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djslife

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Sounds great.:smokeit:

Any tips on a good PC case to choose and what kind of fan would be a good choice? I'm only asking because this is the PC club and I figured you could enlighten a fellow grower who's used to growing in a closet not a PC. Try to be a little less sarcastic towards someone who's actually interested in your style of growing next time Ghostwolf, it's uncalled for.

-djslife
 
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detoneSmoker

Any tips on a good PC case to choose and what kind of fan would be a good choice? I'm only asking because this is the PC club and I figured you could enlighten a fellow grower who's used to growing in a closet not a PC. Try to be a little less sarcastic towards someone who's actually interested in your style of growing next time Ghostwolf, it's uncalled for.

-djslife


Start on page 1 and start reading man.. Honestly best thing you can do.
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
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Any tips on a good PC case to choose and what kind of fan would be a good choice? I'm only asking because this is the PC club and I figured you could enlighten a fellow grower who's used to growing in a closet not a PC. Try to be a little less sarcastic towards someone who's actually interested in your style of growing next time Ghostwolf, it's uncalled for.

-djslife[/quote; :smokeit:
Sorry, I didn't know that I said any thing sarcastic :confused:. My posts here have been to show my own efforts, or to thank others for their effort's and to thank them for helping to me. :smokeit:But to answer your question, I wouldn't use a fan smaller than 80mm fan, that's what I'm using. I do believe that a exhaust fan should be larger than the intake fan. I have 80mm's for both in mine and it work's good because my case is a small ATX mid tower case 16x16x8. my next case will be a larger ATX mid, but a large ATX tower is preferable, I just don't have one at the moment. any way bigger case, bigger fans 120mm's are good some folks go even larger on the fans. It's pretty much up you and what you have available to use or are able to buy. there's only a few basics to take care of when building a pc grow case. I made mine for under $20 only because I had most of the parts already. Some folks do spend a lot of money and time in creating their grow case's, and have some very impressing one's. I hope that I've helped you out some. We're all in this together just trying to talk and learn and grow. Sincerely Ghostwolf :yes::cool::smokeit:
 

pjådd

New member
Wow, I'm amazed at the ingenuity of you people! Very inspiring.

So inspirining, in fact, that I decided I'd try and grow myself my first plant (of any kind, actually) in one of my old cases. For the last few weeks I've been reading up on lighting, nutrients, and everything else, but of course there still remains a few questions. Hopefully I can get some answers here!

Basically I'm using a standard 16x16x8" case, where I'll use two 0,23A 92mm Zalman fans for exhaust (one in the PSU exhaust slot and one below it in the back exhaust slot), with sugabear-style scrubbers. At first I planned on using an intake fan, however I then read that it could cause turbulence and overpressure, so I'm guessing a passive intake would be best.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time deciding what wattage my CFLs should have. I don't know how much of their power is converted into heat (maybe someone here does?) so I can't use normal incandescents to runt heat tests, and since my budget is kinda tight I really need some input. Would I be crazy trying to use a 125W CFL for veg (without the scrubbers), and then switching to 75-100W for flowering (with scrubbers), or is the risk of heat problems too great in such a small case with those fans, scrubbers and passive intake? I can't afford to buy bulbs I won't be able to use, and the only decent 6500K CFLs I can get hold of use 125W or more. Ambient temps can be kept very low if needed.

Then of course come the questions of whether to grow one or two plants, and whether to LST or scrog, but I guess I could find the answer to those re-reading the thread for a third time. :biggrin:

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 

BC Chronic

Paging Dr.Greenthumb
Veteran
Good job algrow! Nice plant..
Hey djslife I am using an aluminum pc case and its great for controling heat , Its a Lian-Li tower and its huge..
delta, Scythe, vantec, thermaltake are all good quality fans and they all have models with very high cfm's which is a good thing too..
here is a pic of the girl that I'm almost done with...
Good luck!
 

