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[Mr.Bill]

GB x GF mother plant Post

GB x GF mother plant Post

Before We get to the carnage that occured to the GrapefruitDiesel plant let's turn our attention to the Godberry x Grapefruit mother plant.

Lets start out when I pulled her out of the cardboard box she sat in for six days. There was very little damage. I had trimmed her up before I left.

And once I got some time it was back to her training. Started by wrapping up her arms. How I did it was crushing the little arms just a little bit to soften them up making it easier to wrap around each other and to accelerate the speed of the wrapped branches turning woody. It should be pretty cool once they grow into each other and become one branch in a year or two. Any way, lots of time for talking about her growth design for her life span. I will say that at this point there are two designs I'm mulling over still.

Left it at this point for a week to let the branches heal a little bit before I continued training.

The training continues. Re-wrapped the branches a little better now that the branches have healed a little bit. I had to be much more careful on the first wrap because how soft I made them. Also Added anchors to the branches to make them level out and move away from each other in this stage of training. I used a bunch of twist ties for all this because they are easily adjustable, just twist. The anchors will stay until the next step in training, one to two months away.

A week after anchoring she began to show a deficiency, so I flushed her out and reset the nutrients. A few days later progression had stopped and a few days later it looked mostly healed, few days later it looked fine, that was a couple days ago.

And of course in this picture one of her anchors had popped off prompting me to re adjust the anchors positions.

Well that's it for now on her. I will be starting a journal for her so you can follow how she has been doing over the years without having to go through the thread.

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[Dr Dog]

YO
SB

Sorry to hear about your dilemna dude, but glad to hear you got it all sorted out

crazy looking bondage you are sporting...looking forward to the rest of the show

 

[Mr.Bill]

T- Yah man it took a while to get back, longer than I had thought to be honest. I'll get back to you about the trim room thing thing. I still have to put up that last post I got, and catch up on everyones threads. But We'll hook up about it.


Dr.Dog- Oh thanks man. Not really a dilemma, more of avoiding one. I guess though that you could call the condition of GrapefruitDiesel plant became a dilemma. You'll see in a few.

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Sorry about not getting that third post up. Had some company, then it got late and didn't have the motivation to get it up. But I'm getting on that right now.

 

[Tonatiuh]

fasho...

 

[Mr.Bill]

GrapefruitDiesel

GrapefruitDiesel

So here we are at the carnage. And it gets major ugly. So you may want to put in a mouth guard to protect your teeth from cringing so much. But to fret too much it ends positively... Enough.

I just want to say that once I got back realizing just how far behind I was on posting up on here so there is going to be a sizable difference in growth. At one point I had to delete all the pics because some family came to visit and had to show em all the pics in the camera, so lost a couple of weeks of growth before the move. So its gotten a little bigger since then. Well there is a lot of pictures to show on this post so I think we should get right to it.

Part of all this is my fault. First I took it out of the cardboard box it was in. Changed the water out. Power washed the roots with the shower(there was root rot type damage to these as well, I actually had to cut a chunk of the root system out, but that was a week or so later). Well here she is straight out of the box, you can kind of see the damage. I'm sure the Ph was mad off, and a very low oxygen level, not to mention zero light for six days in temps that would drop to the low 30's.

And like the impatient person I am stuck it directly under the 400 and cfl combo. Bad move, she was weak and hadn't had any light on her, it didn't help matters, that's for sure. Shoulda just put her under a few smaller cfls, to get her acclimated to the light.

These are a couple days after putting it in and it progresses from there. A couple of them might be out of place or it might skip to another day without me catching it.

The majority of the damage peaked right around these pictures here. There was additional damage however, most damage progression however had stopped. This is where I washed the roots again and trimmed some out.

You can really see in this picture where I was talking the damage peaking. The dead portion is very evident at the stopping of progression. And the major greening returning, but you can also see where there will be a little bit more additional damage. Honestly for the first few days watching her shrivel up and die back, not sure if she was going to make it came to mind more than a couple times.

Her base has gotten pretty large, its even larger under the hydroton.

