medical license success!!!!!!!

[dmt]

Do they actually have a gram per day/aliment chart lol, sorry I can just see some civil servant checking over this chart while processing the paperwork....

We all have different tolerances to cannabis, what works for one may not work for another. Does anyone know if the prescription can be modified if it's not enough?

Hey Sleepy, OGA will smuggle you in bro.

yes, modifcation may be made at any time with the docs signature. i dont know if docs are civil servants though?? i guess they are if they are paid by the man? it is timely, but once he signs you are virtually good to go with the papers. health canada will back you with a "in renewal" status if the police decide to suss you out, good luck, d

 

[Dr Dog]

Do they actually have a gram per day/aliment chart lol, sorry I can just see some civil servant checking over this chart while processing the paperwork....

We all have different tolerances to cannabis, what works for one may not work for another. Does anyone know if the prescription can be modified if it's not enough?

Hey Sleepy, OGA will smuggle you in bro.

well as long as you fit into one of our packages lol

No chart but they have nurses on staff there or under contract that look over prescriptions

I remember the guy i grow for got his rx and then Health Canada was callin his dr saying it was too much and to put him on 5 grams a day. Well the guy I grow for is HIV + and a few other ailments and needs more than like 2 joints a day, sorry

It had to take legal threats to Health Canada to get them to lay off

 

[snaggy]

I have a lifetime disability.

out of B1 category:
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from cancer;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from HIV/AIDS infection;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis; or
•Seizures from epilepsy.

I suffer from similarities in:
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis; ( I do not have MS, but I have the exact same pain results)
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis;

I originally dislocated both thumbs.
tore all ligaments in hands and wrists.
Could not squeeze anything at first.
Went through physio many times, acupuncture, etc.
Arthritis spread throughout my hands, wrists, up my arms.
Also gained severe carpal tunnel.

Went through hell for awhile with unexplainable pains, swelling, nausia, loss of stamina, falling asleep when i shouldn't, etc., etc.. Docs thought I had MS.
After many scans, tests, etc. professional results from Comprehensive Pain Clinic showed that I was born with a narrow spinal canal where the nerves travel through.
I was fine most my life, and a better than average local athlete.
But..
Add the arthritis in my narrow nerve canal, and it pinches of my nerves at the neck and back.
I am not supposed to tilt my head up or back, not supposed to raise arms or reach for anything, or I can pinch my the nerves in my neck worse doing so.
I suffer from pains from head to toe, swelling, muscle spasms, lack of stamina, sleep disorder, and have been professionally been labelled with severe conditional depression.

I also suffer from dizziness and nausia, some from disability and some from meds I am sure.
Marijuanna also helps my nausia.

I currently take:
Lyrica
Celebrex
T3's (got doc to replace oxycocets with T3's to make me less ill)
Lorazapam (only take if I really have to)
Amitrypaline
Flexerall muscle relaxer
Anti-depresent
Ibuprophen
Alieve
Vitamins
Malox - cause after all the pills I cannot shit for days on end.


Yet I cannot find a doc in Southwestern Ontario that accepts patients and is not anti-mma.
My current and past docs always knew I am using it. But they refuse to sign.
1st doc gave me a bunch of BS about red tape, when I already knew how the system worked. I called him on his BS, he smiled but still will not sign because of insurance reasons.
2nd doc states "he doesn't believe in it" , and yet won't accept any info regarding it from me either.

So where the hell are all these docs?

Without it I am nothing.
With it, well, I was able to type this.

 

[dmt]

hi snaggy, sounds like you and i have alot in common. there is one more card people have to play it seems. ive totally forgot that health canada has waver forms for doctors to sign eliminating any liability concerning you, him and medical marijuana. if no one will, they have to find you a reference. in reality, their opinion is not as important as your needs. fill out the forms, bring the waver, and dont take no for an answer. what they believe is their business, just as much as what you need. even the hobby of growing and nurturing plants is uplifting for the soul, which counts so much when we are down and out. be strong, be prepared and be addiment that natural remedy is superior to synthetic(in so moany ways). ontarion has as many docs as the rest of canada pretty much, they have no choice, so dont give them one you know? my doc said no, but refered me (3 month wait) to a specialist. ive talked to a couple other pain specialists who all know my doc, and his med pot attitude, because they go to conferences and share info like any other industry. being canadian, i notice how subservient we can be. human right is human right wether a bumb, a king or anyone else in between is concerned. do it for your self man, you shouldnt be demonised for something that helps you on the emotional, physical and spiritual level. there is nothing like the feeling of harvesting your own meds, knowing you put healing intent into it, and consuming it with that knowledge, do your best, and you will succeeed, good luck ,d

