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am thinking of ordering 1 of these systems. I have been hittin the web several hours a day, looking for good prices on these systems, and have found lower than average prices, from some Hydroponic stores. So I am torn between the
1)Botanicare Turbogarden Ebb & Flow, that normally goes for $325, my local store sells it for $380 plus tax(another $25). I found it for $240, and it is the complete system too(not like I need hydroton, or nutes, but I never used Botanicare nutes(aside from Cal-Mag+, Sweet and Clearex, which I have in my gear now), but hey I can try it, and regardless. I saw a Bare bone(no medium, nutes, etc. And it's still $50 more expensive then this 1 I found. So I think it would make sense to get the bigger bang for my buck.
2)Botanicare Econojet. Now there's 4 of these systems, though the most popular is a 2x2 system. There is also a 2x4, a 3x3, and a 4x4(is NOT an option. 2 big). now the 3x3 is pretty expensive because of shipping, where the 2x4 system is cheaper by a few dollars and shipping is regular(not special shipping like 3x3) so it's cheaper also. So anyways. I can get a 2x4 system for about $250, and a 3x3 from about $300-$325, shipped to my house. Oh yeah, and those prices are w/o the bench. Figured I really don't need to pay that much for a stand. That I can make right?
3)Then there's the General Hydroponics Waterfarm 8 pack. This one is iffy. Because I hear that it's a lot of maintenance. Plus I use General Hydroponcs Floralicious+, and though it's made by GH, I have had people tell me that Drip Systems are BITCHES when it comes to feeding(tubes clogging and such). It has to be certain nutes/supplements. Some nutes/supplements don't work as well in drip, as it would as per say in Ebb & Flow. I'm not trying to say that there's nutes just for Drip System. But from my understanding, not all products work as well in drip systems. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I have never used ANY of these systems. I have grown 4 times in DWC system, and this is my first time in soil/soilless(and I HATE it!) I need to go back to Hydro, but don't ever want to do DWC again. And I don't want anymore DIY. I want to try a "real" system.
So check it out...... ALL INPUT ARE WELCOME BUT!!!!! I REALLY want to hear from the people who OWN, or HAVE OWNED.
Oh yeah!!!!! Another thing I wanted opinions on. If the choice were the Turbogarden, or the Econojet. Should I use 5" pots, in a ebb and flow or just fill the tray with hydroton? Just scared if I use containers that light will hit that nute solution.
1)Botanicare Turbogarden Ebb & Flow, that normally goes for $325, my local store sells it for $380 plus tax(another $25). I found it for $240, and it is the complete system too(not like I need hydroton, or nutes, but I never used Botanicare nutes(aside from Cal-Mag+, Sweet and Clearex, which I have in my gear now), but hey I can try it, and regardless. I saw a Bare bone(no medium, nutes, etc. And it's still $50 more expensive then this 1 I found. So I think it would make sense to get the bigger bang for my buck.
2)Botanicare Econojet. Now there's 4 of these systems, though the most popular is a 2x2 system. There is also a 2x4, a 3x3, and a 4x4(is NOT an option. 2 big). now the 3x3 is pretty expensive because of shipping, where the 2x4 system is cheaper by a few dollars and shipping is regular(not special shipping like 3x3) so it's cheaper also. So anyways. I can get a 2x4 system for about $250, and a 3x3 from about $300-$325, shipped to my house. Oh yeah, and those prices are w/o the bench. Figured I really don't need to pay that much for a stand. That I can make right?
3)Then there's the General Hydroponics Waterfarm 8 pack. This one is iffy. Because I hear that it's a lot of maintenance. Plus I use General Hydroponcs Floralicious+, and though it's made by GH, I have had people tell me that Drip Systems are BITCHES when it comes to feeding(tubes clogging and such). It has to be certain nutes/supplements. Some nutes/supplements don't work as well in drip, as it would as per say in Ebb & Flow. I'm not trying to say that there's nutes just for Drip System. But from my understanding, not all products work as well in drip systems. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I have never used ANY of these systems. I have grown 4 times in DWC system, and this is my first time in soil/soilless(and I HATE it!) I need to go back to Hydro, but don't ever want to do DWC again. And I don't want anymore DIY. I want to try a "real" system.
So check it out...... ALL INPUT ARE WELCOME BUT!!!!! I REALLY want to hear from the people who OWN, or HAVE OWNED.
Oh yeah!!!!! Another thing I wanted opinions on. If the choice were the Turbogarden, or the Econojet. Should I use 5" pots, in a ebb and flow or just fill the tray with hydroton? Just scared if I use containers that light will hit that nute solution.
I usually veg for around 7-10 days with HEAVY LST.. 
Are u using 2 1000 watts, and how far are u keeping ur lamps away from ur girls? Just wondering cause the lamps do look high up. And I use 1-600 watt air-cooled reflector, along with 1-400 non air cooled, and my temp of the canopy hits 79, but that's with 3 fans blowing over canopy. I'm 18-26" away from the bulbs(depends wat part of the canopy, obviously) Thanks for all ur info, bro. +rep. Peace, Love, Unity, Respect.
. My only issues with the Turbogarden, is 1-the tray size, 2- is the fact that I'm being told that the tray IS the cover to the res. Is that true, people? I would rater have a proper lid to the res. Just makes me think that res with a proper lid is more reliable, IMO. But all and all, the Ebb & Flow seems to be the way +rep. Thank bro. Peace, Love, Unity, & Respect.
Mom school paid for something. I do have a brain! LMFAO!
