Is civilization about to fall?

[cork144]

Sorry... couldn't watch the guy for more than 60 seconds. I tried.

its hard, but listen to what people channal not the channeler

 

[DiscoBiscuit]

cork144, that's the hard part.

 

[bkind]

"What a travesty in this country, to watch America the great republic being raped by the British Royalty." Wow I have some interesting conversation topics for a special lawyer I know. Thanks for the vid cork.

 

[cork144]

yea the video (if people would actually watch) puts up some questions not even hoois can dismiss.

 

[dmt]

cork, j max has been my homie for like 6 years now, he knows his stuff, great link, d

 

[AndreNicky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG3xH3LJbBg

Thanks for the vid! This documentary expands more on the subject
http://www.wakeupproject.com/VList.asp?Series=1

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

Brace for Impact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Brace for Impact!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq99snleP4E&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9psap4l-Yc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGGm...E10A6803&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=24

 

[cork144]

what i hate about the NWO, is the ignorence is all thats allowed it to work.

 

[cork144]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPnCz_rtIv8

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I'm going Cork!

I'm going Cork!

I am going to those coffins, this week!!!


...I am sitting beside my brain damaged son right now. He can't speak. I am with tears at this moment. I lost my dear brother to the nwo vaccine...and he wears the marine corps uniform in a coffin, where he rests.

By looking at the bush family, I believe I can honestly say that I look related to these people. But my family is from Lebanon, who sold the cedar planks for pharoah to build his boat.
...And we road these boats across the oceans...we have been your trustworthy merchants through the centuries...bringing you all sorts of fine items from the globe.
-I have been here since the begining of this dark ordered civilization...you know who I am, and I know who you are.

You have gained power over our benevolence and love for you. I have been here for you since the first day on the Mountain. We have died hungry to give you food and rest. We have always loved you.

Today, I hold the Light from the great field....the light of knowingness.
...I too, stand with the three symbols of Egypt.

NWO, you have forgotten that I have been accorded a special place inside the boat of the sun, as it rises. You have been jealous of my place next to the divine mother. And you have witnessed that I kissed her hand.
-And like her, I wear the white feather of truth.

I am not my body. I am not the mind-body.
-Your self deceptions cannot take the place of truth.
...my mind holds only what I think from the great mother.

You cannot receive by taking, or mutating your body-mind progenies.
Your prison house is proof of your insanity....leave this darkness and come home. We are the light of your secret heart.

Let the grievances away, and return to us.

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

From the makers of Asthma and Aluminum Cans....

From the makers of Asthma and Aluminum Cans....




www.casescorner.com/id9.html

Does the above image of Jet contrails look a bit extreme to you?
It's because they aren't contrails, they ARE "Chemtrails,"
Chemtrails are aerosols that are intentionally sprayed into the atmosphere without the public's consent.
And It's very likely to be happening in the skies over where you live! (Nobody bothers to look up?!)


Conspiracies are a simple fact of life. Governments, organizations, corporations as well as individuals, all have conspired to keep certain truths hidden from 'the masses,' surely no one can deny that fact. By reading the news every day, this can easily be seen -- governments releasing slow, but steady streams of recently declassified documents, with details on secret human testing from recent decades, denied ... until now. Information that should be public knowledge, is covered-up because it would shock and anger the public. Eventually, Incredible hard-to-believe secrets, have a way of leaking out and sometimes, it's easy enough to put the clues together to get a glimpse behind the shadowy curtain of secrecy and finally see the startling truth for what it is ... A LIE, TOLD TO YOU BY THOSE YOU TRUSTED! After time passes, the populus often discovers that the conspiracy "theories," were not theories at all, but hidden FACT. Having said that, Don't we seem to easily forgive and forget, those in the mainstream media ... who told us, (time after time) we were; "wackos, kooks, kool-aid drinkers, etc. for believing those "Conspiracy Theories," that now ... have been proven as fact?! Personally? It's sad to say -- I don't hardly believe anything I hear from the 'mainstream' media, be it TV, or Radio anymore ... Consider the following article:

Military To Test New Weapons on US Citizens ...
Before Using Them Against The Enemy in Battle?!
In an effort to avoid international criticism if they were to cause injury to the enemy, the US military wishes to tryout non-lethal devices such as high-powered microwave weapons on United States Citizens, BEFORE using them on the battlefield in war situations abroad.
As if rubber bullets, beanbag rounds, flash-bang grenades, foam & stun grenades, sticky foam, CS gas, (tear gas) xenon lights, PSYOPs type loudspeakers and pepper spray weren't enough to 'calm US down,' (and in some cases, KILL us) ... Air Force secretary Michael Wynne says that by testing the high-powered microwave weapons in a domestic environment, before using them in foreign battlefield situations, many possible international concerns about the safety of the weapons could be avoided. The non-lethal weapons being developed typically weaken victims when hit by a beam, or disable other electronic devices by emitting a series of short but intense pulses. The capability of such a weapon is varied in that it cannot only disrupt enemy communications, but can also superheat (cook) internal organs. Of course, directing these types of weapons towards people, (as some of those listed above) automatically eliminates it from the "non-lethal" classification. Developed in the Los Alamos National Laboratory, the high-powered microwave weapon forms its signal similar to RF weapons, in that it directs the energy into a high-powered pulse and destroys transistors and other electrical equipment as well.
Here's a Snippet From AP report:
"The object is basically public relations. Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions from others about possible safety considerations," said Secretary Michael Wynne.
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it against the enemy in a wartime situation," said Wynne. "(Because) if I hit somebody with a non-lethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."
The Ideology behind this, is referred to as; "MOOTW" (Military Operations Other Than War)
Sources: Take Your Pick!

