medical license success!!!!!!!

[mr noodles]

if anyone has any questions from an objective source, call health canada for info.
you dont need a lawyer. police are the last people allowed in a medical marijuana grow op. nobody is allowed in unless you consent to a search. be infromed, know your rights.

canadians have a legal human right to access marijuana for medical purposes, since 2001, never forget that.

ive prevented police twice now from entering my home and grow, nothing happened. what matters the most is safety and being up to code with structural and electrical and plumbing, safety first. taking advice from people whom dont have their cards or experience in the medical marijuana community in canada is like taking legal advice from a car sales man=hearsay.

the only way to loose your med card is by being an uncompliant idiot. going over plant numbers, selling your meds to undercovers etc, you reap what you sow.

question everything you see and here, especially me.

if you believe that med pot is unaccessable, that is the reality you will create for yourself. if you believe you haver an ailment which requires natural remedy you can access legally through health canada, you will get your card. acts speak far louder then words. ive met over 100 canadians with their licenses. none have been arresetd, they are protected by health canada as long as they are compliant. this post is for motivational/informative purposes. its not meant to be taken personally or conflict with other peoples realities they create for themselves.

if you dont help yourself first, no one will, peace, d

ps i found no archives on people being arrested for health canada grows. police harass anyone whom dont know their rights, because that is their training. media mentality people not only believe deceptive information word for word, but form their lives around this deception which puts them at the centre of the universe, which makes every word or act from anyone else an attack on themselves and dogmatic propogated beliefs. like the way the government convinced quebec to seperate from canada, with the belief they were better then everyone else. im very informed and my words and acts are based in the realm of experience, not what a politician wants me to believe.

imvho, noodles seems like an agent workin for dea or cia, trying to suppress my insights to help others. maybe noodles works for health canada and doesnt want anyone else applying because they are now overwhelmed. ive helped 8 people get there cards, for ligitamate purposes. they were just scared to talk to authority figures, just like noodles.....if anyone thinks my beneficial information os dentrimental, then get your h1n1 vaccine, keep drinking diet sodas and eating fast food and letting television do all your thinking for you, cest la vie

we have a fucking problem here

here what you didnt find about a legitimate card holding patient that have been busted . dont tell me its bullshit

http://www.marijuanaparty.org/forum...ijuanaparty&Number=11662&page=&view=&sb=&vc=1

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...26/Quebec_cannabis_090626/20090626?hub=Health

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/actualite...ur-de-marijuana-medicale-accuse-de-trafic.php

all the mj medical community suported this man , even the media . translate motherfucker ! google it .

this poor man was busted and he never sell to anybody, they fucked him up after they realize he was a legal users and cops dont like to loose their face.....they weigthed steam, roots, leaf and they accused him of having too much . yvan ferland respected the recommendation done by health canada about composting the residue .even the person from health canada pleaded in favor of mr ferland .


such a militant like you should know that story .


you also called me a narc from the dea trying to ruin your fucking thread ?


i hope moderator will handle this because im about to stop being politically correct with this guy....there a fucking limit !

 

[JJScorpio]

dmt, give your opinions if you like, but lay off calling people cops. That just takes away from the discussion and starts an argument.

 

[dmt]

how does any of all this bs relate to achieving a hcmm card? ^^^^^^

if you play with fire you get burned, ive already said if you arent compliant, youl lose your card. am i surprised that the rcmp are emotionally disturbed, steroid jacking, egomaniacs, fuck no. ive been beat up by the rcmp when i was a young buck. im savey to the fact our world is corrupted. and that most police are arrogant dickheads(as a job). sitting around and complaining doesnt get you or anyone any closer to an hcmm card. if your going is getting tough, get tough or get going. i know many people whom have been inspected, nothing happens if the grow is up to code, peace, d

 

[mr noodles]

so you didnt read any of the links ? keep spreading your personal propaganda

yvan ferland was busted for nothing and did nothing wrong . he respected every rules gave to him by santé/health canada about composting residue . they also weighted 8 plant in their wet pro-mix 5 gal .

