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irishboy
things might be finish is a week or so.
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botanist85
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Hey here is something for you to check out Irish. I think Im going to order this light to supplement my led grow. Its uses UV leds, and the rest are all red, to me it sounds like a pretty good bud stacker when used in conjunction with a full spectrum light.
http://cgi.ebay.com/90w-Hydroponic-...ltDomain_0?hash=item414bc76505#ht_6264wt_1165
http://cgi.ebay.com/90w-Hydroponic-...ltDomain_0?hash=item414bc76505#ht_6264wt_1165
The cheapest way to add UV to your garden, is by purchasing the 4W, 6W, 9W+ UV tubes available from a ton of online retailers. They look like CFL's, but emit UV. You need 285-315nm anyhow to make a beneficial impact on THC/resin, and LED's in that range cost over $90 a piece, and are made by only 1 company in the world. The UV CFL's cost only $8-$20...
Play safe.
Play safe.
"You need 285-315nm anyhow to make a beneficial impact on THC/resin,"
Spot on, LG!
Don't forget to mention that the shorter wavelength UV requires eye and skin protection.
Those quartz tube Mercury vapor UV lamps will do serious damage to people and plants if handled carelessly.
Weezard
Play safe.
"You need 285-315nm anyhow to make a beneficial impact on THC/resin,"
Spot on, LG!
Don't forget to mention that the shorter wavelength UV requires eye and skin protection.
Those quartz tube Mercury vapor UV lamps will do serious damage to people and plants if handled carelessly.
Weezard
The funny thing is.... LED manufactures are calling 425nm (Ultra violet). If I'm not mistaken 425nm is Far Blue not UV.. I think people will get confused with this type of advertising.. My guess is the company selling these lights must think growers want UV so they put it in there advertising...LOL.. IMO they should be correctly stating that it's Far Blue and not Ultra Violet.. Weez (what's up) did you look at that light botanist85 is talking about? Pretty interesting don't you think...
I've used a CFL UV bulb for years and I don't know if it makes a difference or not. If someone has some definitive biology on this (and not anecdotal - "my buds were killa' potent because of the UV" - evidence) I would like to hear it. I haven't seen anything and I have the lamp (got it at the pet store) and always ran it in the closet grow room under the operating theory it couldn't hurt, but did it really help? Did it make my stuff really that strong? I haven't assayed anything and therefore I can't prove it one way or another. Anyone with some assayed results?
It is always the case as technological advances occur there are improvements.
Just thinking out loud here. Lots to be learned here and this is new territory, but to say that the first lights didn't work at all seems a bit far-fetched. Maybe separate corners should be found and wait for the bell... Goodness, this is an online community and not people in your own home, work or whatever. kwim, vern? Take a deep one and then cuss me out, cuz. LOL!
Just thinking out loud here. Lots to be learned here and this is new territory, but to say that the first lights didn't work at all seems a bit far-fetched. Maybe separate corners should be found and wait for the bell... Goodness, this is an online community and not people in your own home, work or whatever. kwim, vern? Take a deep one and then cuss me out, cuz. LOL!
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Uncle Remus
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Caught my eye, read the thread, looked at the pics, check out the site, and here's my 2 cents
1) Plants look thin and stretchy and need a MAJOR trim job...Chop off all that lower junk and yield should increase SOMEWHAT...Might be strain specific but I'm guessing not...
2) Buds also look airy as hell as well...These are going on week 7 or 8??? Look like week 4 on my C99 and she's a light yielder
3) IMO there is NO WHERE NEAR the canopy penetration of HID's...Lights like these LEDs are be better suited to a micro/super stealth SCROG setup...Anything less than 8-12" below the lights is gonna be popcorn IMO
4) I could get 2 magnetic 400w ballasts ($140 for 2) ,with A/C hoods ($350 for 2) and bulbs ($120 for 2), and a scrubber for the same price as one 318w'er and cat-box it yield wise...Maybe even have some cash left over for a good fan (easily afford a modded Stanley)...
5) Money savings on your electric bill??? 2 400's will run me probably an extra $50-60 a month...Big deal
1) Plants look thin and stretchy and need a MAJOR trim job...Chop off all that lower junk and yield should increase SOMEWHAT...Might be strain specific but I'm guessing not...