djslife

Active member
Sorry I didn't know that I said any thing sarcastic. My posts here have been to show my own efforts, or to thank others for their effort's and help to me. :smokeit:
Sorry I didn't know that I said any thing sarcastic :confused:. My posts here have been to show my own efforts, or to thank others for their effort's and to thank them for helping to me. :smokeit:But to answer your question, I wouldn't use a fan smaller than 80mm fan, that's what I'm using. I do believe that a exhaust fan should be larger than the intake fan. I have 80mm's for both in mine and it work's good because my case is a small ATX mid tower case 16x16x8. my next case will be a larger ATX mid, but a large ATX tower is preferable, I just don't have one at the moment. any way bigger case, bigger fans 120mm's are good some folks go even larger on the fans. It's pretty much up you and what you have available to use or are able to buy. there's only a few basics to take care of when building a pc grow case. I made mine for under $20 only because I had most of the parts already. Some folks do spend a lot of money and time in creating their grow case's, and have some very impressing one's. I hope that I've helped you out some. We're all in this together just trying to talk and learn and grow. Sincerely Ghostwolf :yes::cool::smokeit:

Thank you Ghostwolf, I appreciate your help.:huggg: haha

-djslife
 

djslife

Active member
Good job algrow! Nice plant..
Hey djslife I am using an aluminum pc case and its great for controling heat , Its a Lian-Li tower and its huge..
delta, Scythe, vantec, thermaltake are all good quality fans and they all have models with very high cfm's which is a good thing too..
here is a pic of the girl that I'm almost done with...
Good luck!

Great grow man, I think I was checking out your thread the other day. Haha, now I get to decide on the big question, HPS (cooltube) or CFL (cooltube). I've been impressed with both methods of lighting. I will be growing with the SCROG method. CFL's, I can customize the light spectrum, easier to mount whereas HPS is tried and true. Such a tough decision.

-djslife
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
Veteran
Wow, I'm amazed at the ingenuity of you people! Very inspiring.

So inspiring, in fact, that I decided I'd try and grow myself my first plant (of any kind, actually) in one of my old cases. For the last few weeks I've been reading up on lighting, nutrients, and everything else, but of course there still remains a few questions. Hopefully I can get some answers here!

Basically I'm using a standard 16x16x8" case, where I'll use two 0,23A 92mm Zalman fans for exhaust (one in the PSU exhaust slot and one below it in the back exhaust slot), with sugabear-style scrubbers. At first I planned on using an intake fan, however I then read that it could cause turbulence and overpressure, so I'm guessing a passive intake would be best.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time deciding what wattage my CFLs should have. I don't know how much of their power is converted into heat (maybe someone here does?) so I can't use normal incandescents to runt heat tests, and since my budget is kinda tight I really need some input. Would I be crazy trying to use a 125W CFL for veg (without the scrubbers), and then switching to 75-100W for flowering (with scrubbers), or is the risk of heat problems too great in such a small case with those fans, scrubbers and passive intake? I can't afford to buy bulbs I won't be able to use, and the only decent 6500K CFLs I can get hold of use 125W or more. Ambient temps can be kept very low if needed.

Then of course come the questions of whether to grow one or two plants, and whether to LST or scrog, but I guess I could find the answer to those re-reading the thread for a third time. :biggrin:

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
:smokeit: No problem man. I just read your post and it would seem that we are using the size case 16x16x8 mid tower. I went with the design set up I found on "The Cheap Vegetable Gardener" site under "How to Build a PC Grow Case Under $20", and added my own extras that I wanted. I thought I could tell you about my case and possibly help some. I would say you've pretty much hit the nail on the head all the way around. Your use of 92mm fan's good, I use 2, 80mm one low down in the front, and one up at the top in the back, the front intake doesn't cause any turbulence as I have a light trap vent on it and it's a gentle breeze that comes thu. A passive intake is good with two exhaust fans, I would have done that, but didn't read about it till after I was using mine. My case temp stays around 75 to 82 inside, I also have a home made carbon filter on the exhaust, it's just a dryer sheet cut to size and folded with edges glued to form a bag and filled with aquarium activated carbon then taped to the fan, it seems to work good and also blocks the light, but my point with it is I still have good air flow. I use 2, 23w/100w, 6500k daylight CFL's to vegetate and 2, 26/100, 2700k soft white CFL's to flower and I'm doing good with those. I, like you didn't have much of a budget to work with. I got the Great Value soft whites at Wal-Mart and cost was under $6.00 for 3, and the 6500k daylight's are Walgreen's brand were like the same price for 2. Heat really isn't much of an issue, I can put them an inch from the plant's and the girl's are flowering like crazy. Next time I think I'll use more light to get to 300w total and change my fan setup to, 2 exhaust and the passive intake. Your choice of 125w CFL's is also good I like that as well. Some folk's use up to 4 CFL's or more and different wattages lower and higher, more light equals more heat so better cooling is needed. I don't recommend using less than 2 100watt CFL's unless you had a lot more room. A full ATX tower would be best, but our size works good. I use the LST method due to the box size, that also work's good, I've never used SCROG that works just as well from what I've seen. I grow in the foam cup-o-soup cups and 32oz foam drink cups I use rubber bands and paper clips to hold the plants down, it's very simple and easy to do. I think that about covers it, I'm sure others will offer their experince and idea's also. But that's why we're all here. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and feel free to post photo's of case and grow.:cool: :smokeit:
 