also its not the rcmp that busted him but the provincial force . they stormed is house for no reason and when they realised their mistake they just take everything they could to bust him no matter legal or not .they emptied a compost box with rotten -wett matter

you call this case playing with fire ?

and you keep telling i did nothing to get my legetimate card ? i even went to the head of the head of my province and i couldnt do jack shit even if i got a class 1 categories since decades .


about the renewal, they can decide to not renewal you card if as new medication make it to the market and force you to take this . i suppose its bullshit ? the doctor decide if he prescribe you or not something ....not you or your will or whatever and the fucker follow is path whitout blinking to any credible documentation .

bullshit , you got a class 1 in quebec only if you are in a terminal ill due to cancer or aids as we speak .arthritis doesnt count in quebec....they gave you vicodin /supeudol , fybromialgia and lupus doesnt count in the stupid quebec legislation .

? go and ask to maurice st boris at the centre compassion here in montreal and ask him why they supported yvan ferland so bad and why a lawyer defend him for free

you stated 2-3 posts ago that police never harassed any legal mj users . so why do you tell us that you know for a fact that many received the visit of the police ? i think thats harassment period . well that what happen to mr ferland and they fucked up with a loop in the law .

keep telling its bs .

another thing why do you want to know so bad the id of people who want to apply to be legal ?
dont tell me you want to help because you are hostile and very agressive so far .


people be warn, dont tell to anybody you grow beside you doctor. take a lawyer or whatever but dont tell to your id to any member of any public forum .especially when he know jackshit about your provincial legislation . deal with professional only


its called rules #1 and its called safety .

 

[danny karey]

Alright children, calm down....I would like some help DMT, Im in Ontario.

This bickering back and forth is BS, dmt ya had a great idea for a thread, keep up the good work dude.

Mr noodles, did you really put a smiley face pointing up and laughing at dmt, are you 12yr old or somthing? Grow up man, this guy is trying to help people and your making fun of him grow up and stop clutering up a good thread.

dmt, please hit me up with a PM if ya got the time to help me out with all this, it's quit intimidating I find.

Thanx for the great thread bro, really helps people out, and don't mind the hater's.

Danny

 

[mr noodles]

colleges des medecins du quebec

514 933-4441

1 888 633-3246


just hang out as we speak and im aslo confiremd again that they will not prescribe mj

 

[mr noodles]

if you think that someone who ignore facts can help you go for it . its your choice

 

[danny karey]

Hey already gave you facts about how many med patients there is in quebec and you ignore them? Give it up man, no one cares but you.
dmt is in quebec isn't he, he got his lisence so what are you talking about?

So what, you call them and they shoot ya down, of course they will unless you got the proper forms and stuff, go read the health canada website man, they got a bunch of facts and info on mmj.

pull your head out of your ass for five minutes, ya mite learn somthing.

If your just gonna be a troll on this thread can you please leave, some people really need the help man.

Thanx

danny

 

[mr noodles]

Hey already gave you facts about how many med patients there is in quebec and you ignore them? Give it up man, no one cares but you.
dmt is in quebec isn't he, he got his lisence so what are you talking about?

So what, you call them and they shoot ya down, of course they will unless you got the proper forms and stuff, go read the health canada website man, they got a bunch of facts and info on mmj.

pull your head out of your ass for five minutes, ya mite learn somthing.

If your just gonna be a troll on this thread can you please leave, some people really need the help man.

Thanx

danny

all i gave is legal information about the current evolution of the legal card issue we had . it migth be pertinent enough for a lot of us .

all i said is fact and can be checked by anybody . so why im called a liar, a narc ect ?

here a script from le colleges des medecins where its stated they dont want their doctors to sign any prescription in the b1

http://www.cmq.org/~/media/596AE147...B1924FFE35CF3401.ashx4ACB1924FFE35CF3401.ashx


im a troll .....awwwww fuck it all i wanted to do is gave the real information about the real current situation .

 

[danny karey]

well man, Im in Ontario so I don't give a rat's-ass about quebec doctors not giveing out scrips for mmj, the rest of Canada gets them i dunno what to tell ya. Contact your local Mp and tell him whats going on, Im pretty sure an entire province cant just say fu where not complying with the fedral regulations.

