WAMM issues press release supporting medical marijuana dispensaries

[Blue Dot]

Wamm doesn't produce even a fraction of the amount these two dispensaries go thru. Patients from all over santa Cruz county Monterey county use these dispensaries cuz they r the only 2 in the whole area. It's not just Santa Cruz city patients that go there

Then why is WAMM even concerned with this issue?

AFAIK WAMM isn't even a dispensary, more like a true collective so why do they care if the city of SC only has two dispenaries if those dispensaries are that large, as you say, and serve such a wide range?

Seems to me this issue will not affect WAMM's operation at all?

 

[meduser180056]

Santa Cruz City Guidelines: Until recently everyone assumed the county guidelines apply to all residents of the county. They don't! Each city may enact their own guidelines (again, they can't be more restrictive then the state's). So, while one would hope that each city in the county would adapt the "generous" county guidelines, none have. The City of Santa Cruz is waiting for the Supreme Court to decide the Kelly case and then will decide what, if anything, to do with the guideline question. We can only hope Kelly is decided well for patients and the City leaders throughout the county make reasonable ("generous") guidelines. Only the City of Santa Cruz has police regulations relating to medical marijuana built into their Policy and Procedures Manual. Read this if you are a Santa Cruz city resident.

This is from his website burnedout

 

[meduser180056]

No bluedot it doesn't affect wamm at all they r just a voice of reason in the debate and a respected voice at that. Thier words may help to influence the city counsel to b more sensible

 

[burnedout]

Santa Cruz City Guidelines: Until recently everyone assumed the county guidelines apply to all residents of the county. They don't! Each city may enact their own guidelines (again, they can't be more restrictive then the state's). So, while one would hope that each city in the county would adapt the "generous" county guidelines, none have. The City of Santa Cruz is waiting for the Supreme Court to decide the Kelly case and then will decide what, if anything, to do with the guideline question. We can only hope Kelly is decided well for patients and the City leaders throughout the county make reasonable ("generous") guidelines. Only the City of Santa Cruz has police regulations relating to medical marijuana built into their Policy and Procedures Manual. Read this if you are a Santa Cruz city resident.

This is from his website burnedout

Yeah I saw that. But it doesn't say anything about SC city amending their previous guidelines. In the past they were 100sf on canopy, so one would assume that if they are waiting for the Kelly decision before deciding on what to do in regards to limits, they would stay the same in the mean time unless otherwise stated, no?

 

[burnedout]

Then why is WAMM even concerned with this issue?

AFAIK WAMM isn't even a dispensary, more like a true collective so why do they care if the city of SC only has two dispenaries if those dispensaries are that large, as you say, and serve such a wide range?

Seems to me this issue will not affect WAMM's operation at all?

Who, besides you, has said anything about this affecting WAMM's operation? Did you ever consider that they are concerned about the patients? Stupid question I know.

 

[Blue Dot]

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[quadracer]

So you don't believe that two dispensaries with gov price controls could supply the patients in santa cruz (even when supplied by farms like WAMM)?

Hey Blue Dot,

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Please do some research before spewing such bullshit.

You could never live up to the legacy that Valerie and Mike Corral have left.

For anyone wanting more information about what WAMM really does, I suggest doing a google search (which Blue Dot hasn't done).

 

[quadracer]

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I still read what you originally posted. How come YOU don't supply all the patients in California?

 

[meduser180056]

They were never actually 100 sf canopy limits in the City itself. that was and still is county guidelines. They realized cities weren't included In county guidelines because of the wording in sb420 so they defaulted to state limits. This includes the cities of Santa Cruz capitola scotts valley and Watsonville. Everywhere else in the county Is unincorporated

 

[quadracer]

Yeah I saw that. But it doesn't say anything about SC city amending their previous guidelines. In the past they were 100sf on canopy, so one would assume that if they are waiting for the Kelly decision before deciding on what to do in regards to limits, they would stay the same in the mean time unless otherwise stated, no?

The Santa Cruz City Council has never voted to increase the limits over those set by SB 420. Although Santa Cruz City is located in Santa Cruz County, the city is still free to set their own guidelines.