This is when I knew she was going to live. Although I didn't know if her new growth was going to be dwarfed or not yet due to the incident. Notice the new healthy growth.

A couple random damage shots.

And then bam, about a week and a half after getting her rollling again, and the damage has finally been on the mend, what hell shows it's face. PM for real this time.

Continued next post.
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[Mr.Bill]

Continued

Continued

I'll tell yah, my intro to hydro has been just rittled with problems, this though, I will say this is by far the most problematic. Not only can it screw up this plant, it could fuck with my cab for life, on top of all that it screw up my little mama plant, which will actually piss me off the most. Thankfully she still hasn't shown any signs of pm, I have been treating her preventatively, you know JustinCase. But I'm riding this GrapefruitDiesel plant to the end come hell or high water. What I have been doing was every 3 days treat her with this for the first week and have backed down to once every 5 days, I bleach washed all equipment, and the box itself and put it back together. Once the Grapefruit Diesel finishes she finishes I will break the cab down bleach wash the equipment again, leave the equipment open, put in a space heater and raise the temps over 90* for a week to ten days, then I will repaint the cab with the mold resistant paint, bleach wash the equipment one last time and put it back together. Back to pics.

I add a drop or two of soap just to ensure it sticks to the leaves. After the first time of using it I decided to add it more for piece of mind than anything else. Also I use a two liter bottle for the mix. The reason why I do it like this is because on the first mix I used exactly one liter of water and the appropriate mix ratio of serenade, and later mixes I eyeball it to the same concentration, thus the extra space, so I can add that extra water. I'm lazy. But I bet my ratios are still pretty close to the first mix.

You can see though that the plants health has dramatically improved, considering.

O.k. so the damage has stopped all together, I don't want all the dead crap all over the plant, inviting even more possible problems, and pests not to mention the mess when it all falls off. So it's time for a trim. Here she is going in.

And here she is just after her haircut. I did lose one branch in the middle of the plant. Well I just decided to snip it, it was so damaged. I did miss a couple spots on her, but I got them later.

Heres a couple of root shots, you can see the roots got quite stained sitting in that stagnant water for almost a week. There is quite a bit of new growth now, and I'll try to get some shots next time. These are a little bit older.

Here is her undercarriage the day I flipped her, 12/19

She's got a pretty even canopy.

From above, I think she turned out pretty o.k. considering. She should harvest fairly well. She's a little over 21" round give or take an inch either way with I dont know how many tops making up the crown. You'd have to count them out. They are all pretty much even. Should make a nice crown.

Well thanks everyone for checking out what's been going on. I hope all that are celebrating this holiday season whatever it is your celebrating, that you are celebrating it well and with the ones you love. Remember to drive safe out there, just because your in control doesn't mean they are.

Happy Holidays
Everyone
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[Hydrosun]

Just goes to show that a weed can not die if you show it love!

Peace,

 

[Tonatiuh]

very very nice man,i think she will do just fine.especialy with you at the helm,she gonna do fantastic.im pretty sure you can add some peroxide in moderate amout to ur bucket and get them roots nice and white again if you want to.im not sure of the ratio but im sure a quick search would get it for you.lovin the work ethic man.Merr Christmas my brother,we been cool a long time on these boards yo..yet another christmas goes by,hope you have a bomb one my friend.peace-T-

 

[Mr.Bill]

Hydrosun- And a little luck, can't forget that. It was a close one.

T- Yah I'm not fretting over the staining too much, I might do that though with the peroxide. It has been a few christmases hasn't it. Wishing only the best for ya.

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

Hey Bill, first let me say Merry Xmas and Happy Holidaze...Sorry to see that u r havin some issues with the 'dro goodness, but she seems to be comin along nicely and Im sure will give u a bountiful harvest!! Im really missin the growin right now, but I have more presssing things to tend to unfortunately!!! I do seem to recall someone sayin they were gonna PM me, wink, wink!!! Hope to hear from u soon bro, take care...Peace


- Z

 

[Mr.Bill]

Zeus- Happy Holidays to you too man. Yah man I haven't had this many problems with a plant since I was back in highschool. Oh well, it can't always go right. In her defense, she has gone through quite a lot, she should yield ok, I lost count at 24 tops. I bet you are missing growing, it really gets in your blood, no doubt. I need to do so many things on here, but like you said priorities, I feel like a juggler atm, let me tell you. I will bro, I will.

