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dmt

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though medicine and such are usually confidential, after reading and posting in a recent article, ive decided to take the bull by the horns and back my posts and create a resource for canadians whom are entitled by law access to marijuana for medical purposes.

this info was provided care of The Kind Canna Collective: truthfulness compassion tolerance

to contact this non-profit society(landlords, lisencees, growers, patients etc) you can reach
the med-man at: www.growyourownmedicine.blogspot.com

this post is not for the manipulation of system, but of ourselves to a system for our health and benefit as a whole.

i hope that this does not break any rules or guidelines in ic mag, because i will just describe my situation, and be open to comments and or question pertaining to the topics of topics in canada.

1- research the web or anywhere for info on how marijuana helps you and your ailments.keep a record of the origin of the strain that helps you most, and why. keep a journal of your use and how it compares to the study refernce material.

2- avoid eating anything artificial:aspartame, gmo foods, flouride, colors, msg, non "organic", processed, flavours etc etc read the goddam labels people

3- start a form of meditation. i recommend falun gong aka falun dafa. but anything will do. keep a medical journal of how it helps you mind, body and soul. anything will do from tai chi to seated stillness.

4- eat only the rawest most natural("organic") forms of food. the closer to the sun in the food chain the better. avoid any corporate meats, especially chicken. do your best. if you realy are sick, you will want to feel better, no?

5- find out the best way to take the cannabis that helps you the most:vapor and eating are prefered to doctors, smoking, butter, budder whatever. keep a record in your personal med Journal.

6- most doctors believe they know all there is to know about the universe and peoples biology(post secondary indoctrination), except cannabis. they are told its harmfull, addictive and just evil. this is where your own research, studies and proof come into play

7- read "the medical mafia"
take all your photocopies, research material, your journal and a balls out attitude to your doctor. make sure to have alll of your mmap forms filled out by you minus their own signature.

8- face your doctor with confidence, will, intent and determination, like you are talking to achild, because this is their knowledge about this ancient medicine. tell them about and show them your documentation on centering your diet, mind body and soul with meditation, and show the proof and studies of your own and scientists on how your particular starin suits your needs, quoting from your journal. DO NOT FLINCH IN YOUR CONVICTIONS.

9- explain that this starin, coupled with all your other life changes are your equation for well being, abd that you want control over the medicine you take by growing it yourself, and that as a canadian you have a human right to this ancient form of naturalk remedy. which will also help in your mind body soul meditation routines. give them the papers and tell them to sign,. that you are healing holistically and need holistic medicine, and reject any synthetic treatments. give them the papers and TELL them to sign. if they wont, you have a human right to a referal to a doctor whom they have to find for you to sign them. if they refuse, you have to tell them you will be forced to take them to the human rights commision courts for breaching your canadian right to marijuana as medicine.

10- with confidence and knowledge on your side, there wont be much more the doctor can do but sign or give you a referal to someone they will.

this is a very vague description of my personal experience. if you give the doctor power over you by asking what they think, you will be rejected, becuase bringing hearsay to a doctor with no proof of it is bogus in the scientific world. doctors perceive pot as stated earlier, so telling them its this wonder drug that cures you alone will not fly. be smart, you are human, take care of business. doctors are just humans with a title. just like anyone else. know your body, take steps to knowing it more, they cannot argue with science and your case studies. THEY CANNOT REFUSE YOUR HEALTH AND WELL BEING IN A HOLISTIC MANNER. D

THIS THREAD IS OPEN FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR COACHING FOR SICK PEOPLE TO GAINING ACCESS TO LEGAL CANADIAN MEDICAL MARIJUANA, THANKS
 

dmt

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to be honest bbb, i suffer from deblitating limitations from my pain, pcs and memory loss. in alot of ways, growing illegally with my health intact is equally nice. life is what we bring upon ourselvesm haha, d
 

Dr Dog

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Congrats for sure man

It was not hard for me to get my DG, but it was tough for the guy I grow for to get his
 

dmt

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well ive had mine 2 years now, this thread conerns applicants and not realy me. its bs how the medical mafia withholds natural remedies, cret wars and destroys lives in the name of profit, psychopathic pharma needs a lil can of whoop ass, this thread is for those applying or trying, not for me to boast or brag, but thanks for the support dudes, d
 

LAboutz

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thanks a lot for this post

sorry my english is bad !