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detoneSmoker

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My case stays between 77-81*F when the lights are on. Scrubbers on all fans(4 total). 2x27w and 1 26w for lights(got pics up of them). I found useing the case's power supply's houseing you can make a perfect exhaust system with the fans in the power supply PERFECT. Im also doing a scrog. After you do this grow i would look into the "DWC" growing method.good luck
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
Veteran
My case stays between 77-81*F when the lights are on. Scrubbers on all fans(4 total). 2x27w and 1 26w for lights(got pics up of them). I found using the case's power supply's housing you can make a perfect exhaust system with the fans in the power supply PERFECT. I'm also doing a scrog. After you do this grow i would look into the "DWC" growing method.good luck
:smokeit: Thanks, I was thinking about doing DWC as soon as I have all the parts I need together for the next grow. I also use the cases power supply housing and fan that's where I got my fans, by salvaging blown power supply's fans. It sounds as if you got a great set up. How large is your PC case?:smokeit:
 
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detoneSmoker

:smokeit: Thanks, I was thinking about doing DWC as soon as I have all the parts I need together for the next grow. I also use the cases power supply housing and fan that's where I got my fans, by salvaging blown power supply's fans. It sounds as if you got a great set up. How large is your PC case?:smokeit:

17x8x24. i found some really easy ways to dwc. results look amazing and growth rate is ideal for medisenal use. I have pictures posted on this page and one before if you havent looked.
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
Veteran
17x8x24. i found some really easy ways to dwc. results look amazing and growth rate is ideal for medisenal use. I have pictures posted on this page and one before if you havent looked.
That's a good a size case. You have me intrigued now. I haven't looked, but I'll definetly look now. Thanks
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
Veteran
tell me what you think.
Looks good I like the set up. Maybe I'm blind which is a distinct possibility, but I didn't see the hydro set up or DWC. I must have missed something. Do you know what all of the pages your posts are on?
 
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detoneSmoker

Looks good I like the set up. Maybe I'm blind which is a distinct possibility, but I didn't see the hydro set up or DWC. I must have missed something. Do you know what all of the pages your posts are on?

I started them in dirt before i learned about the dwc. I was to afraid to try to transplant so i figured id learn all about it and do it my next grow. This is simple miracle grow top soil. I feed them piss once a week and water every other day. And mist them right before lights come on everyday.


This is an excellent video explaining "DWC" and how to make it cheaply!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yy5kJwdMv8
 

pjådd

New member
No problem man. I just read your post and it would seem that we are using the size case 16x16x8 mid tower. I went with the design set up I found on "The Cheap Vegetable Gardener" site under "How to Build a PC Grow Case Under $20", and added my own extras that I wanted. I thought I could tell you about my case and possibly help some. I would say you've pretty much hit the nail on the head all the way around. Your use of 92mm fan's good, I use 2, 80mm one low down in the front, and one up at the top in the back, the front intake doesn't cause any turbulence as I have a light trap vent on it and it's a gentle breeze that comes thu. A passive intake is good with two exhaust fans, I would have done that, but didn't read about it till after I was using mine.

Thanks for the reply!
Basically, this is what I have to work with:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2exr9lj.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2ziy05t.jpg

Me trying to steal ideas from the awesome nanomachine, I want it to look like a working computer from the outside. What I'm going to do aswell is to glue normal DC adapter connectors on instead of the audio connectors - should make plugging one or two adapters in look quite innocent (http://i48.tinypic.com/2prgtbd.jpg). Still trying to figure out how much space I want the intake light traps occupying...


