The Greatest True Story Ever Told

[Grat3fulh3ad]

sirgrassalot, In response to me in another thread you said...

I Since you totally ignored my thread we'll see what you have to say ... Lets hear it all, don't hold back.

Then I came here at your request and you said

You have something here you don't think is right? Just the Isis parts, more?

Then I answered you with proof the Isis site upon which your answers are based was bunk. I have shown it repeatedly.

First you try to say it is all allegory, but that made no sense in light of your earlier postings such as:

This is where The Greatest True Story Ever Told for the Love of the Pagans of the Isis Bloodline Twice Wise ~ Homo Sapien Sapiens will be posted within.

I will bring my collection of postings into this one thread. I will try to make it uncomplicated but guaranteed easier to follow than the bible which is in itself myths & stories of earlier Paganism.
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and

we'll see what you have to say to the questions I offer some answers to. Lets start at the melt down, where was civilization started & by who, relatives, completely different humans, were they homo sapiens or homo sapien sapiens both, what caused us to go from gatherers & hunters to farmers? Are the pyramids around the world a fluke man just like to build them, dragons who what were they how come they're worldwide, sasquatch bigfoot stories why so many around the world yet only footprints left, These questions & more I've tried to answer using the combination of myth, facts & common sense with the internet as my tool for the search.

Then It comes out that you know it is all bullshit and you are just entertaining your self at the expense of others...

This forum is for entertainment & anyone that thinks its something else is a dumb twat.

Man, you're a class act... You start this thread full of craziness, and ask me to comment about what I don't think is right... only to ignore all of the good factual verifiable data I bring up in favor of rapid fire derision... Sounds 100% like a troll thing to do... maybe I'm wrong and you were just being a TOOL instead of a troll...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Wow... Check this Story out...
http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/contents.htm

 

[sirgrassalot]

The Glimmer Twins ~ Twin Serpents

The Glimmer Twins ~ Twin Serpents

I've done some major editing on my last few postings now I've had a bit of a break & my babes are asleep.
Sorry I can't clean up the spam people, someones hooked onto my left nut. It is the larger of the two.

Please allow me to introduce my Gods, The Glimmer Twins, I know yours bow to mine:

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

LMAO... you are being a left nut, and the only spam here is from you...

I have consistently posted up PERTINENT information which you choose to IGNORE to instead SPAM the site with irrelevant pictures with meaningless captions...
Only a complete jerk would INVITE me to this thread and ASK FOR my opinions, for the sole purpose of IGNORING the substance of my post, to SPAM the thread with content-less derision... Why do you have such a hard-on for me anyhow?... Regardless, You have shown your true character... You post up lies as the truth and then deride anyone who exposes you... pitiful pitiful...

As far as the thread... Now that you've admitted that your real purpose was NOT to discuss truth or history, but merely entertain yourself at what you think is another's expense...

I really don't want to listen, learn & share in a civilized manner, you listening?
This thread is for entertainment & anyone
that thinks it's something else is a dumb twat.

Nice job! Very entertaining! No substance whtsoever, but very entertaining...

 

[sempervirdis]

Wow... Check this Story out...
http://www.proaxis.com/~deardorj/contents.htm

thanks .....really good reading!
this is also a nice story
http://www.jesus-kashmir-tomb.com/
I could not find any interesting site in english for the travel of mary magdalene to France .....thake care
sv

 

[sac beh]

Isis was also the patron of magic. A witch was a Wisdom teacher of feminine wisdom in the old Pagan religion. Double VVisdom Teacher ~ Isis when she's a Grandma. No longer the Virgin or the maternal Goddess. I think rubbing plant material on their bodies is where the green witch came from. See the statue of Itchel, it looks like a witch, she's old at that point, she's into magic, medicine & midwifery. <<< This is mentioned in the thread & its an important part of the equation. Mesoamerica indulged in it frequently.

