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blazingtimes

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Always interesting to hear from commercial growers and their use of ADvanced nutrients...as a small timer, that's a whole other world to me...

neat thread.:tree:
 

cannaboy

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Advanced Nutrients have a select range of products to suit all people even stuff to fit with other ranges by growers that use another company's and mix & match YOU complain but who cares,, I like free nutrients its the best stuff but plain and simple. you get more of a selection from Advanced and can mix and match and remember not everything needs to be fed so dont be fooled by them as manny a thing do the same job I use carboload Pirana f1 h2 organic b iguana sensizym all different and organic and I also have some rhinoskin bigbud hammerhead budblood voodoo, all are essential in my eyes the last batch is for the $$$$$
 

w33d

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To put out a thought.... perhaps a botanist would better explain this than I but here goes....

Ask a farmer whether it matters what type of nitrogen he gives his corn. Urea pellets / 28% / ammonia. Do any of them produce better corn? Unfortunately there is no magic to the way a plant grows, only science, and the answer is no. None of the different fertilizer types produce anything but what the genetics of the corn can produce. The only thing the farmer really needs to consider is the price, provided he understands what it is he is putting on his plants.

Healthy plants produce quality buds. Learn to manage your plants and you will not curse any brand of nutrient.

Again I am not a botanist so who knows :)
 

JeanTonerre

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i use advanced nutrients ( most of the nutes go see my journal VIOLATOR KUSH GROW WITH ADVANCED) , i have to say that i am totally satisfied with that... me and my friend are growing the same strains, me with complete advanced formula, and him with canna..... hell yeah ! I WILL SEE THE DIFFERENCE, i will come back here to say wich one was the better
 
hears some of my buds using advanced nutes.
 

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laserbrn

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Oh man, don't show big ass donkey dick buds using AN, they will just come in and claim somehow your strain selection has everything to do with it. Haha...the haters will always hate, the rest of us can go on growin' and reaping the benefits. The only downside I see to AN: The non-AN users will spit hate at you without any reason or logic. They won't bother TRYING the products, just spittin nonsense, so don't show those big awesome buds around here....haha.


Good shit brotha, nice lookin' colas.
 

TriIron

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HAHA! Another disgruntled AN user blaming their shitty product for a mediocre crop. go get some pure blend pro or foxfarm and try it again. Sorry, but whoever convinced you to use AN in the first place, whether it be a shop owner or their ridiculous ads, saw you coming... from miles away.

FAIL! You were the MF that sold me on it!! LMAO. I've long since switched away...
 

TriIron

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And glad to see things seem to be back to normal, people hating on you for telling it like it is. Hope things are well for you toohigh.
 

toohighmf

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That's nice. I didn't say not to use it. I said use it quickly because it goes bad after you open it. Also, you guys think when I see nice huge colas it must be generic yielders.. And they are... So. What have any of you learned? I learned that there are a lot of suckers who trust the marketing campaign. Good on you! You buy products because they claim they are cannabis specific & you believe it! Good for AN. Go pat yourselves on the back, as I'm not going to do it for you. :)
 

Socomvet

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I know a grow shop that refuses to carry AN. The owner says that it's just overpriced overhyped, run of the mill stuff. He feels like selling AN to his customers is stealing from them.
I know a shop owner who wont carry AN just because of how they advertise and link themselves directly with weed. Not like some other companys who just hint at it.
 

cultiv8

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To put out a thought.... perhaps a botanist would better explain this than I but here goes....

Ask a farmer whether it matters what type of nitrogen he gives his corn. Urea pellets / 28% / ammonia. Do any of them produce better corn? Unfortunately there is no magic to the way a plant grows, only science, and the answer is no. None of the different fertilizer types produce anything but what the genetics of the corn can produce. The only thing the farmer really needs to consider is the price, provided he understands what it is he is putting on his plants.

Healthy plants produce quality buds. Learn to manage your plants and you will not curse any brand of nutrient.

Again I am not a botanist so who knows :)

There's actually a much simpler explanation for that.

Farmers want to bring a crop to market at the greatest profit. Ever hear of a corn connoisseur? Me neither. There just isn't a demand ultra-premium corn. The people buying the corn from the farmers want it within a certain range of traits because it's all going into machines for processing. Too much or too little sugar and it's no good. Too large an ear, no good. Too large a kernel, no good... and so on.