My case temp stays around 75 to 82 inside, I also have a home made carbon filter on the exhaust, it's just a dryer sheet cut to size and folded with edges glued to form a bag and filled with aquarium activated carbon then taped to the fan, it seems to work good and also blocks the light, but my point with it is I still have good air flow. I use 2, 23w/100w, 6500k daylight CFL's to vegetate and 2, 26/100, 2700k soft white CFL's to flower and I'm doing good with those. I, like you didn't have much of a budget to work with. I got the Great Value soft whites at Wal-Mart and cost was under $6.00 for 3, and the 6500k daylight's are Walgreen's brand were like the same price for 2. Heat really isn't much of an issue, I can put them an inch from the plant's and the girl's are flowering like crazy. Next time I think I'll use more light to get to 300w total and change my fan setup to, 2 exhaust and the passive intake. Your choice of 125w CFL's is also good I like that as well. Some folk's use up to 4 CFL's or more and different wattages lower and higher, more light equals more heat so better cooling is needed. I don't recommend using less than 2 100watt CFL's unless you had a lot more room. A full ATX tower would be best, but our size works good.
Just to clarify myself I meant using a CFL with an actual power of 125W, not one with 125W equivalent. However, in addition to being somewhat optimistic I misread the length of those CFLs, and to try and fit one while maintaining good airflow seems like a project for the future. :)
They'd turn out too expensive anyway; at $60 each I'd be way over budget.

Am I correct in reading that you're using a total of 46W during veg, and 52W during bloom, and plan on upping that to 69W veg / 78W bloom?
If so I think I'll probably get myself lights putting me at around 80W for both phases... Should be pretty cheap and bright enough, I hope. Could always get more should heat not be an issue.


I use the LST method due to the box size, that also work's good, I've never used SCROG that works just as well from what I've seen. I grow in the foam cup-o-soup cups and 32oz foam drink cups I use rubber bands and paper clips to hold the plants down, it's very simple and easy to do. I think that about covers it, I'm sure others will offer their experince and idea's also. But that's why we're all here. I wish you the best of luck with everything, and feel free to post photo's of case and grow.
Yeah, think I'll try LST aswell. I just hope I can anticipate how much the plant will grow vertically, and hope I switch to 12/12 at the right moment...

Cheers! :smoke:
 

Ghostwolf

Pirate & Cherokee Warrior for Freedom and Cannabis
Veteran
Thanks for the reply!
Basically, this is what I have to work with:
http://i46.tinypic.com/2exr9lj.jpg
http://i48.tinypic.com/2ziy05t.jpg

Me trying to steal ideas from the awesome nanomachine, I want it to look like a working computer from the outside. What I'm going to do aswell is to glue normal DC adapter connectors on instead of the audio connectors - should make plugging one or two adapters in look quite innocent (http://i48.tinypic.com/2prgtbd.jpg). Still trying to figure out how much space I want the intake light traps occupying...


Just to clarify myself I meant using a CFL with an actual power of 125W, not one with 125W equivalent. However, in addition to being somewhat optimistic I misread the length of those CFLs, and to try and fit one while maintaining good airflow seems like a project for the future. :)
They'd turn out too expensive anyway; at $60 each I'd be way over budget.

Am I correct in reading that you're using a total of 46W during veg, and 52W during bloom, and plan on upping that to 69W veg / 78W bloom?
If so I think I'll probably get myself lights putting me at around 80W for both phases... Should be pretty cheap and bright enough, I hope. Could always get more should heat not be an issue.Cheers! Yeah, think I'll try LST as well. I just hope I can anticipate how much the plant will grow vertically, and hope I switch to 12/12 at the right moment... :smoke:[/quote


That looks like a very good case to start with.:smokeit: Sounds like you have the power handled.:smokeit:My light traps are the same style created by "scrubninja" and it's about 2 inches deep, and you can place them inside or out, but is more stealthily inside.:smokeit:Yes 125w is bigger and hotter and works better in a full tower case. They do cost more but work good. if cost is a issue try CFL's similar to what I use, they work great.:smokeit:You are correct about my wattages, the smaller bulbs make less heat and work very well and the prices are good.:smokeit:I'm actualy getting more flowers with LST.:smokeit:Plant height depends on the strain. Go 12/12 when the plants start to show their sex, or go 12/12 start to finish like some folks.
 
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