What your buddies the collage of doctors are doing is illegal, like dmt said, by not allowing you access to a government approved medication, so instead of cluttering up this thread(which will get you know where) take action in your province, get some people togeather and form a rally at one of your federal buildings for access to mmj, call your MP, contact some newpaper's, call your radiostation, call your news TV networks.

and like I said, look at the health canada website, which states ALL canadian residents are intittled (if it warrents) to mmj if a doctor deems it neccasary for you to medicate with. it doesnt' matter what the collage of physicians states, this mmj is CANADA wide, unless you quebecer's finally seperated from the rest of Canada, if not, than you need to do somthing about this.

Danny

 

[mr noodles]

well man, Im in Ontario so I don't give a rat's-ass about quebec doctors not giveing out scrips for mmj, the rest of Canada gets them i dunno what to tell ya. Contact your local Mp and tell him whats going on, Im pretty sure an entire province cant just say fu where not complying with the fedral regulations.

What your buddies the collage of doctors are doing is illegal, like dmt said, by not allowing you access to a government approved medication, so instead of cluttering up this thread(which will get you know where) take action in your province, get some people togeather and form a rally at one of your federal buildings for access to mmj, call your MP, contact some newpaper's, call your radiostation, call your news TV networks.

and like I said, look at the health canada website, which states ALL canadian residents are intittled (if it warrents) to mmj if a doctor deems it neccasary for you to medicate with. it doesnt' matter what the collage of physicians states, this mmj is CANADA wide, unless you quebecer's finally seperated from the rest of Canada, if not, than you need to do somthing about this.

Danny

i know and i agree whit you at 100 % and maybe its the reason why i did this in this thread .

not too many people know about that . i just talked with a person at health canada about this and he confirmed that quebec is away of the canada once more , by the way im no separatist and im a PROUD CANADIAN .

all i wanted to do is getting this severe injustice be known by everybody especially to those who want to help . this information is crucial to any person who had to work around the law .

i still dont understand dmt attitude toward me after my 1 post in this thread . calling me liar and all even narc ???? wtf all i wanted is to share so crucial information about an INJUSTICE .

rally around here is not a good idea , its like declaring yourself that you have an illegal grow back home...

i pointed out many time that ontario got a whole different situation , thank god for that . the person at health canada even told me to go see a doctor in ontario...

 

[danny karey]

Cool man, glade to hear your a proud Canadian, that a boy!!!

Rally wouldnt mean ya got a grow man, it means that your sick of geting Oxycontin for pain and pot would absolutely raise your quality of living. If there's a bunch of you rallying it be pretty hard to investigate all of ya and press charges........Right? The only way anythings gonna change is if you guys "The people of Quebec" fight for it.

Goodluck man, wish ya all the best!!

Danny

 

[dmt]

hey fellas i apprecitate both your info.NO ONE IS WRONG HERE. just know that im not doing anything to anybody. both you guys are right. this post is about "success", not failure, and i would just like to maintain a positive attitude for better or worse. i dont know the regional policies of every place in canada, but hc is federal, so i treat it like it is. if ive personally helped 8 people get there cards, why couldnt that help here, via mail? i cant say much about what you know, only what i know noodles.

noodles: go to your nearest human rights representative, and take your case to the Canadian Human Rights Commission. DK has some great advice too about raising awareness in your area. my only point is if you meet a wall, dont jump, break through it. you have power, use it. i dont mean to offend anyone, but i will say things to proove a point just as "matter of factly" not "maliciously" k? also: find scientific studies, keep a journal of the pot use vs med use, if you have to travel out of province to find a doctor then due. you have options my fellow canadian friend.

