Autoflowers dont get you high?

[Nicoli]

Hello,

I was at a dispensary today and spoke with the gentleman, asked if he had heard of the autoflowers and if he had any, and he basically told me not to waste my time with them and that they wont even get me high.

Why dont autoflowers get you high? He says they are a novelty item and more for fun than for meds.

So I gotta ask, why are people growing them if they dont get you high?

Thanks!!

 

[Bighill]

He is just a weed snob, they do infact get you high. They are like any other strain you can grow from seed, some phenos are better than others. Some lines have been worked more than others.

I smoke purple kush, OG and green crack all the time, and the snowryder's i just finished got me nice and high. My only complaint was the stay power, i only had one pheno that had a long lasting high.. Still to say they "DON'T" get you high is completly false.

There are new lines that have little to no lowryder in them, these are the more potent AF lines.

 

[S_a_H]

The main problem you are going to find for a few more years to come is that a lot of people have tried Lowryder once and they base all other Autoflowers on that. Now that we are seeing more and more AF's come out they are going to get better.

Thats like growing out a 12/12 strain that turns out crappy and then saying all other 12/12 strains suck.

S_a_H

 

[Mr.Meds]

The main problem you are going to find for a few more years to come is that a lot of people have tried Lowryder once and they base all other Autoflowers on that. Now that we are seeing more and more AF's come out they are going to get better.

Thats like growing out a 12/12 strain that turns out crappy and then saying all other 12/12 strains suck.

S_a_H

These auto-ak47's in the vape are doing the job nicely.

 

[IceColdCrickets]

ya it is funny ,, if i gave you a chunk of NON AF bud and a chunk of AF bud you wouldn't know the difference. I would have to tell you which was which as they both will get you very high. that is the sad thing I have been giving the LR#2 to a shop and telling them it is a type of Skunk. If i told them it was AF they would prolly change thier minds, which is totally bullshit as it is killer.,, it is just a stereotype bro,, dont listen to pot snobs stuck in the old days where AFs where shit. They are killer now and getting better and better!!

 

[vicious bee]

Bullshit. Double Bullshit. Incorrect. False. Nada. The Blue Streak I grew will kick you ass. The Diesel Ryders, while not as good as the Blue Streak, are better than any regular Mexican you'll get on the street. Can't speak for the rest.

 

[eugenegreen]

Oops, realized this was an AF forum... I'll scoot on out of here

*EDIT*

 

[lowrdr]

this fella you spoke to clearly knows nothing

 

[vicious bee]

ya it is funny ,, if i gave you a chunk of NON AF bud and a chunk of AF bud you wouldn't know the difference. I would have to tell you which was which as they both will get you very high. that is the sad thing I have been giving the LR#2 to a shop and telling them it is a type of Skunk. If i told them it was AF they would prolly change thier minds, which is totally bullshit as it is killer.,, it is just a stereotype bro,, dont listen to pot snobs stuck in the old days where AFs where shit. They are killer now and getting better and better!!

I'm curious. In yield per/Watt-Hour does your yield equal a average non-auto strain? Anyone else have ideas on this? All things considered yield per/Watt-Hour if the potency and high are similar autos are probably more interesting to grow.

 

[lowrdr]

from icc's experiments ive seen autos pull more gram per watt than regulars !

 

[kannubis]

Got a few of Maffe's lowrider seeds at the bay, 2 waves of them going now. Oldest 2 fems are about 5 weeks in, they were smaller than the next set at the 2 week point. Nice little plants to fill-in the spaces and play with. The second batch males are in with the older fems now, so might get some more seeds to play with.
I want to get some pollen to my Casey Jones, but is a week into 12/12 too early?

 

[JamieShoes]

I've grown them and I've smoked them... anyone telling you AFs dont get you high is either full of shit or cant grow marijuana properly.. or both


YIELD was affected (for me*) with AFs, but not potency... those old views of early ruderalis crosses are about as relevant as last years lotto numbers




*I most likely stunted them by not understanding the importance of a more caring regime... if u stunt em they dont recover much.. (light shocks, re potting, temp shocks etc - without these issues I hear they produce quite well) I've seen elsewhere that people disagree with the "double potting method" (ie placing the old pot ontop of a new one with the bottm cut out in a "stack effect" and those people say this method is lazy... well I've seen mdanzig using this method and for sure it's not because he lazy... the double potter is an excellent way to avoid getting transplant shock in AFs...

 

[vicious bee]

Got a few of Maffe's lowrider seeds at the bay, 2 waves of them going now. Oldest 2 fems are about 5 weeks in, they were smaller than the next set at the 2 week point. Nice little plants to fill-in the spaces and play with. The second batch males are in with the older fems now, so might get some more seeds to play with.
I want to get some pollen to my Casey Jones, but is a week into 12/12 too early?

I hope you take a couple of pictures and post a smoke report on these. I have some of these but haven't the space to run them right now. Would be really interested in how you grew them and how they came out.

 

[Xtensity]

He obviously thought you were talking about the common wild ruderalis, the shitty weed that grows wild that has a .01% THC rating.

