Skunkman Sam's Secret Dry Sift 2009

[ganja din]

a picture speaks a thousand words mate.as for 20-30% more thc on flowers thanks to uv-b what bullshit they only way i know of changing thc is BREEDING.i would love some off the stuff your smoking mate lol.RESIN SEEKER

Would you kindly show me references to you claim about UV-b? You are totally ignorant and yet your proud of it. I can provide over a DOZEN journal articles and other authoritative info showing the FACT about THC increase. Please, go do some research (not on icmag or ANY other pot forum), and you will find you totally incorrect.

You are also wrong about breeding for THC increase! THC is a product of phenotype, while CHEMOTYPE (I, II, or III) is a product of breeding, not environ(genitically fixed). Now google "chemotype" so you'll have a clue about what I am writing.

This is exactly what bothers me, people without a clue claiming non-facts as facts! You should now your facts before posting...and always offer references!

Ps. I'm sure you will want to grow what I breed, I am going to do things on a cellular level (among other methods) that NO BREEDER has ever done, including sam (AFAIK).


And how does one take a picture of THC increase??? They cant that's how! THC is really "total THC" which is THC-A + THC. No one generally measure only THC, tho I am going to with a THC-A and THCA-A standards. THC increases but trichs do not increase in number AFAIK...

 

[resin seeker]

whats wrong mate i hit a nerve lol ganja din the mad cannabis expert with no pics lol.Post some pics of ur projects then i will talk with u mate.RESIN SEEKER

 

[Babbabud]

Pictures pictures pictures

Pictures pictures pictures

FYI, I do grow, and get at least 1.5 gpw/60 days. I know I can achieve 2-3 gpw/60 days with real organics (no BS hype from grow stores) and 40-50% more TLC on leaf and 20-30% more THC on flowers thanks to UV-b which I have all figured out (as far as possible ATM).

And I very highly doubt sam will have done more for cannabis growing than I will. Not even taking into consideration his so-called "secrets" he hoards...

Here is just two areas (of the dozens of other areas) were I will surpass sam and everyone else who has ever grown cannabis (AFAIK): chromotype and chemotype breeding

Ps. I see you made no mention of sams name calling. Its very convient for you to just ignore that fact, eh? __________________

As they say in the chatroom pics or aint true.

 

[englishrick]

@enlgish_whatever,

I was and still am not one who likes sam. I was perfectly polite and respectful to everyone. Not until sam blew up did I loose respect for him. And yes, I would laugh in his face. Respect isn't freely given, its earned...

Ps. That lame PM you sent me was dumb. was it really worth the effort? (Defriended)

bro,,,^^^you might very well be a better dude than sam,,,,,,but please alow us to apreceate you!!,,,,give us reason,,,,as you said ,,,respect is earned

im a real friend to you,,,,,please dont get angry at me

i could help you channel your ideas,,,

 

[ureapwhatusow]

Would you kindly show me references to you claim about UV-b? You are totally ignorant and yet your proud of it. I can provide over a DOZEN journal articles and other authoritative info showing the FACT about THC increase. Please, go do some research (not on icmag or ANY other pot forum), and you will find you totally incorrect.

You are also wrong about breeding for THC increase! THC is a product of phenotype, while CHEMOTYPE (I, II, or III) is a product of breeding, not environ(genitically fixed). Now google "chemotype" so you'll have a clue about what I am writing.

This is exactly what bothers me, people without a clue claiming non-facts as facts! You should now your facts before posting...and always offer references!

Ps. I'm sure you will want to grow what I breed, I am going to do things on a cellular level (among other methods) that NO BREEDER has ever done, including sam (AFAIK).


And how does one take a picture of THC increase??? They cant that's how! THC is really "total THC" which is THC-A + THC. No one generally measure only THC, tho I am going to with a THC-A and THCA-A standards. THC increases but trichs do not increase in number AFAIK...

lmao


thats why all the headiest growers rock the phototron

one day you young internet folk may come to realize that old tomes of the 1900s from ed, mel and others used flouros in shelf gardening and as side lighting

you havent changed the world by finding new tech

shits older than the internet and the numbers you state are not the observed differential reflected by the findings the the its practical application in the community

 

[Zeinth]

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chemotype? thought it was phenotype? and genotype..

uvb..and other compounds can stimulate tricomb production...but..still..lets have some talk on making thc deta 1.6.9 from olivitolic acid...

 

[ganja din]

@ bubbabud,

Pics won't show that, you'll have to take me on my word. Last harvest was 2 lbs for 600 watt with 4 LUI and 3 agent orange. I can upload pics of huge buds, but that isn't really proof.

I achieve that yield mostly due to special photoperiod of 8/12 first two weeks during stretch, then 18/14 for the rest of flowering, idea temp (82-83'F) and co2 (700-1500 ppm) and ideal PPFD (photosynthetic photon flux density) of 1300-1500. I use other unique methods, but I'm tried and want to fall asleep.

Once I start chromotype breeding I should reach up to, and possibly over 3 gpw/60 days. Not to mention a HUGE increase in THC, more vigorous and bigger plant among other benefits not found from any other breeder...


@ englishrick,

I'm sorry, my bad. I thought you were dissing me with your PM. I don't want to chase you off or be a di*k. Thanks for explaning to me, I jumped the gun on you.

 

[Babbabud]

So your buds go back into veg for their extra growth... bet that taste great ... I would love to see what the buds look like Lets see some pics ? Its a simple enough request .