I've got an car accident in 2004, has been on SAAQ for 3 years
after 1 year of growing weed illegaly ,
im' gonna immediately print all de information i got , and search what i need !
i think in couple of month i'm gonna be ready to go see DOC

thnaks again
LAbz
 

mr noodles

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in province of quebec the board /colleges des medecins doesn't allow any doctors in the province to fill paper or prescription for medicinal marijuana .its a strict order from their chiefs .

if they do they are in big shit in term of consequences , so its technically impossible to have a legit license unless you are dying .

i also know that the non-renewal of a lot of license is planned by harper adm , they will be on the butt of these people since they know they use and grow ...
 

Medical

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in province of quebec the board /colleges des medecins doesn't allow any doctors in the province to fill paper or prescription for medicinal marijuana .its a strict order from their chiefs .

if they do they are in big shit in term of consequences , so its technically impossible to have a legit license unless you are dying .

i also know that the non-renewal of a lot of license is planned by harper adm , they will be on the butt of these people since they know they use and grow ...


If Harper does anything like refusing to allow us to renew he will be up shit creek without a paddle! He will be violating our rights under the Charter!

The same goes for Quebec DR.

Originally when I went to my Dr. to get him to sign, I went in for my regular visit to renew my oxy script. I informed him that we were making a change in my medications, handed him the completed MMAR forms which only required his signature and stamp. Then dumped a years worth of pill bottles full on his desk! Informed him that I had been using MMJ for a year and would continue to do so!
He signed and gave me shit for waiting so long!
 

dmt

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in province of quebec the board /colleges des medecins doesn't allow any doctors in the province to fill paper or prescription for medicinal marijuana .its a strict order from their chiefs .

if they do they are in big shit in term of consequences , so its technically impossible to have a legit license unless you are dying .

i also know that the non-renewal of a lot of license is planned by harper adm , they will be on the butt of these people since they know they use and grow ...


hey man, there are 305 card holders in quebec, 1 whom ive helped personally in montreal(he had no issues). there are 162 practitioners and 305 patients in quebec as of june 2009. its seems you are pretty uninformed about hcmm, so i cant realy trust the fearmongering you've put forth concerning harper.

as of june 2009 there are 4009 card holders and 1977 doctors willing across canada. i know of 8 others ive helped with pending applications and i talked to health canada yesterday for my renewal and upgrade in amount(bad car accident on tuesday again:( they said they are overwelmed now with applications and falling behind under the workload. since june 01 20 applications per month to 200 june 09 a month.

please inform yourself before misleading anyone trying their best to gain the courage to face their physicians. this thread is to help not hinder, i would appreciate any misleading info to be kept to oneself, or create your own thread, thanks for your understanding, and good luck, d
 

mr noodles

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im sorry but my generalist and rhumathologist dont want to sign anything and told the same story . i even contacted the colleges des medecins and they told me they prohibited all their members to prescribe marijuana for any reason . maybe they lied to me ...they told me a lot of license will not be renewed too in a near future ...i dont want to spread panic or false information but i share my personal and recent experience .

i have to had that i live in a rural and remote area and physicians are rarity , waiting list are more than 8 to 14 months for an appointment .




all they do is prescription... their novelty for me is lyrica ... full of side effects...no balance like a drunktard ,no way i can drive on this ...the new god of medecine in quebec is supeudol ...
 

LAboutz

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please inform yourself before misleading anyone trying their best to gain the courage to face their physicians. this thread is to help not hinder, i would appreciate any misleading info to be kept to oneself, or create your own thread, thanks for your understanding, and good luck, d

merci de soutenir la cause !

thanks alot,!
LAbz
 

mr noodles

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please inform yourself before misleading anyone trying their best to gain the courage to face their physicians. this thread is to help not hinder, i would appreciate any misleading info to be kept to oneself, or create your own thread, thanks for your understanding, and good luck, d


well ...what to say to this ?

this is your helping hand ?

first off you came here at icmag for what ? telling people not to reply in a thread because they told their experience with the system and you dont like it ?

what do you want in fact ? you said you want to help peoples to get to their legit satus and all you do is calling me a liar ? i gave you a clean and honest story of what ive been told just 2 months ago .

instead of advertising yourself like a guru or something and telling peoples what to do here at icmag , just go and inform yourself directly to the colleges des medecins about having a doctors filling and signing the b1 . only way is to have a terminal ill .they even skip part of class 1 !