DK: im there for you bro, however i can help anyone i will.

in my opinion, and the one of health canada, canadaians have a human right to natural remedy. ive looked at the newer applications, and they have i wider spectrum of ailments it seems too. ive talked to health canada all the time and ask questions for those people scared to talk to anyone about med pot. its a part time job for me these days. whatever questions anyone has, call them personally: HC 18663377705.

if canadians are entitled, why not have a lisence. an old mentor always told me that a little bit of hard work builds caharacter. put in work, get er done, build the community. thanks, d

 

[mr noodles]

i dont want to be a nuisance to you dmt , all i wanted to do is sharing an important piece of information that might help in a figth to access legality aka dignity .


far from me the intention of ruining the spirit , all i want is us Canadians to have a fair and equal right to access to a federal program that save life .now here , we live under nazi regime for medicinal mj .

you got to understand my hate toward the fucking colleges des medecins du quebec who substitute the federal right to legal mj , i swear to god call there and try to have a polite answer from these arrogant sob they told a lots but i mean a lots of hate toward the program . they claim the main reason why they dont want the doctor to fill the prescription is because health canada didnt recognized mj as a medecine .

understand my point of view here , if a whole province block user to gain access to the program, what do you think other physicians who are against mj will do in other province . all it will do is giving leverage to anti -med mj movement .

i talked to a nice person at health canada not later than this morning about that issue . he told me he received very few application from quebec and he explained why , only a few maybe under 10 doctor will fill the b1 . the law dont allow health canada to direct me to a doctor who are willing to do it . i told the bitch at the colege of retarded that health canada receive some application from quebec and she promptly asnwered that these doctor are under investigation and they will face sanctions because they didnt respected the order .....thats pure nazi regime

compassion club who are great people dont do this because of the personal information issue and im glad in fact that they have integrity . great people there too

i even be treaten by my doctor that if i bother him again with mj paper , i will have to find another one , that crap is legal in qc....i told you give a call to le college des medecins and see the aberration in action . maybe pising this place is a beginning

here its a minimum of 6 months -1 years on a waiting list just to see another doctor and i will probably hit another wall

i think province of quebec should be put in is place by the federal government because we are in canada not in quebec country . i know for sure that harper admin health minister will never do that move for us . harper is filling the senate in order to take total control of it . among these there anti -medicinal mj advocate , once in place it might be a shitblizzard to quote mr lahey

ive watched a few seance of the senate about c-15 on tv and let me tell you that....its not looking good for any of us, listen to the conservative in these session and told me you are not scared by their lies .

 

[danny karey]

Ya c-15 sucks, but it hasn't gone threw yet. You should move to ontario man, I fya have a prescription for pot for your doctor and healthcanada approves it, you'll be fine regardless if c-15 goes threw or not.

Just somthing to think about bro!

Danny

 

[dmt]

wow man. the friend i helped in quebec:doctor sign, no questions asked, sent application out yesterday. should take 6-8 weeks. ontario has the most doctors and most cards. if you cant move to more better situation. form a coalition, like danny said, and send letters and make phone calls everyday to les doctors, call every 9, 12 and 3 oclock, like 10 or 15 people. or asign a time to each person through out the day. i never said it would be easy, but your voice and the people with you cannaot be ignored. make 1 rally a week and make the phone calls a letters daily. they wonrt be able to handle you sooner then later. use your will power mon ami. it took me 9 months, but i got mine, and now that im in, re applying is easier. how many of us is there? soooo many, they are few, be strong, dont bend or break, your will can achieve anything, d

 

[mr noodles]

wow man. the friend i helped in quebec:doctor sign, no questions asked, sent application out yesterday. should take 6-8 weeks. ontario has the most doctors and most cards. if you cant move to more better situation. form a coalition, like danny said, and send letters and make phone calls everyday to les doctors, call every 9, 12 and 3 oclock, like 10 or 15 people. or asign a time to each person through out the day. i never said it would be easy, but your voice and the people with you cannaot be ignored. make 1 rally a week and make the phone calls a letters daily. they wonrt be able to handle you sooner then later. use your will power mon ami. it took me 9 months, but i got mine, and now that im in, re applying is easier. how many of us is there? soooo many, they are few, be strong, dont bend or break, your will can achieve anything, d

did is doctor filled the prescription part ? if yes , im very happy for your friend .basically i have to find a doctor that want to sign my b1 properly , i know there a few but god ....how to find them is the bad part . i have a real severe arthritic problem (psoriasic arthritis ) + fibromyalgia and more shitty diseases , i always approach the doctor ( because ive tried 4 so far) about my pain and the fact that i dont want to be hooked on opiate and other freaking shit like pregabalin because im dysfunctional and in nausea state 24 h a day...guess what they are cold bitch when i talk about the only thing that relief pain....

well great news for your friend , sincerly im very happy to know some of us can have dignity and relief .

