What is the problem with recreational use?

[richyrich]

That is a semantic cop out and if YOU feel better not calling yourself a "stoner" that is fine, however the term makes no distinction and by definition a cannabis user is a stoner.
There are thousands of rec users who dose exactly as you do, a little buzz, never baked.
MMJ law and some medical users seem as if they feel their use is special and "better" than rec use,or that rec users are a threat to their own little world.

What is the problem with recreational use? A simple 7 word question this time. Maybe one of you who are carping about non-med use can answer it now?
WR

ANYONE? I am sincere about my question and it has been something that has seemed to follow the MMJ movement since it's inception causing division and outright scorn on both sides.
Why are some medical users extremely "down" on rec users? Is it a moral or legal issue? Simple and straight forward and since 1999 I have yet to have a single MMJ user that is down on rec use step up and answer.
As I said getting things sussed out on this forum and finding out who is here for discussion and who is here to cause trouble or in some cases who's illness causes irrationality.
WR

Maybe you will get an answer out here. Chime in folks and help this guy out.

 

[vta]

Whats the problem?

Nothing. I think ALL use is medical....even if your getting high to feel good. Just as there are many pills made for that.

 

[Koroz]

There isn't a problem with recreational use. Some here might claim all use is Medicinal, but it isn't. Sure, I could say that the change of mind is "medicinal" but for me I use it because I like the way it makes me feel. Same reason I have sex, I and my wife are "fixed" so we can't have anymore kids. We still have Sex though, because it feels good.

The bottom line is, Medicinal users may "feel" a superior need for it but they don't "NEED" it unless there is no med that can treat their illness. Now, with that said, am I implying that cannabis isn't the "best" treatment option for a lot of people? Not at all, but just as Rec users could find (in most cases) a more harmful substance to relax with, Med users could find a more dangerous man made (in most cases) cure for their problems.

So in the end we are all in the same boat, just some of us both in our inner circle of users and the greater public don't care about the Majority until it affects us personally, then all the sudden we act like the world is ending because "OUR" problems aren't being attended to.

And for those people who like the word stoner... I don't, because I am not a stoner. The same way drinking a glass of Wine, or having a beer doesn't make me an alcoholic.

 

[Hash Zeppelin]

the only problem with recreational use is that is not legal again yet.

 

[Green Supreme]

Thing is separating med and rec is a divide and conquer strategy. I mean is the plant so insidious that only med people should have access to it. Once the gov't separates med from rec they go hard on the rec folks cuz they are most certainly criminals now. United we stand divided we fall. Not saying that med folks shouldn't have weed just that we all should. Legalization or nothing. Peace GS

 

[Moldy Dreads]

Whats the problem?

Nothing. I think ALL use is medical....even if your getting high to feel good. Just as there are many pills made for that.

Agreed, and people who use it daily thinking they are recreational users are the ones who are in the river denial LMFAO

 

[Moldy Dreads]

They isn't a problem with recreational use. Some here might claim all use is Medicinal, but it isn't. Sure, I could say that the change of mind is "medicinal" but for me I use it because I like the way it makes me feel.

You just contradicted yourself genius, so the people that take Xanax, Prozac, whatever to make them "feel better" are recreationally using them? Makes no sense..you're trying to define quality of life as a recreational passtime? N Please!

 

[Grass Lands]

For me it can be both rec and med related...there are times I use for medicinal needs...such as coming in from a long hard day and smoking a joint to help the muscles relax, then there are other times where I just like to toke a big fat joint and veg...kinda the same thing so isn't it. So is there anything really wrong with med use or rec use, no...

the only difference is in the mind of the folks who thinks there needs to be a difference...GL

 

[Koroz]

You just contradicted yourself genius, so the people that take Xanax, Prozac, whatever to make them "feel better" are recreationally using them? Makes no sense..you're trying to define quality of life as a recreational passtime? N Please!

First off, lets not start trying to flame or be a smart ass. Opinions are just that, opinions. If mine differs from your opinion doesn't mean you are wrong, just means I think you are full of it :wink:.

You obviously were quick to judge my statement and put words in my mouth because you want to flame someone. Make you feel better? The fact is, I don't "NEED" Cannabis to feel better about my day. I have felt fine in the last 3 months I have been with out it.

People who "take" Xanax, and Prozac are taking them to correct an issue. I don't have those issues and don't take prescriptions for Depression or Anxiety. I smoke Cannabis because I want to for a change of pace to the normal day, not because I need a substance to alter my life to make me feel better about myself or the surroundings I have. Those people who do take Xanax, and prozac, or smoke Cannabis to fight mental instabilities or depression are doing so for medicinal reasons. Are you trying to imply that anything that makes you feel "better" through synapses in your brain is "medicinal"? If so, then I guess smoking a cigarette is Medicinal even though it is destroying your body because it makes smokers "feel good".