 

[resin seeker]

for some one doing all this research and then going to start ur own site and start breeding sounds like bullshit to me mate.plus has no pics to back it up sounds dodgy to say the least.lets get the thread back on track and talk about resin and how we can make the best.RESIN SEEKER

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Here is just two areas (of the dozens of other areas) were I will surpass sam and everyone else who has ever grown cannabis (AFAIK): chromotype and chemotype breeding

I write in a fashion that many people take as arrogant, even tho I am not.

I laughed so hard I have to change my pants... be right back...

 

[ganja din]

@ ureapwhatusow,


I am almost 40 years old, and you can't be serious about a phototron! What a piece of crap that is!

Ed, frank, George, etc, don't have a clue about photons. See Sanjay Yoshie PhD., I have been collaborating with him for a while now...

I have the most accurate info which can't be found from gurus.

And I have already had a huge impact on growing, especially with organics and photons. Who do you think introduced black soldier fly larvae to growers? Me. Who do you think presented and explained YPF, me. I could go on.

shits older than the internet and the numbers you state are not the observed differential reflected by the findings the the its practical application in the community

Huh? I think you not only confused yourself, but me too. If your saying people don't harvest that much what does that have to do with me? Practical application? That is what I am doing with all studies I am undertaking, anyone can do what I do and yield like I do if they only study what I write, are intelligent and have some money.

FYI, that last harvest were I got 1.5 gpw/60 days was a poor grow. I used all seed, no clones or elites. 7 plants all under 3-3.5 feet provided 1.5 gpw/60 days.

 

[GreenintheThumb]

First off I have to say the 3 gram/watt promise is a joke. Get real kid. I know you don't have any problem speaking on your potential future improvements but my suggestion is you check yourself before you wreck yourself. Wake me up when you have BHO that magically has no butane in it And I would love to see pics of the huge buds you've grown.

Would you kindly show me references to you claim about UV-b? You are totally ignorant and yet your proud of it. I can provide over a DOZEN journal articles and other authoritative info showing the FACT about THC increase. Please, go do some research (not on icmag or ANY other pot forum), and you will find you totally incorrect.

UV-b increases THC? How is that, simply THC in the resin or resin production overall? I started a thread about this subject, why don't you stop by. I'd tell you Sam tried a simple side by side UV-b experiment but you probably wouldn't much care for his findings

You are also wrong about breeding for THC increase! THC is a product of phenotype, while CHEMOTYPE (I, II, or III) is a product of breeding, not environ(genitically fixed). Now google "chemotype" so you'll have a clue about what I am writing.

What a ridiculous statement. THC levels are as linked to genotype as anything else. You can't put hemp in your closet and get kush.

This is exactly what bothers me, people without a clue claiming non-facts as facts! You should now your facts before posting...and always offer references!

You should know how to spell know

Ps. I'm sure you will want to grow what I breed, I am going to do things on a cellular level (among other methods) that NO BREEDER has ever done, including sam (AFAIK).

Here you go again telling us what you WILL do. Why don't you share what information you have for the good of the community or at least stop being a condescending **** until you've actually accomplished SOMETHING.

And how does one take a picture of THC increase??? They cant that's how! THC is really "total THC" which is THC-A + THC. No one generally measure only THC, tho I am going to with a THC-A and THCA-A standards. THC increases but trichs do not increase in number AFAIK...

Well since you're going to be breeding on a cellular level I figured you had access to a lab. You could post your lab results as well as pictures of your 3 gram/watt/60 day gardens

 

[ganja din]

@ bubbabud,

No, my plants are not revegged. The photoperiod is the sum of daylength and nightlength. Photoperiod is not fixed 24 hour cadian(sp?) rhythm. The first number is daylength. Cannabis is a "long night" plant, that is it flowers from long nights, it has nothing to due with daylength. The preflower photoperiod keep stretch to a minimum, and cuts 2-3 days off of preflower.

I forgot to say I keep the "DIF" at 0. That is daylength and nightlength are the same temp during preflower, then I drop nightlength temp by 2-3 degrees.

I will upload pics soon. My buds are as good as it gets.

 

[ganja din]

@ resinseeker,

I never said I had no pics! Stop putting words in my mouth.



@ mean mr.mustard,

Its not arrogance when one is simply stating a fact.

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Arrogance: overbearing pride evidenced by a superior manner toward inferiors

 

[resin seeker]

ganja din i think u should delete ur account an work on ur own site lol.not putting words in ur mouth mate i just want to see pics of all these projects.u started a new thread saying ur done with ic mag but still here posting stupid replys.talk about resin or dont talk again thats my opinion.ur just here to start shit is ur name joe petri lol

 

[englishrick]

@ englishrick,

I'm sorry, my bad. I thought you were dissing me with your PM. I don't want to chase you off or be a di*k. Thanks for explaning to me, I jumped the gun on you.

surly you could give sam "the benifit of the boubt",,,,,love needs to gro bro

 

[rasputin]

Don't feed the trolls!

ganja din, are you able/willing to post pics? surely you can understand the inherent skepticism on the internet when someone claims to be doing something and yet are reluctant to provide photos to support those same claims. it'd go a long way toward showing others here you know what you're talking about and have something of merit to add to the discussion. otherwise its coming off as a bit much, especially in regards to sam's work. the same credit and benefit of the doubt you want all of us to give you for your findings you can't afford to sam, what gives?

 

[CosmicGiggle]

is he GONE yet???

 

[NotaProfessor]

Wow. I musta missed the flurry at the end.

Bringing it back on topic: Props to the hashmasters who've displayed their products on this thread. They are truly inspirational!

I hope someday Sam will feel confident/secure/??? enough to release his discovery to the general public. Until then I will marvel at his success and continue to ponder how he may have got it.