Saying that Mesoamericans have indulged in magic, medicine and midwifery just like Isis is like saying they both indulged in the eating of foods and the taking of shits. Anthropologists and archaeologists date the origins of religion to the earliest shamanic behavior which far predates Isis. Isis, Mesoamerica, and modern religions all in fact owe their spiritual techniques of ecstasy and healing to much earlier human cultures, earlier certainly than 10,000 BCE.

I'm not saying that the similarities you cite aren't there, I'm just challenging the implication that the Isis cult was responsible for these.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

thanks .....really good reading!
this is also a nice story
http://www.jesus-kashmir-tomb.com/
I could not find any interesting site in english for the travel of mary magdalene to France .....thake care
sv

Right on, verrry interesting stuff....
Here's the biggest Mary Magdalene site
http://www.magdalene.org/grailbearer.php

And one claiming her to be cleopatra's daughter
http://karmasurfer.blogspot.com/2007/11/who-rules-world.html

 

[sirgrassalot]

Saying that Mesoamericans have indulged in magic, medicine and midwifery just like Isis is like saying they both indulged in the eating of foods and the taking of shits. Anthropologists and archaeologists date the origins of religion to the earliest shamanic behavior which far predates Isis. Isis, Mesoamerica, and modern religions all in fact owe their spiritual techniques of ecstasy and healing to much earlier human cultures, earlier certainly than 10,000 BCE.

I'm not saying that the similarities you cite aren't there, I'm just challenging the implication that the Isis cult was responsible for these.

The mission was to share not replace what was there already. They would have had their own ancestors. You've not paid attention. As to the similarities, they're right on. I'm not sure if El had been there & it was already a part of his far flung Empire. Show us some of any civilization before 10,500 I'll be here waiting. The first Kingdoms on earth were creating by El & his descendants 10,500. Cro-Magnon was in mesoamerica, they're homo sapien not homo sapien sapien.



Salivate like a Pavlov dog.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

We might as well give up, sac beh...
He's got two good eyes but he still won't see...

he is absolutely blind to any facts which contradict his fantasy...
he'll comment with some derisive remark and a few irrelevant falsehoods phrased as questions or musings, but ultimately will never say anything of consequence...

Now he's confused himself so badly as to think his fictitious neolithic El made the journey to the americas in an even more impossible timeline...

Don't forget, sirgrassalot has no interest in this thread to do anything other than entertain himself... which is apparently involves making up stories he refuses to actually ever discuss and flinging half-witted insults...

I guess pointing out the huge holes in his theory is fun wether or not they are acknowledged...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

. Show us some of any civilization before 10,500 I'll be here waiting. The first Kingdoms on earth were creating by El & his descendants 10,500.

http://www.hinduism.co.za/oldest.htm

and

Possible evidence of Ice Age Civilization
in the period of 35,000 to 12,000 years ago include
large stone structures under the sea near Japan,
known as the Japanese Pyramids and called Hiramitsuto,
as to which Shun Daichi says
"There are six places they found structures in the Okinawa area.
One is located in Taiwan. All of them are under the sea.
All the geologists agree that the underwater structures are
at least 12,000 years old."

and

Clear evidence of Ice Age Civilization
in the period of 35,000 to 12,000 years ago
is found in Fukui Cave of Northern Kyushu Island,
the southwesternmost island of Japan,
in the form of Jomon pottery containers, which
(according to Joseph B. Lambert's book
Traces of the Past (Addison-Wesley 1997))
have been dated as slightly later than
12,750 +/- 500 years old,

and
http://www.japanupdate.com/?id=4454

Arbuthnot believes that the findings are not some mystical, bizarre discovery, but that they do support his belief in the theory that a transpacific migration to the Americas was more likely than the current belief that humans made their way across the Bering Strait. He states the similarities between many archeological finds in South America, which seem to be connected to the "Jomon" civilization in Japan. "The Jomon, which inhabited Japan 12,000 years ago and possibly up to 20,000 years ago, are connected with the "Ainu" of northern Japan and with the people of the Ryukyu Islands. They were also the first civilization to have made pottery. A Smithsonian research team found pottery in Ecuador in the 1970's with striking similarities." He also explained that there have been discoveries in both South America and North America of ancient human skulls and bones with closer similarities to the "Jomon" people than that of native American Indians.