Most of the autoflowering strains now have somewhere around 15%+ THC rating, which around 20% is considered a 1 hit wonder to most people....

Basically, if you're going to a dispensary there's no point in asking for an autoflowering strain unless you plan on growing specifically. There's nothing that an auto-flower high can give you that a normal indica or sativa can't

 

[Castelvetro]

forget the imaginary thc reading seedbanks give out, there way overated n largely myth. autos are part garbage, its just that simple. half ditch half cannabis cup winner quality you do the math.

no matter how u breed garbage with gold u always get part garbage. autos get u baked, much like commercial weed.

expect some decent to good smoke in 70 days aint much to complain about, but if your serious about growing theres no reason to run them, out doors yes. inside u have much better options.

and they wont really be getting much better, its really hard to only get the auto gene and not the low potency , low bud weight gene from the ruderalis.

ive smoked 3 very pop autos, i enjoyed them but commerical erb will get u just as high most of the time.

 

[IceColdCrickets]

forget the imaginary thc reading seedbanks give out, there way overated n largely myth. autos are part garbage, its just that simple. half ditch half cannabis cup winner quality you do the math.

no matter how u breed garbage with gold u always get part garbage. autos get u baked, much like commercial weed.

expect some decent to good smoke in 70 days aint much to complain about, but if your serious about growing theres no reason to run them, out doors yes. inside u have much better options.

and they wont really be getting much better, its really hard to only get the auto gene and not the low potency , low bud weight gene from the ruderalis.

ive smoked 3 very pop autos, i enjoyed them but commerical erb will get u just as high most of the time.

Your statements show that you KNOW NOTHING about breeding so keep your GARBAGE bullshit to yourself. Get a book and learn about breeding and how you can breed out all the GARBAGE you speak of,, if they couldn't get better and better then what the fuck have I been doing all these yrs. Breeding and making the same bullshit same potency,blah blah blah, YEAH right that is what i have been doing ... GET A CLUE!!!

ICC!

 

[Xtensity]

forget the imaginary thc reading seedbanks give out, there way overated n largely myth. autos are part garbage, its just that simple. half ditch half cannabis cup winner quality you do the math.

no matter how u breed garbage with gold u always get part garbage. autos get u baked, much like commercial weed.

expect some decent to good smoke in 70 days aint much to complain about, but if your serious about growing theres no reason to run them, out doors yes. inside u have much better options.

and they wont really be getting much better, its really hard to only get the auto gene and not the low potency , low bud weight gene from the ruderalis.

ive smoked 3 very pop autos, i enjoyed them but commerical erb will get u just as high most of the time.

Just because you've smoked 3 popular autos doesn't mean anything. How do you the person who grew them knew what they were doing? You know nothing about breeding, breeding doesn't happen over nights, it's a long process which involves trashing many plants with many different phenotypes until you get what you are looking for. With careful enough breeding you can get exactly the traits that you want and completely remove the traits you do not want from the gene pool. After it gets the genes it wants in and out of a specific plant the plant can be imbred to stabalize it, to make it so as long as it's bred with the same strain, the genetics wont change. A well stabilized strain will get you bud of the same potency, yield, color etc almost every time.

Learn about breeding a little more before you go spouting assumptions you made based off possibly poorly grown weed.

 

[*mr.mike*]

forget the imaginary thc reading seedbanks give out, there way overated n largely myth. autos are part garbage, its just that simple. half ditch half cannabis cup winner quality you do the math.

no matter how u breed garbage with gold u always get part garbage. autos get u baked, much like commercial weed.

expect some decent to good smoke in 70 days aint much to complain about, but if your serious about growing theres no reason to run them, out doors yes. inside u have much better options.

and they wont really be getting much better, its really hard to only get the auto gene and not the low potency , low bud weight gene from the ruderalis.

ive smoked 3 very pop autos, i enjoyed them but commerical erb will get u just as high most of the time.

Congratulations for being absolutely ignorant of the topic you're writing about. There are autos that are as strong, if not stronger than a lot of seeds sold through major breeders.

It only takes a few crosses of an af to a premium strain before the cross is at 90% of the desired parent, and it's all basic cannabis genetics.

 

[Castelvetro]

forget the imaginary thc reading seedbanks give out, there way overated n largely myth. autos are part garbage, its just that simple. half ditch half cannabis cup winner quality you do the math.

no matter how u breed garbage with gold u always get part garbage. autos get u baked, much like commercial weed.

expect some decent to good smoke in 70 days aint much to complain about, but if your serious about growing theres no reason to run them, out doors yes. inside u have much better options.

and they wont really be getting much better, its really hard to only get the auto gene and not the low potency , low bud weight gene from the ruderalis.

ive smoked 3 very pop autos, i enjoyed them but commerical erb will get u just as high most of the time

 

[cyber echo]

Hey man ,,, read ICC's post about creating elite AF strains.

Your assumption that AFs will always be of lower potency is false. There is no reason why you cannot breed strong potency genetics into AFs and lock them in. It just takes time to stabilize multiple traits (shape,vigor,potency,taste/smell,AF trait,etc..) at the same time and this is all about the breeder's skills and sometimes luck, and space.