Anyone else finding it impossible to find a decent job?

[konstantgrdnr]

I have been pondering and doing deep thinking on Chomsky for a long time. He is Partly Wrong in his posting and the mere fact that i'm commenting on this video should discredit his view. Please take into account I am not discrediting his facts and the truth he speaks.

but when movingtolocally and i can share the same viewpoint, through this video, then we are not just a bunch of chickens with our heads cut off we can organize and people will, it is inevitable like the stars and the sun.

 

[9Lives]

I have to agree with the Ron Paul comment. He was truly a president fit for the U.S.A. And im not worried that he is going to die anytime soon. Hell might even run next time..if the current administration lasts that long.

And even if Ron Paul is gone there are many others to take his place. Look at his son or Peter Schiff for example. Basically everyone who believes in Austrian Economics. These people are out there..

EDIT:

I don't exactly agree with the Chomsky video. Being tired is not an excuse. Shit i've worked hard labour most of my life. Always..ALWAYS had the free time to keep the score and find out what works what does not. Last election it really was as simple as voting. But you got marketed a product instead of choosing the right man..IMHO..

It's just a choice of watching moronic shit on the TV or doing your own research. Any intelligent person will find research more pleasant and interesting.

 

[SEVEN47]

Just be happy you don't live in the unemployment capital of Canada Windsor. We're officially at 15% but I believe it's much higher probably 20%.

 

[spyvsspy]

I'm sure in this country there are many losers that couldn't make it in a competitive society,thats no reason to trash free market ideals and let the gov't take care of everything.Good luck RVW I can tell you're gonna be alright

Wow, this thread turned into a political debate faster than two roadrunners fucking on a steamtrain. Nature of the beast I suppose. Anyways, there are usually two things I try to not argue: religion and politics; but I just want to say: GOOD POINT sparkjumper. Socialism has its good points and its weak points, such as personal innovation. Think about all the great innovations that have come from peoples minds in the pursuit of personal wealth. A socialized society could work to a certain degree, but I believe it would slow down the development of new innovations and breakthroughs which has made America strong since its birth. If has its flaws, (i.e. Great Depression, now, etc.)

Capitalism breeds development IMO, and as sad as it is, there will always be the ones who can't cut it.............. natural selection. But the good thing is, in a capitalist environment there are things one can do to raise themselves up. As previously mentioned, I too work a shitty job for $8 an hour, but I am supporting myself through my hobby, and working to get myself through more school and save money to start a business. I know 20+ people who are like us, couldn't get a "REAL JOB", then made a couple hundred Ks growing, etc.... lived comfortably, then stopped completely while ahead, used the money made to start a legit business, and now are self-made millionaires...........use your skills discussed on this forum..........and take advantage of this capitalist society that we are living in.

Trash it all you want, but as soon as the government starts writing your shitty paychecks, and giving you crappy healthcare, you'll look back and wonder where your capitalism went. I personally would vote for some kinda mix of capitalism and socialism, leaning heavy on the capitalism side, they both have good and bad points, you have to pick the lesser of each evil. You can't have your pie and eat it too.
But of course, thats just like, my opinion and stuff.

 

[Coloradan]

Speak for yourself.

I love cars.

GM isn't going anywhere either. We own it.

im a mechanic and I love cars too. Facts don't change just because of how we feel about them. The reality is no amount of biofuel, ethanol, natural gas, electric, or coal will allow us to run Disney World, Wal Mart, 7-11, the highways and your grow room into the future. Everything will look much different in the future (think smaller walkable communities) and that's all im saying. Peak Oil is a reality. Not to mention global warming

 

[9Lives]

Wow, this thread turned into a political debate faster than two roadrunners fucking on a steamtrain. Nature of the beast I suppose. Anyways, there are usually two things I try to not argue: religion and politics; but I just want to say: GOOD POINT sparkjumper. Socialism has its good points and its weak points, such as personal innovation. Think about all the great innovations that have come from peoples minds in the pursuit of personal wealth. A socialized society could work to a certain degree, but I believe it would slow down the development of new innovations and breakthroughs which has made America strong since its birth. If has its flaws, (i.e. Great Depression, now, etc.)
Capitalism breeds development IMO, and as sad as it is, there will always be the ones who can't cut it.............. natural selection. But the good thing is, in a capitalist environment there are things one can do to raise themselves up. As previously mentioned, I too work a shitty job for $8 an hour, but I am supporting myself through my hobby, and working to get myself money to start a business. I know 20+ people who are like us, couldn't get a "REAL JOB", then made a couple hundred Ks growing, etc.... lived comfortably, then stopped completely while ahead, used the money made to start a legit business, and now are self-made millionaires...........use your skills discussed on this forum..........and take advantage of this capitalist society that we are living in. Trash it all you want, but as soon as the government starts writing your shitty paychecks, and giving you crappy healthcare, you'll look back and wonder where your capitalism went. I personally would vote for some kinda mix of capitalism and socialism, leaning heavy on the capitalism side, they both have good and bad points, you have to pick the lesser of each evil. You can't have your pie and eat it too.
But of course, thats just like, my opinion and stuff.