And I am not a "N". Nor are most black/African people I know, thanks though.

 

[richyrich]

And for those people who like the word stoner... I don't, because I am not a stoner. The same way drinking a glass of Wine, or having a beer doesn't make me an alcoholic.

I agree. When I made a similar statement following...

whiterasta

No, I am not against recreational use. I look at recreational MJ as I do alcohol. But, I do not use alcohol for a medicinal effect.

This thread is about medical marijuana. If I use marijuana for medicinal purposes, it is only to the point where it is effective. Never to get high or stoned off my ass. That is my difference and that is why I would never consider myself a stoner.

Then I got this response. Go figure?

Yes I know what the thread is about and thank you for attempting an answer to the question blue dot chose to ignore. I however read your response and see a splitting of hairs not any clear difference.

I do the same for medicinal use or recreational use, it is called dose titration.

That is a semantic cop out and if YOU feel better not calling yourself a "stoner" that is fine, however the term makes no distinction and by definition a cannabis user is a stoner.
There are thousands of rec users who dose exactly as you do, a little buzz, never baked.
MMJ law and some medical users seem as if they feel their use is special and "better" than rec use,or that rec users are a threat to their own little world. It is neither.Using an herbal remedy is no different than using the same herb for food or recreation. How many medical vegans ya'll know? How many get all up in the air if you do not make the medical distinction?
I really should make myself clear here. I really do no give a rats ass why anyone would use cannabis. The plant works for folks on a number of levels and the delineation between medical and recreational with this particular herb is fuzzy at best. I am just very curious at the phenomenon I have witnessed repeatedly within the MMJ community of medical users looking down on and denigrating rec users and use.
WR

 

[Koroz]

Yea I dunno, sounds like he/she is in a hissy over something else that happened that made him feel as though he was inferior for being a "stoner".

I don't have a problem with "stoners" either, I just think there is a place that is different for everyone that works for how much they should smoke. If you are wasting all your money, not paying your bills and using Cannabis to escape problems you should be solving then I don't think you are a "stoner" I want to be around, but one that I would like to see get their life on track and get some help. Mental Addiction is just as bad as physical imo. But that is a different conversation for a different day.

If you are progressing in your life, keeping down a job and paying your bills/dealing with responsibility and smoking 24/7, more power to you, you still aren't a stoner in my eye's. Stoner doesn't equate to total consumption, its the term used to describe someone who puts usage of a substance before anything else no matter how important it may be.

 

[dongle69]

I can't imagine being so butt hurt about something that I would start a thread specifically to troll another user.

 

[JackTheGrower]

Perhaps the wisdom is no mater what the *drug (1), if one has no life but that then they need to grow in other ways.

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*(1) I define drug as any behavior we are "Brain Addicted to." Since all emotion is a chemical representation we favor some behaviors , like the experience of falling in Love, over others. Indeed we are "Addicted" to feelings and behaviors.

These "addictions" could be chemicals or emotions.

 

[noone4u]

this is hilarious

you are all pot heads at the end of the day!

 

[philcollins]

I'm a go have some medical beers later...anyone wanna come with?

 

[Mr-B]

I can't imagine being so butt hurt about something that I would start a thread specifically to troll another user.

lol... marry me~!

 

[PuReKnOwLeDgE]

Hi, my name is Pureknowledge, and I am a bonified STONER!

Watch this!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF34KvW5uPo

 

[Pythagllio]

Exactly the same as selling pot for a profit, is what's wrong with it.

Here's a question...can a person use medically and recreationally at the same time?

 

[richyrich]

I can't imagine being so butt hurt about something that I would start a thread specifically to troll another user.

Touchy are we? The poor fella has been wanting an answer. It is getting responses now, ain't it? How is that trolling???????? Because I shared what I had posted. I don't get butt hurt from behind a keyboard. That would be rather pathetic. But, obviously it bothered you enough to post what you did. Who is butt hurt?

You do not like opinions, or do you? Do you subscribe to threads? If you do, why don't you go back and reply instead of selectively ignoring them and taking lame shots as done here. I believe I had one or two in other threads directly for you.

 

[sunwukong]

From the gov.'s point of view, recreational users are displaying traits of independent thought, something they have discouraged in the populace since day one. If you're not just going to take everything the police and officials tell you as the truth, what else might you question? Taxes? Fighting an unjust war? Our eroding civil rights? The fact that the govt. takes forever to do anything? Pot smokers, display a behavior that is very dangerous to those in power. They think for themselves.