 

[mr noodles]

im fucking crushed now ...

believe it or not but the human commission has zero fucking legal power over the doctor . there no legal way to use the human right commission 'recommendation'

talked about 2 hours on the phone with a a responsible and there is no way i can be plaintive and force my doctor to fill my b1 properly

basically on planet quebec the human right commission worth absolutely nothing , worst my doctor told me to fuck off and find another one i went on emergency this morning because of supeudol and lyrica bad side effect, i puked blood ... i came politely and told him i had enough of traditional medication and gave him the human rigth paper....

he laughed at the human right commission document and said it worth zero and he would never sign anything , i protested politely and told me to find another doctor str8 like that

its legal for him to do that in planet quebec and if i have a complaint i have to do it to the colleges des medecins .i talked to the human right commission about all of this .

my fed deputy can do fuck all either , basically doctors are god on this planet quebec .

quebec = nazi regime

now i have to find another doctor and there no one nearby and its 8 months minimum on a waiting list


quebec can be a great plave to live, great peoples but their institutions suck and act like little uneducated nazi ...

oh by the way my ex-doctor cannot read and speak anything but french.....he is monocelular and less informed than a hobo on ste catherine street downtown montreal

 

[snaggy]

yeah.
Lyrica sucks!
Even though it takes a week or two for lyrica to be in your system enough, I can feel myself go more stupid whenever I take one.

That is an awful thing the doc just did to you.
How are you supposed to get any medical perscriptions renewed at all?
Walk-in clinics?

The whole MMA system is corrupt.
I know people with perscriptions for it, and nothing "majorly" wrong with them. (those docs are not accepting new patients)
Then there is people who need it, but only see shut doors.

Last year I notified my MP. They told me to talk with my MPP.
All MPP office can recommend is keep trying new doctors.
The doctors are the gods of MMA
But the MPP office did give me the info on which local doctors were accepting new patients.

I notified MPP office quickly on my health situation.
Explained briefly why I need MMA, or an alternative if there is one. (must show you are willing to try all alternatives, cannot be closed minded towards just MMA)
Explained briefly the laws I "have" to currently break in order to feel half human.
Explained that MPP office now knows all about me.
They then had 2 choices.
1: Report me to the law
2: Keep quiet, which, in turn is also aiding and abedding.
My MPP is not about to squeal on a disabled person.


I was stressed out last year, and this was the best protection I could find, or think of at that moment.
In hindsight, I would not recommend what I did to just anyone.
LOL

Maybe a MPP visit might help you if you are hurting.
They can see 1st hand your discomfort, and maybe be compassionate.
They might be able to pull strings if continous doctor is needed for you.
All depends on your local MPP, and how badly overloaded your local doctors are.

 

[headband 707]

Damn Mr. Noddle I feel for ya and I know exactly what your going through. I have a few suggestions not sure if this will help. You can't make a Dr. go with pot if he thinks it's going to make him look bad to everyone else. So once a Dr. says no then move on. You have to either ask them to send you to a Dr. that does help with this problem or go to Natropaths, Message therapist, Chinese Medicine ect. The Compassion club here said that they are recommending ppl try that route.I know Lyrica is a terrible drug and ppl shouldn't be taking it it screws with your brain!! It's too bad that Dr.'s are listening to the Gov. and not Scientists but you can't change that . A Gov. that grows and sells pot ffs. Move on to the person that can. I would go as far as asking over the phone with the Natropaths as not to waste time running around. peace out Headband707

 

[Black Ra1n]

Hey snaggy, I was going to pm you this but you don't have enough posts, this is from another forum.

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

What to do when your doctor won't sign your Health Canada medical cannabis access forms

Don't have the physician support you need to be legal?

Lawyer Paul Lewin in Toronto is now looking for individuals in Canada who's doctors won't sign their Health Canada government access forms for the medical cannabis access program. He wants to hear from you today!