This is KEY imo...

There are business opportunities you need capital and dicipline and you can make it..

 

[movingtocally]

Wow, this thread turned into a political debate faster than two roadrunners fucking on a steamtrain. Nature of the beast I suppose. Anyways, there are usually two things I try to not argue: religion and politics; but I just want to say: GOOD POINT sparkjumper. Socialism has its good points and its weak points, such as personal innovation. Think about all the great innovations that have come from peoples minds in the pursuit of personal wealth. A socialized society could work to a certain degree, but I believe it would slow down the development of new innovations and breakthroughs which has made America strong since its birth. If has its flaws, (i.e. Great Depression, now, etc.)
Capitalism breeds development IMO, and as sad as it is, there will always be the ones who can't cut it.............. natural selection. But the good thing is, in a capitalist environment there are things one can do to raise themselves up. As previously mentioned, I too work a shitty job for $8 an hour, but I am supporting myself through my hobby, and working to get myself through more school and save money to start a business. I know 20+ people who are like us, couldn't get a "REAL JOB", then made a couple hundred Ks growing, etc.... lived comfortably, then stopped completely while ahead, used the money made to start a legit business, and now are self-made millionaires...........use your skills discussed on this forum..........and take advantage of this capitalist society that we are living in. Trash it all you want, but as soon as the government starts writing your shitty paychecks, and giving you crappy healthcare, you'll look back and wonder where your capitalism went. I personally would vote for some kinda mix of capitalism and socialism, leaning heavy on the capitalism side, they both have good and bad points, you have to pick the lesser of each evil. You can't have your pie and eat it too.
But of course, thats just like, my opinion and stuff.

But even that takes 5 figures to start, and most people don't have it laying around. It took me an embarrassing amount of time to get my start-up money together, and I'm only doing 6K watts..

 

[TNTBudSticker]

Ever heard of those commercials that try to make a person buy a car?

No down payment?
Bankrupted?
Bad credit?
No job?

Then they go on about "Hey,no problem,We'll fix your credit..just come buy a car."

WTF ??!!!!

Impossible to get anything without a job...sheeeesh.

5% of the people know what to do in the world,the other 95% Needs to be told what to do.Capitalism at it's finest.I love Wall Street.Bought gold in the beginning of the year,up 250%.

Tax 1040 sucks,,1099 rules! Capital gains tax forms in the u.s.a.

The job loses are slowing down to like 15,000 lost last month,better than 500,000 for the last 6 months.6 million expected unemployed.Hopefully we turn around but it'll be awhile.

Last hard times for me was selling my (8) 501 levis pants ($3-$9 each) that i outgrew to some chinese guy at his store.Then went to some county public job offices that knew all the jobs in the area.Unemployment development department has lots of jobs.Try looking in the phone book and make an appt.

 

[Four2Zero]

Our politicians are all about special interests, fundraising and getting re-elected. Both parties have their share of the blame in what got us here. Blame is plentiful. My issue is with what the current administration is doing in response to the crisis. I can illustrate this point simply by quoting Rahm Emanuel as saying: "You never let a serious crisis go to waste. And what I mean by that it's an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before." That pretty much sums up that the democrats used our crisis as a smoke screen to fund every program they ever wanted in the name of stimulus. The president even mocked anyone who suggested that the stimulus was wasting money and wouldn’t be effective by saying: "Spending is Stimulus, That’s the whole point" This should have been everybody’s red flag it sure was mine.