 

[dmt]

alot of docs know who are the ones that sign, because they have clinics about medicine annully and discuss who is doing what. my gp refered me to a surgeon specialist, thats who signed, not my personal doc. i knw how you feel man. get up, stand up, is our right.......maybe its time to move or at least find a doc out of quebec. we llve in an upside down world, and alot of dotors still believe the world is flat and that pills are the only medicine....d

 

[mr noodles]

i want to back my claim that a lot of the doctor who used to fill the b1,b2 and all in the past are now in a negative mode to sign anything , in fact i dont claim this personally. marc saint maurice wich is our best advocate for md mj is saying it in the media

here a french canadian text where marc saint maurice from the centre compassion de montreal explain that even the doctor who used to sigh are now rebutal to do it because of the college des medecins du quebec .

the renewal of a lot of license might came to an end for sick peoples...what will happen when all on a suden the doctor decide that medicinal mj is not the way to go anymore ?

its going on now ! doctors dont sign the renewal and put patient in legal jeopardy . the college put so much pressure on the doc who did it .....that they dont want to do it anymore...

being busted seems to be the point of the iceberg for a lots of peoples as we speak

here the text from the newspaper "le devoir' which is the most serious newspaper in quebec , from oct 1 2009

link : http://74.125.93.132/search?q=cache...re+à+prescrire+de+la&cd=1&hl=fr&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Réunis hier au centre Compassion de Montréal, ceux qui ont porté le débat sur l'usage du cannabis à des fins thérapeutiques jusqu'à Ottawa ont dressé un bilan partagé de leur aventure. «La perception, c'est que c'est légal, mais dans la réalité, c'est tellement rendu compliqué de se procurer du cannabis médical, que ça ne l'est pas vraiment», résume le président et fondateur du club, Marc-Boris St-Maurice, qui pointe du doigt le Collège des médecins du Québec.

Même s'il est possible pour certains patients d'obtenir légalement du cannabis à des fins médicales, le Collège préfère en effet jouer de prudence, compte tenu du fait que «la marijuana n'est pas un médicament homologué au Canada» et «qu'il n'existe aucune donnée probante confirmant ou infirmant l'effet thérapeutique de la marijuana», lit-on dans un avis publié à la suite de la création du programme d'accès à la marijuana médicale, en 2001.

Le Collège recommande depuis à ses membres de s'abstenir de prescrire la marijuana à un patient si celui-ci lui présente une demande d'autorisation de possession de marijuana en vertu du Règlement sur l'accès à la marijuana à des fins médicales. Il leur suggère plutôt de se limiter à remplir la section du formulaire où ils confirment la condition médicale, donc le diagnostic.

La position en demi-teinte du Collège donne des maux de tête au centre Compassion. «On voit de plus en plus de médecins refuser de signer le permis par excès de prudence», raconte M. St-Maurice. Et cela, même parmi ceux qui l'ont fait sans broncher pendant des années. «La personne n'est pas miraculeusement guérie, elle est toujours malade, mais son médecin met quand même un terme au permis pour ne pas être embêté par le Collège.»




if you understand this text you will realise the importance of what im doing here . we may have different opinion on a few issue but we have one legitimate objective in the end : legal mj for sick people

in fact this is an help request, a s.o.s from us !

what happen if you got a license lets say for a year and then the doctor dont sign your renewal....you are doomed by provincial police who have all your info and mostly the most important one that on x date you are NOT legal anymore....

im scared and the linguistic wall make that kind of shit go under the radar ...

i would never joke or mess with that subject and all i want to do is helping those who want to help to figth in the good direction

 

[danny karey]

Yep, ya got to renew every year. But If ya have a legite problem than it shouldn't be a problem to renew. Right a letter to the college of physicians about this man, see what they say.

I say ya move to Ontario man, The more grower's, the better (I was gonna say the more med-patients the better, but that sounds bad..LOL)

Keep up the good fight brother, Wish ya all the best!!!

Danny