Please contact:

Lawyer Paul Lewin:
Phone: 416-499-7945
Fax: 416-756-3663
Email: paullewin@on.aibn.com

LINK:
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

 

[mr noodles]

Hey snaggy, I was going to pm you this but you don't have enough posts, this is from another forum.

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

What to do when your doctor won't sign your Health Canada medical cannabis access forms

Don't have the physician support you need to be legal?

Lawyer Paul Lewin in Toronto is now looking for individuals in Canada who's doctors won't sign their Health Canada government access forms for the medical cannabis access program. He wants to hear from you today!

Please contact:

Lawyer Paul Lewin:
Phone: 416-499-7945
Fax: 416-756-3663
Email: paullewin@on.aibn.com

LINK:
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

just e-mailed !

thanks for the link

 

[headband 707]

Very cool thread Black Rain I posted it on other boards lol. Do you know exactly what he does? peace out Headband707

 

[dmt]

wow.of all places, you would think the very european quebec would be the most open, thats eft up noodles. thanks for the info black rain, most triumphant.

my only advice now is to not be upset, discouraged or unfocussed by this speed bump. theres a lawyer in bc too that wrote the book for health canada in 2001. forget his damn name. il due my diligence and get back to yall. noodles, put your energy towards your goal. get on the waiting list for now, and try to seek a lawyer if you can where you live recommended by paul lewin as recommende by black rain. the things we need the most tend to be the hardest things to get, but not impossible. i will try to contact some people in quebec as well and see what they say, chow for now, d

ps, listen, i was told 9-12 months to see my specialist, and they called in 2 months. keep your doors open, something will come through. im going to start emailing les doctors des idiots

pss i just contacted a friend at cbc. waiting to hear back. is there anyway you can take your story to the news and media in any way shape or form??????? this would help the cause greatly in quebec it seems

 

[mr noodles]

wow.of all places, you would think the very european quebec would be the most open, thats eft up noodles. thanks for the info black rain, most triumphant.

my only advice now is to not be upset, discouraged or unfocussed by this speed bump. theres a lawyer in bc too that wrote the book for health canada in 2001. forget his damn name. il due my diligence and get back to yall. noodles, put your energy towards your goal. get on the waiting list for now, and try to seek a lawyer if you can where you live recommended by paul lewin as recommende by black rain. the things we need the most tend to be the hardest things to get, but not impossible. i will try to contact some people in quebec as well and see what they say, chow for now, d

ps, listen, i was told 9-12 months to see my specialist, and they called in 2 months. keep your doors open, something will come through. im going to start emailing les doctors des idiots

pss i just contacted a friend at cbc. waiting to hear back. is there anyway you can take your story to the news and media in any way shape or form??????? this would help the cause greatly in quebec it seems

i dont give up and i never will . its my legitimate right to access the program because he was made for people like me aka in severe pain with true medical condition .

there no way in hell that i will abdicate to the fucking ignorant mases . its my right, im in Canada ,im a Canadian and my right ,yes my fucking right are baffle and denied by an organization that terrorize their members with intimidation tactics .an organization that act like it is a superior entity in canada .

we must be dreaming because that shit is not my canada !


dont hate quebecers in my story , most of them are cool and great peoples. i have fun and i have a great life despite of my ailment . hate the machine because its unfair with all quebecers to .

in fact we are all in the same boat and we all need help please !

 

[mr noodles]

this is the document that was refuted today along my b-1

english version of an important document from human right commission that got zero legal power :

http://whyprohibition.ca/sites/default/files/Medical Use of Marihuana and Right to Equality.pdf

and here an ugly truth quote from : http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5hJ24bU8vGSV_rije4xMncH-Gxq0g

quote : ^^^^^^

Department officials have said they will eventually phase out all personal production, forcing patients to order all their dope from the government, perhaps through pharmacy distribution.

Copyright © 2009 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.


how do we call a country who not respect the chart of human right ?

didn't we bombed a few so far ?

 

[headband 707]

Yeah get your gear now lol no matter what if the Gov. gets their greedy paws on pot were screwed!! I can't believe were going backwards and now we are acting like the US WTF! Who is incharge making these really bad discisions? They must be taken out lol peace out Headband707

Sign online to stop Bill C15:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/Stop-Bill-C15

 

[snaggy]

Hey snaggy, I was going to pm you this but you don't have enough posts, this is from another forum.