Me thinks the democrats were confident the economy would recover as it usually does in a cycle of recession. Unfortunately, this spending is having a clamping effect of everything. We all know by now that the stimulus was really not stimulating it was just spending.. Spending so gargantuan (Gargantuan, what a word and so seldom used) that we have effectively created 120% more currency. Increasing currency even by 13% which Jimmy Carter did, caused 20%+ interest rates and run away inflation.. Remember the late 70s? Reagan came in with tax cuts and the economy rebounded... not just because of tax cuts, we were in a techno curve that was ready to bloom anyway so Reagan benefited from that just as Bill Clinton benefited from the tech bubble growth leading to the tech bubble burst that Bush II inherited.

After that we lost our minds again, the republican congress spent like crazy acted very fiscally irresponsible, we had Fannie and Freddie bubbling due to congress intervening on behalf of all the downtrodden assuring everyone should own a home.. Again there is plenty of blame on both sides... however, the level of irresponsibility shown by the current congress is insane. I wrote my reps late last year complaining about this and suggesting a one-year suspension of payroll taxes and corporate taxes. That would have actually been a stimulus and we wouldn’t be in this mess. Their greed and thirst for power is killing us.

I have been looking for work for over a year. I have worked every day since I was 12 with a paper route. That’s 38 years, I have a degree and a very successful long term career. I have my second interview tomorrow for a pretty good job. That will be my second opportunity in the last 6 months. Unfortunately we have about 20% unemployment here so the competition is brutal... I hope I get a job before I lose my home. I don’t have a risky loan and I didn’t buy more than I could afford. This is what happens when you don’t get a paycheck for a year. These guys in Washington could do a much better job.

 

[konstantgrdnr]

SparkJumper you can get all the tax-breaks in the world but if the economy is failing and people are being unemployed on mass in every industry your tax breaks don't mean nothing.

The fact i was trying to get across was larger than small business tax breaks, but affects you in more profound ways then you realize. More unemployed people means more competition, which means your rate of pay as a electrician goes down because people have more choices. Supply and demand.

Just because someone knows how business has went for x amount of years has no bearing on the future. In fact i know of electricians here in California that are constantly laid off.And the waiting list for people wanting now to join the UNION is thousands of people deep. Call your local Union and See how many people are on the waiting list, they eventually will be the people you compete with to get a job.

I'm not posting this to offend you, and i truly wish you all the success in the world.It is necessary to step out of our worlds and look around often and question a lot then take action.

 

[spyvsspy]

But even that takes 5 figures to start, and most people don't have it laying around. It took me an embarrassing amount of time to get my start-up money together, and I'm only doing 6K watts..

Very true, it does take a while. I know i've been working on this for multiple years, and I'm not even a quarter of the way to where I want to be. But in this time I've learned alot, and come up with a lot of good and bad ideas. By the time I have enough capital to actually do what I want to do, I figure I will have it narrowed down and I won't start some half-assed pizza shop.............which actually might do well around here


And not all business ventures take time and 5 digits, shit..........think about the Snuggie. Now they have doggie snuggies, snuggies in every print you can think of, and knock-off snuggies. Whoever thought of that is filthy rich. One of my friends started a pool business with 2 helpers, an old backhoe and rented equipment, his startup cost was $ 6,000. Now he lives in a house that would cast a shadow on the White House

 

[konstantgrdnr]

Their are a lot of great comments can we use paragraph breaks please. My eyes are getting lost.

 

[TickleMyBalls]

I quit my job two years ago when the higher ups refused to pay me what my job was worth. I was missing out on making money, because I was always working at this bullshit job. I had a lot of responsibility, basically running a whole department of a school district, barely got compensated for all of the bullshit I had to deal with. Haven't had a job since then, and I've made 5x as much $$ both years, just because I'm not busting my ass for 30-40 hours a week for $11/hr

 

[spyvsspy]

Their are a lot of great comments can we use paragraph breaks please. My eyes are getting lost.

YEa sorry, my brain hurts too. Done and done-er konstantgrdnr.

 

[Young Pumpkin]

IT and the repair biz ain't great, hard to do a side gig when 'puters are so cheap they can buy a new laptop and upgrade everything. Trying to go full time with it and it aint happening either. Did an Interview with real low pay for my experience, didn't get it and found another ad later for the same company wanting a typist. Amazing how much more they were going to pay a typist. Some skills don't seem to count anymore. It doesn't always show (haha) but I got Mavis Beacon Typing Tutor and started on that.

Careful who works on your stuff. They may be underpaid, untrained, and pissed off too. Damn I'm getting a lil more pissed as I type this.