So, since the city hasn't set their own guidelines, the legal limit is set to that of SB 420.

The county, however, set their own limits, a lot higher than SB 420. They have also recently requested to receive federal government money to enforce and better prosecute more marijuana offenders, despite local law.

IMO Santa Cruz is taking steps to limit access to patients, which will hurt everyone involved. WAMM is spot on.

 

[Blue Dot]

How come YOU don't supply all the patients in California?

Because I don't have a big ass piece of land like they do.

Don't assume I don't know anything about WAMM.

Land is EXPENSIVE in cali. Not everyone can just up and purchase a field.

I will apologise though for sounding rough against WAMM as everything I have ever read leads me to believe they are probably the best model for cali to follow.

 

[burnedout]

The Santa Cruz City Council has never voted to increase the limits over those set by SB 420. Although Santa Cruz City is located in Santa Cruz County, the city is still free to set their own guidelines.

So, since the city hasn't set their own guidelines, the legal limit is set to that of SB 420.

The county, however, set their own limits, a lot higher than SB 420. They have also recently requested to receive federal government money to enforce and better prosecute more marijuana offenders, despite local law.

IMO Santa Cruz is taking steps to limit access to patients, which will hurt everyone involved. WAMM is spot on.

I'm not disagreeing with either of you, I'm just wanting to make sure I get the truth. CAnorml and SAN both state that the City of SC adopts the county guidelines. I wonder why this is if they've never done so?

 

[quadracer]

Because I don't have a big ass piece of land like they do.

Don't assume I don't know anything about WAMM.

Land is EXPENSIVE in cali. Not everyone can just up and purchase a field.

I will apologise though for sounding rohttp://icmag.com/images/editor/smilie.gifugh against WAMM as everything I have ever read leads me to believe they are probably the best model for cali to follow.

http://www.metrosantacruz.com/metro/11.12.08/cover-wamm-0846.html

WAMM really set the model, and were crucial in the passing of Prop 215, and before then, medical marijuana in Santa Cruz.

Although WAMM is underrepresented in the media and in most histories of medical marijuana, they have been at the forefront of medical marijuana since the beginning.

"Waiting to Inhale" is a great documentary which covers WAMM, as well as "Dying to Get High". There is also a great article written by Michael Pollan in 1997.

WAMM also has a current lawsuit against the federal government.

How can anyone who is in the medical marijuana movement not know about WAMM? Mind boggling

 

[meduser180056]

Everyone assumed that wasthe situation till local judges started interpreting the law otherwise

 

[burnedout]

Everyone assumed that wasthe situation till local judges started interpreting the law otherwise

I guess that's the type of specifics I would love to see. I'll see what I can find.

Thanks for that link quadracer, I love reading stuff like that.

 

[Pythagllio]

Why doesn't WAMM supply all the patients in CA considering that they own that big ass piece of land? Maybe the Corral's don't want to room with Eddy Lepp?

Anyway, I'm stunned by the level of hypocrisy and sheer stupidity displayed by BD in this thread. Gov't price controls? What a fucking joke. If BD doesn't understand why price controls won't work, and that every time they've been used for things other than 'natural monopolies' they've failed miserably. But the total dishonesty, hypocrisy, and idiotic non-logic of Blue Dot has been amply demonstrated in his responses to this thread.

I'm done responding to him or acknowledging his existence. I thought him all manner of negatives but honestly thought he was sincerely interested in patients well being, but he's proven that to be utterly false. I must say I expected him to post some bullshit about this, maybe that I was misrepresenting or misunderstanding WAMM's position. Attacking WAMM in the way he did is just pathetic and I admit that I'm shocked that he did it.

But there you have it, Mr. Blue Dot's true colors, exposed for all the world to see.

 

[bensittinback]

does anyone else smell bacon? just wondering

 

[jessrabit]

LOL

 

[9Lives]

We should settle this with a bat fight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnXh3XR9zyM

 

[jessrabit]

Everyone assumed that wasthe situation till local judges started interpreting the law otherwise

Does anyone know specifically which Judges have set these precedents?