"There is much evidence which supports a theory that humans first migrated to South America, and then pushed their way up to North America," he said. "During this time period, the ocean's low sea levels would have made the furthest distance between any two major land areas at only 120 miles, making it very possible for an ocean crossing. You would have been able to see another continent on a clear day."

Although the theory of a transpacific crossing is not widely excepted, new evidence such as two villages discovered on the Pacific rim of Peru, estimated to be 12,000 years old with strong maritime cultures, will open discussion and debate over the issue. If the work of Dr. Kimura and "Team Atlantis" prove to be what they believe are indeed the ruins of an ancient civilization not yet discovered, Okinawa could be a link to many mysteries yet unsolved.

There was civilization in PERU 12,000 years ago... Well before El started the "first" civilization in 10,500...

 

[sirgrassalot]

Essenes ~ Isis, hmmm very close, very very close. I say that as I was reading up on Jisis & found there's much dispute to any place called Nazareth? They're a good band though, holy, holy roller....

The resurrection was carried out by Essenes who wore white & were mistaken for Angels?

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The Egyptian name was recorded as ỉs.t or ȝs.t and meant "(She of the) Throne." The true Egyptian pronunciation remains uncertain, however, because their writing system usually did not feature vowels. Based on recent studies which present us with approximations based on contemporary languages and Coptic evidence, the reconstructed pronunciation of her name is [*ˈʔuː.sat], -Usat. (Osiris's name—that is, -Usir or -Wsir—also starts with the throne glyph ʔs ("-s").) The name survived in Coptic dialects as Ēse or Ēsi, as well as in compound words surviving in names of later people such as "Har-si-Ese", literally, "Horus, son of Isis".

For convenience, Egyptologists arbitrarily choose to pronounce her name as "ee-set". Sometimes they may also say "ee-sa" because the final "t" in her name was a feminine suffix, which is known to have been dropped in speech during the last stages of the Egyptian language.

Literally, her name means "she of the throne". Her original headdress was a throne. As the personification of the throne, she was an important representation of the pharaoh's power, as the pharaoh was depicted as her child, who sat on the throne she provided.

Here's an interesting video. Graham's bent on 10,500. I'm open minded a few years either way don't mean shit.
Graham Hancock - Quest for the Lost Civilization

This one comes highly recommended by sirgrassalot

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Essenes ~ Isis, hmmm very close, very very close.

another False Cognate...

We should make a game of finding all of the false cognates in this thread...

First to 100 wins =]

Now, that's entertainment

 

[Normannen]

what happened to the phoenicians?
Thor Heyerdahl showed that the Egyptians didn't have the naval power to reach into the mediterranean figure the oceans!
for the rest i like the thread's general idea very close to the idea i've developed...what i don't like is all the insults going on...since historians can't get together on one account how arrogant are we to think we can, with internet LINKS???
the past is sooo far and obscure we can't possibly be able to find truth at once.
it will take mankind a lot longer to unveil the truth of our descendants.
so far I'm sure of one thing
"Isis did achieve more through love than war"
it's called the sacred prostitute. the only religious truth out there is that it all started from sex and death and will go back to that again and again and again.

 

[sirgrassalot]

what happened to the Phoenicians?
Thor Heyerdahl showed that the Egyptians didn't have the naval power to reach into the mediterranean figure the oceans!
for the rest i like the thread's general idea very close to the idea i've developed...what i don't like is all the insults going on...since historians can't get together on one account how arrogant are we to think we can, with internet LINKS???
the past is sooo far and obscure we can't possibly be able to find truth at once.
it will take mankind a lot longer to unveil the truth of our descendants.
so far I'm sure of one thing
"Isis did achieve more through love than war"
it's called the sacred prostitute. the only religious truth out there is that it all started from sex and death and will go back to that again and again and again.

