am in for customizability, but I unfortunately do not have the space nor the funds to be able to have a full fledged indoor garden. But to each his own.

I don't have the experience that I wish I could with dope, I'll only gain experience with time. Post count doesn't reflect time, it reflects the amount of time you visit these forums. You may have a very busy schedule with the green and with your life; thus you may not be around here long.

I am a huge forums person, and to be quite frank: I've seen some amazing things come from people I thought knew absolutely nothing, when in fact, instead of being on here, they were out working with their hands and learning. You learn a lot by reading, but not nearly as much as an 'apprentice'. (But they do go hand in hand, down the line.)