2) Buds also look airy as hell as well...These are going on week 7 or 8??? Look like week 4 on my C99 and she's a light yielder
3) IMO there is NO WHERE NEAR the canopy penetration of HID's...Lights like these LEDs are be better suited to a micro/super stealth SCROG setup...Anything less than 8-12" below the lights is gonna be popcorn IMO
4) I could get 2 magnetic 400w ballasts ($140 for 2) ,with A/C hoods ($350 for 2) and bulbs ($120 for 2), and a scrubber for the same price as one 318w'er and cat-box it yield wise...Maybe even have some cash left over for a good fan (easily afford a modded Stanley)...
5) Money savings on your electric bill??? 2 400's will run me probably an extra $50-60 a month...Big deal
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irishboy
no i am going to hang the whole plant, sorry no wet weight. i started to flush last night so i figure in about 1.5 weeks they will be done.
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irishboy
looks can be deceiving. their is no airy buds that i feel.
nowonknows
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So how do you make popcorn with LED's? I think HID lamps would be more suited to this as heat is required not light.
Uncle Remus
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HEY
Where's my last post???
No reason for it??? Come on now, that's unfair...Can't we just kiss and make up
I even changed my sig just to prove I'm trying
Where's my last post???
No reason for it??? Come on now, that's unfair...Can't we just kiss and make up
I even changed my sig just to prove I'm trying
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CannaCompulsory
uvblunt
uvblunt
Anecdotal advice can be invaluable, although you got to consider the source.
Your not going to neccesarily 'see' anything though maybe feel it.
Ed Rosenthal has written some on this with some qualified research.."[The discussion in “The Best of Ask Ed” was about research that showed THC content of high-quality plants increased in direct ratio to the amount of UVB light they received. –Ed.]".
uvblunt
Anecdotal advice can be invaluable, although you got to consider the source.
Your not going to neccesarily 'see' anything though maybe feel it.
Ed Rosenthal has written some on this with some qualified research.."[The discussion in “The Best of Ask Ed” was about research that showed THC content of high-quality plants increased in direct ratio to the amount of UVB light they received. –Ed.]".
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CannaCompulsory
off topic
off topic
No offence but this is off topic. The thread seems to be a comparison between 2 LED grow products, not the general efficacy of LEDS, or their weaknesses. If it was debating the weaknesses of LEDS in general, then I can see on pointing out the drawbacks, such as environmental concerns with throwing out a whole LED unit when the 40K operation hours are up as opposed to just replacing a light bulb.
The other points on light penetration are as well valid, however as stated earlier, off-topic.
PEACE! PEACE! and more peace.. and lets all find threads that are of our INTEREST not OPPOSITION, and we all will be more productive in our pursuit of ganja-knowledge...thats what it SHOULD be all about anyway IMNSFHO
off topic
No offence but this is off topic. The thread seems to be a comparison between 2 LED grow products, not the general efficacy of LEDS, or their weaknesses. If it was debating the weaknesses of LEDS in general, then I can see on pointing out the drawbacks, such as environmental concerns with throwing out a whole LED unit when the 40K operation hours are up as opposed to just replacing a light bulb.
The other points on light penetration are as well valid, however as stated earlier, off-topic.
PEACE! PEACE! and more peace.. and lets all find threads that are of our INTEREST not OPPOSITION, and we all will be more productive in our pursuit of ganja-knowledge...thats what it SHOULD be all about anyway IMNSFHO
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SlevinK
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I have a LED question although I'm not sure if its in the appropriate thread, if not feel free to move it (but clue me in to the redirect? haha).
We have been using 90W pro source LEDs with our aeroponic units with strong results and quick turn over. My question is:
I noticed several of the budding plants (which are 6" or less from the top of the colas), have turned completely white from the LEDs, only the ones very close to the lights have done this, is this an anomoly or regular occurance? While they are incredible looking I'm wonder why this happened and will there be any accompanying negative effects to the strength/yield etc?
Thanks for helping.
Justin
We have been using 90W pro source LEDs with our aeroponic units with strong results and quick turn over. My question is:
I noticed several of the budding plants (which are 6" or less from the top of the colas), have turned completely white from the LEDs, only the ones very close to the lights have done this, is this an anomoly or regular occurance? While they are incredible looking I'm wonder why this happened and will there be any accompanying negative effects to the strength/yield etc?
Thanks for helping.
Justin
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irishboy
your lights are too close and ur bleaching ur buds. i dont know how this will affect ur product? but thats whats happing and why. raise the light a little higher
SlevinK
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Thanks bro, a mod also sent me a note suggesting the same.
How'z your product coming along?
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