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So where to start today. Hmm, lets start with the GBxGF mom, she looks about the same, still no signs of pm, but she is still being treated every few days just-in-case, so I won't really know if she's been affected until after treatments stop. One more twist has been added to each branch. Shes still showing deff. as she is in a colder enviornment under one 23w bulb about 5 feet away, her nodes are still tight though, she sits on top of the toilet, that's her spot. Everybody that uses the restroom thinks it's pretty awesome, with the exception of maw dukes who just rolled her eyes.

You can see how her training wires have been moved(mentioned in last post with her in it)

Can't really see the new twist but it's there

Still pretty even

Here you can see mild def. but it's of no consequence, she's still pretty healthy and no cuttings will be taken from her until late Jan. So plenty of time to get her ship shape.

O.k. moving on to the Grapefruit Diesel plant. First up some root shots. You can see if you look back at the last root shots the huge chunk of roots I had to cut off. The bottoms of the root ball had to be removed. The root system is a little smaller than I'd like it to be but hey, whatever, it's not that bad considering of the time spent stagnant, and the chunk removed, it would be much larger I'm sure if it didn't spend a week in limbo, I just want to get this plant done so I can start throwing new beans without worry of them catching a case of pm.

Here she is on the 25th getting her treatment(6 days after flip). She's about half the size of a bathtub. I can fit two of these in the cab. So now the only thing missing is the screen that will be used, not on this grow, but subsequent grows will be screened. You'll see.

Not sure just how many tops there are here, I lost count at 24, by then I forget which ones I've counted and which ones I haven't.

Couple days later in the cab

There are about 4" worth of nodes, half way through the stretch, so she should have about 8-10" worth of buds, once she gets done.

Her canopy is still very even, within 1/2in. of each other with a couple exceptions.

Looking up through the canopy. The penetration is still good, almost every leaf gets some direct light.

Another shot of her in the cab. I'm missing one of my light splitters and have been too lazy to go get a one, that's why the one cfl is level, I'm sure it'll turn up eventually. The platform in there is where I put the mom plant for a few hours every once in a while to get her some real juice on her. Usually right after a treatment on both plants.

Here's the base of her. It's a little over an inch in diameter. I think she would be thicker if she wasn't buried under the hydroton. I could be wrong though.

Here's something weird, one leaf on the whole plant has this occurance. It must be some type of chemical burn from the pm treatments. Not really sure though, the leaf is healthy, just kind of bleached.

A little closer

And lastly I would like to go through the wiring inside the cab. It looks kind of messy but it's really not. I have no quams about leaving the power strip on top of the hood, as the hood is barely even warm to the touch. The big black cord running through the bottom of the picture is the line coming from the hood and the coiled green cord on the left is the 6" booster fan that is plugged directly into the plug receptacle in the cab, not into the power strip, it runs 24/7. Also after reviewing the photos below that I need to dust the hood.

These two plugs belong to the 6" clip fan and the bubbles. These run 24/7

This line belongs the the daisy chained 4in booster fans. Also on 24/7

Next is the first of the two timers, and this one is the lines of the cfl's, the timer runs 1/2 hour on, 1 hour off, through the 12 hour cycle, then remains off the second twelve hours... Obviously.

And the second timer belongs to the wind tunnel and the 10in fan on the floor, this timer runs 13 hours on / 11 off. It comes on a half hour before lights on and turns off a half hour after lights off.

Well that's it for today, Hope everyone celebrated their holidays well. And a Happy New Year to all.​

 

[khaleel]

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love the chirstmas bondage shots. stuff gets me aroused. lol

hope all is well friend ladies looking like a nice recovery. good work

 

[Mr.Bill]

Thanks Leel. That little momma is coming along well, I've done some new things to her, I'll get pics up in a couple days. Hope your doing well.