It's not in the farmer's interest to grow gigantic corn. The cost to improve the quality exceeds the improvement in sale price. So the farmer just wants to get the most regular-looking corn he can per acre.

And frankly if weed were legal that would be the best way to grow it as well. Uber yield and quality is most important when you have extremely limited growing space. If you could grow 40 acres of weed how important would it be that every plant have perfect nutrition? Want to increase your yield? Just plant more.
 
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Hey rmccinc, I took a peek at your setup and you're dialed right in.

You didn't really answer my question so I'll fill in a few of the blanks.

You have 16,000 watts so at 1 g/w that will yeild about 36 lbs over 3 rooms which costs $800 per room in nutes.

That breaks down to $67 per lb and $4 per oz to use the AN lineup.

When the street value of weed is $60/8, $480/oz, and $7680/lb then the value of the nutrients is only 0.8%.

Even when you can only sell at $200/oz, your nute costs represent only 2% of this value.

It makes a difference when you see how much something truly costs when the numbers are worked out. I'd hate to see small growers turned off good nutes because someone thinks the price is too high without giving a good comparison to judge by.

hey eger i have a grow show over in the indoor hydro section called 16,000 watt wharehouse part one. i do weekly report of all my ups and downs of pulling off a large warehouse grow. I'll be posting new pics and report by thursday as i enter our 6th week of flower. when i first started this thread i mislabled the title it should of actually said 24,000 watt warehouse grow because that's how much lighting were actually using.

redgreenry: i do run quit a rather large system I'm running 3 16x20 rooms with 30 plants per room ranging from 5 to 6ft tall . and we suck up as much as 100 gallons of nutes per week per room when in flower. thats how i get $800 per room per cycle. talk about alot of nutes. i buy my 3 part in the 2 1/2 gallon sizes and all my additives by the gallon.





hears a link to my thread http://icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=142101
 

hookahma

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Hey rmccinc, I took a peek at your setup and you're dialed right in.

You didn't really answer my question so I'll fill in a few of the blanks.

You have 16,000 watts so at 1 g/w that will yeild about 36 lbs over 3 rooms which costs $800 per room in nutes.

That breaks down to $67 per lb and $4 per oz to use the AN lineup.

When the street value of weed is $60/8, $480/oz, and $7680/lb then the value of the nutrients is only 0.8%.

Even when you can only sell at $200/oz, your nute costs represent only 2% of this value.

It makes a difference when you see how much something truly costs when the numbers are worked out. I'd hate to see small growers turned off good nutes because someone thinks the price is too high without giving a good comparison to judge by.

only 2% for nute costs sounds really low - and totally worth it...

I guess I could stand to spend a little more money if I look at it this way. Hmm, now I just have to choose something else to add to my schedule...

:smokeit: merry holiday every1!
 

mjcrusader

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There's actually a much simpler explanation for that.

Farmers want to bring a crop to market at the greatest profit. Ever hear of a corn connoisseur? Me neither. There just isn't a demand ultra-premium corn. The people buying the corn from the farmers want it within a certain range of traits because it's all going into machines for processing. Too much or too little sugar and it's no good. Too large an ear, no good. Too large a kernel, no good... and so on.

It's not in the farmer's interest to grow gigantic corn. The cost to improve the quality exceeds the improvement in sale price. So the farmer just wants to get the most regular-looking corn he can per acre.

And frankly if weed were legal that would be the best way to grow it as well. Uber yield and quality is most important when you have extremely limited growing space. If you could grow 40 acres of weed how important would it be that every plant have perfect nutrition? Want to increase your yield? Just plant more.

ah, i can't wait for the day when weed is legal.

Just think of the buds we'll all be growing then...course, i got a pretty good setup going now, but it would be super cool to share it with everyone else.

imagine all those abandoned lots that are everywhere, being put to good use in growing medicinal MJ.

I actually really think that high quality nutes are on the cutting edge right now, even if they can't always talk about what they're for. Gotta say, companies like advanced nutrients are ballsy for coming out and starting the talk about MJ growing. I mean, without nute companies to get the discussion going, nothing is ever going to change

keep teh dialogue going everyone

+rep to cultiv8

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Great White & Oregonism XL are these not both the same thing? thought they were both mycro?
 
I worked in the nutrient industry.
Advanced nutreints=Russian Mafia
I wouldn't support them regardless of the results.
I'm just saying.
 
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