the prescription part will never be filled and the b1 never signed . they send a memo to ALL the practician in quebec . i contacted other specialist in vein to get my paper signed and none will do it period and i am class 1 and i can be in class 2 for 4 very serious conditions .all i get is pills prescriptions tons of it

its a legal situation ...

ive been told to go in ontario because its very different situation than the freaking quebec

call me a liar if you want but you clearly ignore facts about quebec and you refute true experience because it fuck your thread ?

im sorry but i dont thing forum regulation prohibe me to tell a real life experience and if you are an helping hand like you pretend to be why did you act like that ?

i am the one misleading peoples because i lived this situation ? i want to spread fear ? you think i have not the courage to face my physician with confidence ? i told the truth and that the way you reacted ? i will not pollute your idealistic thread again with real life experience .

keep promoting falun gong or organisation like that...

:fsu:
 

MoeBudz^420

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Getting a medcard here should not be so difficult. I have read heavily into it, and yes, you pretty much must be dying.

Here's the list, right from gov't site...

Category 1: This category is comprised of any symptoms treated within the context of providing compassionate end-of-life care; or the symptoms associated with the specified medical conditions listed in the schedule to the Regulations, namely:

•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from multiple sclerosis;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from a spinal cord injury;
•Severe pain and/or persistent muscle spasms from spinal cord disease;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from cancer;
•Severe pain, cachexia, anorexia, weight loss, and/or severe nausea from HIV/AIDS infection;
•Severe pain from severe forms of arthritis; or
•Seizures from epilepsy.

There is also a "category 2", & it states "other debilatating illnesses with recommendation of a specialist"


I consider my use medicinal, approx a gram/day for many years - and it does do me much good. But insomnia and stress relief aren't good enough for them...

I'd love to be legal - and would gladly pay for the permit. But alas, they're too hard-headed to look at the facts.

so...

Until they pull their heads out of their arses + get it right - we'll just have to do it the "old fashioned way". :rasta:



Peace
 

dmt

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im sorry but my generalist and rhumathologist dont want to sign anything and told the same story . i even contacted the colleges des medecins and they told me they prohibited all their members to prescribe marijuana for any reason . maybe they lied to me ...they told me a lot of license will not be renewed too in a near future ...i dont want to spread panic or false information but i share my personal and recent experience .

i have to had that i live in a rural and remote area and physicians are rarity , waiting list are more than 8 to 14 months for an appointment .




all they do is prescription... their novelty for me is lyrica ... full of side effects...no balance like a drunktard ,no way i can drive on this ...the new god of medecine in quebec is supeudol ...

i would take them to the canadian human rights commision. sorry too, iwasnt tryng to scold you. i just like to be clear and direct so there is no misunderstanding. your experience was not listed in your first post. its a matter of time and pressure for alot of people. d
 

dmt

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well ...what to say to this ?

this is your helping hand ?

first off you came here at icmag for what ? telling people not to reply in a thread because they told their experience with the system and you dont like it ?

what do you want in fact ? you said you want to help peoples to get to their legit satus and all you do is calling me a liar ? i gave you a clean and honest story of what ive been told just 2 months ago .

instead of advertising yourself like a guru or something and telling peoples what to do here at icmag , just go and inform yourself directly to the colleges des medecins about having a doctors filling and signing the b1 . only way is to have a terminal ill .they even skip part of class 1 !

the prescription part will never be filled and the b1 never signed . they send a memo to ALL the practician in quebec . i contacted other specialist in vein to get my paper signed and none will do it period and i am class 1 and i can be in class 2 for 4 very serious conditions .all i get is pills prescriptions tons of it

its a legal situation ...

ive been told to go in ontario because its very different situation than the freaking quebec

call me a liar if you want but you clearly ignore facts about quebec and you refute true experience because it fuck your thread ?

im sorry but i dont thing forum regulation prohibe me to tell a real life experience and if you are an helping hand like you pretend to be why did you act like that ?

i am the one misleading peoples because i lived this situation ? i want to spread fear ? you think i have not the courage to face my physician with confidence ? i told the truth and that the way you reacted ? i will not pollute your idealistic thread again with real life experience .

keep promoting falun gong or organisation like that...