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

What to do when your doctor won't sign your Health Canada medical cannabis access forms

Don't have the physician support you need to be legal?

Lawyer Paul Lewin in Toronto is now looking for individuals in Canada who's doctors won't sign their Health Canada government access forms for the medical cannabis access program. He wants to hear from you today!

Please contact:

Lawyer Paul Lewin:
Phone: 416-499-7945
Fax: 416-756-3663
Email: paullewin@on.aibn.com

LINK:
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

Thanks!
This link takes me to a dead page.
But probably still something worth reading there somewhere.

 

[snaggy]

Government wants to phase out home medicinal grows?
LOL.
Good luck.
If you were already a licensed grower for a year or two. You should have an ergonomic/efficient room.
Now that you spent endless money and hours in hypothesis, theory, engineering, construction, technical, and troubleshooting.
Now that you figured out your system perfectly, and the medicine is awesome, you must buy this Canadian brick-weed from the Government Drug Dealer instead for 20 times the price of your seasons nutrients.
LOL


Can the government even grow good medicine?
They couldn't before.
Also, are they still sending whole plants ground up, or just the actual flowers?
LOL.

Harper wants the government to be the mafia king of marijuana.
This tactic will not go over very well with any established grower.

 

[headband 707]

I got ahold of this guy . He wants wittnesses.

I got ahold of this guy . He wants wittnesses.

Hey snaggy, I was going to pm you this but you don't have enough posts, this is from another forum.

http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

What to do when your doctor won't sign your Health Canada medical cannabis access forms

Don't have the physician support you need to be legal?

Lawyer Paul Lewin in Toronto is now looking for individuals in Canada who's doctors won't sign their Health Canada government access forms for the medical cannabis access program. He wants to hear from you today!

Please contact:

Lawyer Paul Lewin:
Phone: 416-499-7945
Fax: 416-756-3663
Email: paullewin@on.aibn.com

LINK:
http://www.medicalmarihuana.ca/no-doctors.html

Okay he got ahold of me and he is looking for witnesses for his client to show that ppl are having a hard time finding doctors to help them. It's true everyone is having a hard time trying to find help from Dr.'s. peace out Headband707

 

[dmt]

there you go, if you have to threaten a doctor with "legal action"(media exploitation etc), call that lawyer. im sure a doc would rather aquiess then be exposed as a "badguy". maybe all the potential appilcants in quebec need to unite to raise awareness about this travesty. no doctor wants to lose face, especially if they are "the master of the universe" kind, d

ps call your local (or non local)paper, news and anyone else who will run your story. your words have power, you just have to make them heard

 

[headband 707]

there you go, if you have to threaten a doctor with "legal action"(media exploitation etc), call that lawyer. im sure a doc would rather aquiess then be exposed as a "badguy". maybe all the potential appilcants in quebec need to unite to raise awareness about this travesty. no doctor wants to lose face, especially if they are "the master of the universe" kind, d

ps call your local (or non local)paper, news and anyone else who will run your story. your words have power, you just have to make them heard

I am 100% sure that for most ppl that have a Dr. that gives them pain meds that they are not going to want to rock that boat as we all know how hard it is to get pain meds. My pain speacialist asked me to leave her out of it. I like my Dr. I just don't like that she is not well informed when it comes to this. Is this her fault? I'm on the fence about that . She is pretty old fashion and after reading what the College and Phy & Surgoens sent to the Dr.'s here I see why she is not willing to help me. The next course would be to go to the GP and if the GP doesn't help report that GP to the College. It's an ambush lol can't wait lol. peace out Headband707

 

[Dr Dog]

there you go, if you have to threaten a doctor with "legal action"(media exploitation etc), call that lawyer. im sure a doc would rather aquiess then be exposed as a "badguy". maybe all the potential appilcants in quebec need to unite to raise awareness about this travesty. no doctor wants to lose face, especially if they are "the master of the universe" kind, d

ps call your local (or non local)paper, news and anyone else who will run your story. your words have power, you just have to make them heard

That is ridiculous

You know what I would do for you if I were your doctor and you called me out in public like that? Nothing!!!!! ever

I like the idea of getting everyone together, but that will probably never happen either, but it more reasonable than insulting and trying to embarrass your DR. Then word gets out on you, and you never get a doctor to look at you again