Thor Heyerdahl, page 1, the Phoenicians

we touched on those & the Sea's People a little on another thread. They belong here too, I'm interested in all subjects I've touched on in this thread. The internet has just about any book you need online. Someone's upset I've put them on the pay no mind list, eH!

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

did the phoenicians not come onto the scene a bit late to figure into the Isis story?
I really don't know much about them, except the phonetic alphabet came from them...
You have me interested, though...

I did learn that the phoenicians are genetically completely unrelated to the sea people...



Prostitution is the worlds oldest religion, eh

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Thor Heyerdahl, page 1, the Phoenicians we touched on those & the Sea's People a little on another thread. They belong here too.

yes you mentioned thor on page 1... your mention did not address Normannen's comment about Thor's assertion, however... Just like none of your comments address the substantial substance of most of my posts... In fact you claim the opposite "The Egyptians could build better boats that used manpower & wind." when Norm said "Thor Heyerdahl showed that the Egyptians didn't have the naval power to reach into the mediterranean figure the oceans!"

Give us a break here and step back into the real world when you type responses, please...

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Civilization as old as any, and more advanced than mesopotamia or egypt...

A sophisticated and technologically advanced urban culture is evident in the Indus Valley Civilization making them the first urban centers in the region. The quality of municipal town planning suggests the knowledge of urban planning and efficient municipal governments which placed a high priority on hygiene, or, alternately, accessibility to the means of religious ritual.
As seen in Harappa, Mohenjo-daro and the recently partially excavated Rakhigarhi, this urban plan included the world's first known urban sanitation systems. Within the city, individual homes or groups of homes obtained water from wells. From a room that appears to have been set aside for bathing, waste water was directed to covered drains, which lined the major streets. Houses opened only to inner courtyards and smaller lanes. The house-building in some villages in the region still resembles in some respects the house-building of the Harappans.[34]
The ancient Indus systems of sewerage and drainage that were developed and used in cities throughout the Indus region were far more advanced than any found in contemporary urban sites in the Middle East and even more efficient than those in many areas of Pakistan and India today. The advanced architecture of the Harappans is shown by their impressive dockyards, granaries, warehouses, brick platforms and protective walls. The massive walls of Indus cities most likely protected the Harappans from floods and may have dissuaded military conflicts.[citation needed]
The purpose of the citadel remains debated. In sharp contrast to this civilization's contemporaries, Mesopotamia and Ancient Egypt, no large monumental structures were built. There is no conclusive evidence of palaces or temples—or of kings, armies, or priests. Some structures are thought to have been granaries. Found at one city is an enormous well-built bath, which may have been a public bath. Although the citadels were walled, it is far from clear that these structures were defensive. They may have been built to divert flood waters.
Most city dwellers appear to have been traders or artisans, who lived with others pursuing the same occupation in well-defined neighborhoods. Materials from distant regions were used in the cities for constructing seals, beads and other objects. Among the artifacts discovered were beautiful glazed faïence beads. Steatite seals have images of animals, people (perhaps gods) and other types of inscriptions, including the yet un-deciphered writing system of the Indus Valley Civilization. Some of the seals were used to stamp clay on trade goods and most probably had other uses as well.
Although some houses were larger than others, Indus Civilization cities were remarkable for their apparent, if relative, egalitarianism. All the houses had access to water and drainage facilities. This gives the impression of a society with relatively low wealth concentration, though clear social leveling is seen in personal adornments.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesopotamia

The history of ancient Mesopotamia begins with the emergence of urban societies during the Ubaid period, from ca. 5300 BCE.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehrgarh

Mehrgarh, (Urdu: م*ﮩ*رگڑھ ) one of the most important Neolithic (7000 BC to c. 2500 BC) sites in archaeology, lies on what is now the "Kachi plain" of today's Balochistan, Pakistan. It is one of the earliest sites with evidence of farming (wheat and barley) and herding (cattle, sheep and goats) in South Asia."[1].
Located near the Bolan Pass, to the west of the Indus River valley and between the present-day Pakistani cities of Quetta, Kalat and Sibi, Mehrgarh was discovered in 1974 by an archaeological team directed by French archaeologist Jean-François Jarrige, and was excavated continuously between 1974 and 1986. The earliest settlement at Mehrgarh—in the northeast corner of the 495-acre (2.00 km2) site—was a small farming village dated between 7000 BCE–5500 BCE.

 

[Grat3fulh3ad]

Someone's upset I've put them on the pay no mind list, eH!

Nope... It's good of you to not argue with me... at least I know I've still got your attention, enough to bother commenting =]
I could care less if you are closed minded on these topics, my post are evidently (according to private communiqué) helping alot of people see through your misinformation...

I'm having loads of fun freely refuting your silliness completely unmolested...

 

[sirgrassalot]

El's UrRean Empire

El's UrRean Empire

El's far flung Empire of the UrReans...The UrRean Empire is r - ean = area ~ urrea - dry area? UR area? UR how can that be first, I'll need names, Oh yeah, I know there's an UR aka Urim & an Assur in Sumer, any other UR's claiming first status?? Uranus LoL

Just west of Iran, around the Indus valley. This area of rolling hills is where, around 2500 BCE, a large urban civilization emerged at the same time as those of Mesopotamia and the ancient Egyptian empire.

These would have to be descendants of El, if El started his Kingdoms shortly after the melt down 10,500 or so, were some of El's Kingdoms & people wiped out by the melt down or some other catastrophes & it took his descendants thousands of years to start again to degree of what Sumer, Babylon etc became on to the pyramids etc? The Sphinx was said to have been water eroded, Graham dates a lot of these things @ 10,500 BC. Some others are now under the water too? That brings me back to the Olmec, whoever was there & created those huge heads disappeared after a time.

We know El invented agriculture & farming after the flood. If we're talking Kingdoms I'd expect more than mud huts not just some part time hunters & gatherers. I suppose once the population grew large enough & the warring of tribes had subsided for a time being or they could produce enough offspring & food to supply the armies El's people had a chance to put together places like Sumer, Babylon etc. So these are the first civilized Kingdoms on Earth post flood, they got religion, way to go El.

Uru was the Sumerian term for a city or city state, written with the cuneiform ideogram URU.

In Akkadian and Hittite orthography, URU became a determinative sign denoting a city, or combined with KUR "land" the kingdom or territory controlled by a city, e.g. LUGAL KUR URUHa-at-ti "the king of the country of (the city of) Hatti".

There's too many to list Cities of the Ancient Near East

The name Ireland is a form of UrRe-land. The name Eire(ere)(aire) is another UrRe-an name for Ireland.The names Erin (Eireann), Iran and Biblical Aaron are derived from Ur-an, meaning they were sons of Ur the hawk god.

After the melt down of the Ice Age, Assur and his descendants started farming and herding instead of hunting and gathering for their survival. Those were the first agrarian societies. Once they became farmers, they recognized the sun as the source of their sustenance. They became sun worshippers. Hawk imagery was still a part of their old religion. The sound of hawk's wings was still a part of their language. The "sunwing" is a compound symbol of old hawk-god and new sun-god religion.


Dry area, not good for agriculture, El was known to dig irrigation channels, clear the trees etc, just like that mesoamerican god, who's name is on the tip of my tongue. The bearded god Quetzalcoatl that came from the East.

The Plumed Serpent ~ Assur the Dragon.

With the hiss of the scared asp added to its name, the UrRe became the Uraeus.

It's starting to all come together, a few small glitches but that's to be expected in my search. I think my understanding of the Isis myth is she's the ancestral mother of the first double wise homo sapien sapiens.