:fsu:

you need to take that energy and attitude to your doctors not us here. a guru, you must be joking? im a human being. read my signiture. if u want help, ll help you, if not, thats fine too. ive never claimed to be anything you accuse me of. take your hi powered insight and direct them where they should go, YOURSELF. if ragging on disabled people is your thing, i hope you got off. if you have nothing nice to say, please keep it to yourself, thanks, d
 

mr noodles

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you need to take that energy and attitude to your doctors not us here. a guru, you must be joking? im a human being. read my signiture. if u want help, ll help you, if not, thats fine too. ive never claimed to be anything you accuse me of. take your hi powered insight and direct them where they should go, YOURSELF. if ragging on disabled people is your thing, i hope you got off. if you have nothing nice to say, please keep it to yourself, thanks, d


go and read yourself on page 1 , look what i typed in my first post and look the fucking way you replied .

its a public board and i dont break any rules by replying to you, after the way you act toward me .

and for the last draw of accusation of raggin on disabled people ???? wtf are you smokin ? :fsu:

thats some serious accusation here and i dont accept it at all .

seriously you go in a very strange way here...first recommend a bunch of controversial stuff like fallung gong wich is highly contested worlwide...then you supported harper in a reply directed to me and told im lying and dont gave you enough info ???..all i did i giving some pertinent information about the current legal situation and all you did is being rude is that what you call raging on disable when we replied on such grave accusation ? go read page 1 again ...

people who want to go the legal way in canada need some serious complete legal advise . knowledge of the current medical and political jurisdiction and particularity in each province .

306 cards holder in a province of 7 000 000 sound like a great thing for you.....we should be at least 150 000 yet only in class 1 .

you want to give hope ? but just be certain you dont drive helpless people directly into a wall .

harper and hope cannot be in the same post and being considered serious , sorry c-15 is on is way and watch your butt even in the legal system...when you applied they have all on you for their database , when refused what do you think happen ? maybe they just know you are growing/use ...

at this time just applying can be a real hazardous situation in some province and this should not be taken lightly .

ask roger ferland a legal user who was busted , the cops weighted the 5 gallon wet promix with all the root just to pump the weight over the limit .no balance,no sale , nothing !

GUESS WHAT HE LOST IN COURT AND IS LICENSE WAS REMOVED AND HES CONDEMNED TO 1 YEARS OF JAIL SERVED IN IS HOUSE .HE IS UNDER POLICE HARASSMENT ON A WEEKLY BASIS .

NOT A SERIOUS MATTER ?
 

dmt

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if anyone has any questions from an objective source, call health canada for info.
you dont need a lawyer. police are the last people allowed in a medical marijuana grow op. nobody is allowed in unless you consent to a search. be infromed, know your rights.

canadians have a legal human right to access marijuana for medical purposes, since 2001, never forget that.

ive prevented police twice now from entering my home and grow, nothing happened. what matters the most is safety and being up to code with structural and electrical and plumbing, safety first. taking advice from people whom dont have their cards or experience in the medical marijuana community in canada is like taking legal advice from a car sales man=hearsay.

the only way to loose your med card is by being an uncompliant idiot. going over plant numbers, selling your meds to undercovers etc, you reap what you sow.

question everything you see and here, especially me.

if you believe that med pot is unaccessable, that is the reality you will create for yourself. if you believe you haver an ailment which requires natural remedy you can access legally through health canada, you will get your card. acts speak far louder then words. ive met over 100 canadians with their licenses. none have been arresetd, they are protected by health canada as long as they are compliant. this post is for motivational/informative purposes. its not meant to be taken personally or conflict with other peoples realities they create for themselves.

if you dont help yourself first, no one will, peace, d

ps i found no archives on people being arrested for health canada grows. police harass anyone whom dont know their rights, because that is their training. media mentality people not only believe deceptive information word for word, but form their lives around this deception which puts them at the centre of the universe, which makes every word or act from anyone else an attack on themselves and dogmatic propogated beliefs. like the way the government convinced quebec to seperate from canada, with the belief they were better then everyone else. im very informed and my words and acts are based in the realm of experience, not what a politician wants me to believe.

imvho, noodles seems like an agent workin for dea or cia, trying to suppress my insights to help others. maybe noodles works for health canada and doesnt want anyone else applying because they are now overwhelmed. ive helped 8 people get there cards, for ligitamate purposes. they were just scared to talk to authority figures, just like noodles.....if anyone thinks my beneficial information os dentrimental, then get your h1n1 vaccine, keep drinking diet sodas and eating fast food and letting television do all your thinking for you, cest la vie
 

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