Let's get right to it.

Jan1

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Right

Just about done stretching. She has gotten fairly thick.

Canopy level

Her Belly, Scoob standing guard. We had a little accident squeezing her back into the cab. That's why the splint. She doesn't really like getting in and out much anymore.

Getting ready to pop. Happy New Year

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Dec. 3rd

Right after her trimming and her treatment. I took about an inch, inch and a half off the bottom. You can tell she has been roughed up a little.

Again her undercarriage, after bottom trim as mentioned above.

Soaking up the love.

Another canopy shot from the long view. She has elongated in the last week, about 21" x 26". I'm actually kind of surprised how even she has managed to stay considering the only training has been branch bending (making knots to control direction), no wires or screen, just lots of knots.

That's it from me today. Again I have a new update on the mom I'll get put up in the next day or two... Probably two.

What?

 

[Dr Dog]

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love the chirstmas bondage shots. stuff gets me aroused. lol

hope all is well friend ladies looking like a nice recovery. good work

I was just thinking the same thing

wish I had the patience to do that much, mine just tend up being a couple tie downs

 

[Mr.Bill]

Yah it's gonna get crazy in the next six months to year with this bondaged girl Dr.D. You know it's funny it's not all that much work really, a little here, a little there, it's the most fun I've had with a pot plant in years. Of course this could all go horribly wrong once they start growing into each other in the twists. Branches could just get squeezed off killing the whole branch and effectively killing the whole plant. I don't think so though, I think they will just grow into one cool looking thick branch much like a tree does when two branches grow together.

So lots changed with the mother plant. First I trimmed her up, then removed the old ties and moved them to the newer twists, then I took the two twisted branches and wrapped them around each other Effectively making 4 branches into two. So we've gone from 8 to 4 to 2 branches.

Then I took the longest single branch of the four on each side and doubled them back towards the center. Leaving three on each side, these will be braided going straight up for about 3 inches.

And here's just about how she looks now. You can see that most of the ties are towards the outter edges and the center is much clearer of ties.

Her first main knot that was at one time a 90* bend but is now more in the neighborhood of 45* but it's still one fat knot.

And I added one back anchor to keep the main stalk straight from all of the pull on the front two anchors so that in 6-10 months when I release the front two anchors it will hopefully stay where it is supposed to.

I should get my first cuts off of her maybe Late Jan. to mid Feb. from the two branches heading towards the center.

I'll throw in a couple shots of the Grapefruit Diesel and her roots tomorrow.
Late
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[Tonatiuh]

woooohaaa,i missed the last update yo,it was a bad ass too.shes getting HUGE.
i cant wait to see her in all her glory around week 7 when she fat as a mf .
lovin the bondage on the mom too.
looks like shes a lil freak and is lovin the ties and torture too.
awesome show as always.this thread dont get the amount of action it deserves,lots to be learned already in here and only page 8.
peace-T-

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

dude youre fuckin nuts with the lst!!! looks killer man, cant wait to se what she ends up doin with all those bends and ties, prolly gonna yeild HUGE and frosty from all the bondage...you know all the ladies love to be tied down every once in a while!!!LOL Peace broham

- Z

 

[Mr.Bill]

T - Thanks man, ya she loves it I think. She's going to look freakin awesome come this time next year. The diesel plant has gotten rather large, I can't wait till a few days before harvest. As far as this thread not getting attention, you know me, I'm not worried. Once it hits halfway through flower, then it'll pick up in here, even more so once I start getting a cycle running through and somethings flowering all the time (even if it doesn't that's ok too, I got my peeps who pop through from time to time:friends.

Zeus- Yah she will be something to see when she flowers out, that won't be for quite a long time though, I sure hope she likes being tied down, she will be for the majority of her life in one way or another. Sorry I haven't gotten back to you man, it completely slipped my mind.

 

[Mr.Bill]

These pics are from a couple days ago.

The roots have exploded in the last week and a half. She drinks about half a gallon of water a day. I just add fresh solution daily and do a full change once a week.

 

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Inspiring thread mr.bill