And to think "I" helped bailout car companies and then helped other people with jobs buy them. Its time to get off my soapbox. I guess the best way would be to smoke a bowl.....that would certainly get me an interview and a piss test....if I can just get to Fri. nite I'll take a few hits. Side benefit is tolerance is way down. Sorry for the rant.....

 

[konstantgrdnr]

I do not rail against Capitalism, but it always has gone hand in hand with greed. The pooling of modern day resources has allowed the new era of hyper-greed, to the point mass murder,disease,poverty etc.


Technological change is like an axe in the hands of a pathological criminal.
- Albert Einstein

We operate in a monopolistic society in the United States Politicians are pawns of the Holders of wealth,who pay them to more or less herd the population as they were sheep.

If it were put in a story where people were told the richest country in the world is home to people who constantly feel poor and are in debt for decisions they never made, but will spend a large portion of their lives paying off they would never believe it.

 

[ItsAllOver]

im a mechanic and I love cars too. Facts don't change just because of how we feel about them.

Word up

The reality is no amount of biofuel, ethanol, natural gas, electric, or coal will allow us to run Disney World, Wal Mart, 7-11, the highways and your grow room into the future. Everything will look much different in the future (think smaller walkable communities) and that's all im saying.

You should look into some of the statistics about the amount of energy that is flowing around you from natural processes that could be captured as electricity if we had the right technology.

I'm not mentioning that to be contrarian or to advocate for maintaining the conspicuous consumption of energy that we have practiced as societies in the last century, keep that in mind. I agree with you largely, but I don't think that people will feel a real decrease in western-style standard of living, which many people fear and which I believe your post implies.
Walkable communities are by no means a reduction in SoL (no one likes a commute), but to many, having access to quick, long distance transportation is very important. It will have to be maintained in general, because one of the reasons that our economies are as large and productive (again not talking conspicuous consumption) as they are is due to our ability to benefit from the comparative advantages of geographically separated industries. Hopefully we will work out some more efficient methods of transportation, maybe get our intercontinental rail system rolling again. (Maglev Subways, anyone?)

Peak Oil is a reality. Not to mention global warming

Check. Hopefully we will have free enough economies to allow the smaller alternative energy industries to thrive. It's funny that they appease the appropriate technology industries with federal and state tax credits for producers and homeowners, but that there are billions of dollars in federal subsidies granted to big oil companies every year. Of course I'm not advocating federal subsidies to alternative energy, either. In a free economy, alternative energy wins anyway. People are motivated strongly by rising fuel costs, and when businesses profits go down due to increased expenses in transportation, etc, they are also motivated to move to areas that make more financial sense. It is for their own good, and turns out to be for the good of all of us, anyway.

Although not everyone has done the economic analysis and has initial uninformed doubts, in some areas, wind energy and micro-hydroelectric power production can wind up cheaper than using power from the grid. Meaning, it actually makes sense to do it!
In addition, the most populated areas of the US gets enough sun to take care of almost all water heating needs without electricity. It may initially sound insignificant, but for the average home, water heating is one of the largest users of electricity.

Anyway, off on a rant I go whenever this topic comes up.

Peace

 

[Richard Gozinya]

Itsallover can you explain how wind power could ever be cheaper than nuclear or coal? Not trying to be a smartass I just don't see how that can be.

 

[SpasticGramps]

Capitalism is more representative of freedom. Freedom is the natural order of things. Freedom is not necessarily pretty. Freedom means that losers and lazy people don't make it. You are just as free to succeed as you are to fail. Yes some people are born with more opportunity than others so that means you have to work harder. Some people are born rich. That's life. Instead of trying to drag everyone down, some people need to work harder to get up.

In a lot of other places around the world your life revolves around finding the next meal. We are so afforded the luxury to moan and complain about what others have accomplished while we eat the crumbs of from politician's and CEO's plates. I hear a lot of excuses about "the man holding us down." That's what it amounts to, excuses. When trying to survive in nature there are no excuses. There is simply win or lose, have or have not, live or die. That's the reality of the situation.

 

[Kiffen]

Small business does not benefit from most tax breaks. And i can detail how large business use the tax breaks they get against the smaller companies/business on the whole. Take electrical the largest Solar Company in the United States makes solar panels in china,it does not completely finish them.The uncompleted solar panels are then shipped here and they get low wage workers who really don't need any high technical skills to complete them allowing the large corporations to reap the large tax breaks that they receive.

Yeah this type of activity is bullshit and the people to blame are called Congress.