Oh, I almost forgot to mention ...
US Code Title 50, Section 1520a from Chapter 32,
(see section below; 'APPLICABLE PLACES TO VISIT' - "Chemtrail Spraying Is Illegal Under U.S. Law"):
Chemical and Biological Warfare Program says; "restrictions on the use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents allows for the use of biological agent on a civilian population for Any peaceful purpose that is related to a medical, therapeutic, pharmaceutical, agricultural, industrial, or research activity. OR, Any purpose that is directly related to protection against toxic chemicals or biological weapons and agents. OR, Any law enforcement purpose, including any purpose related to riot control, as long as report has been submitted to congress 30 days previously and CONSENT to the testing is obtained from each human subject in advance of the testing."
(That pretty much gives 'them' carte blanch, to spray anything on us at anytime, doesn't it?) Well, have YOU given YOUR consent to have chemical laden Aerosols 'SPRAYED' down upon YOU and your family, almost EVERY Day? I Don't F--kin' THINK So!!

OK, that being said, let me ask you ... Were YOU told about this? Did you hear about this on any local radio station, or Television station, See/hear about it via 'mainstream media' such as FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS or NBC?
IS IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE, That THERE'S NO END TO WHAT 'THEY' ARE capable of?!
It was around the summer of 98,' when those phantom 'spray planes' first appeared in our skies ... Ever since then, there's been a ongoing, high-level campaign of discreditidation and ridicule, directed at anyone who points out the strange anomalies occurring above.
Today, chemtrails are still being sprayed into the atmosphere world-wide, at yet even, a more frantic pace. Of course the mainstream media, along with corporate and scientific 'big-wigs' continue to ignore the facts and eagerly assist in covering up the evidence. As a result, we 'bottom feeders' continue to suffer from the deleterious effects of global atmospheric modification.

A 1992 report of the National Research Council4 was the first to systematically estimate the potential costs of a program of stratospheric albedo modification. Their estimate wasbased on the use of a standard naval gun system dispensing commercial aluminum oxidedust to counteract the warming effect of a CO2 doubling. Undiscounted annual costs for a40-year project were estimated to be $100 billion. More recent analysis5 has suggested that well designed systems might reduce this cost to as little as a fewhundred milliondollars per year – clearly well within the budget of almost all nations, and much lesscostly than any program to dramatically reduce the emissions of CO2 .

Indeed, there are ahandful of individuals who could create the endowment necessary to generate an annualannuity to operate such a program.

 

[guest396]

you're misunderstanding. your last post was a lot better in the grammar and punctuation department... so... even though you're getting all butt-hurt about it, you're responding to my criticism. I'm not being judgmental... just saying that when somebody asks you to speak (or write) more clearly, its a legit request. Even though you are arguing, you're doing it because it obviously makes you easier to understand... and most humans want to be understood. Thanks.

you have never hurt me butt, or otherwise. lol. what i want is for you in your higher opinon of yourself realize, that you are not the creator, and that you don't know without asking why i type the way i do. do you? so you are being judgemental. something i don't allow people to do to me that are within my hands grasp. understand? that's where the offer to get together comes in(your a little slow huh?) not cause i like you or want to meet. you see i want you to come off your hill and meet with me so you will understand in your heart of hearts why you would never have the minerals to speak to me that way in person and that by learning that FACT, you would have the slightest bit of humility within yourself. understanding there are just some people on the planet you just don't wanna fuck with. i am not one of them, just in the top two of the runner ups, and my uncle is gettin' old.

If this makes you feel like shit, I would posit that its a personal self esteem issue and not something I did or said. I was not judgmental, did not call you names, only backed up another person who asked you to speak more clearly (in, from what I remember, a pretty direct and non-judgmental way) I wish more people would take more time to make their posts legible because clear communication is usually the best communication. I'm also not using the fallacious argument that because your grammar is bad your ideas are somehow lacking. What I did say was that people might want to hear you allaborate on them as offered if you were writing in an easier to comprehend matter.

i got enough self esteem to talk your wife outta her panties. doesn't mean i'm into slummin, tho. you are a judgemental dick. you didn't ask why i typed that way, you just assumed which is why, before you comment, i wanted you to know, i think you are a hermaphrodite. because you simultaniously, while being a dick, are also a pussy.

You think I have some kind of problem with you, but I don't. I just disagree with some of your ideas. You PMed me and asked if I was messianic. I responded that I did not have mothership fantasies. I can read and understand hebrew and aramaic and have studied Talmud in a yeshiva setting and on my own and it is my OPINION when combined with everything else I understand about the world, that the messianic component to religions is qualitatively comparable to believing that a mothership will be coming to pick up all the believers before the earth destroys itself.

this was your fantasy, i was refering to something else. but since you mentioned it, i'll comment. i think your studies have been worthless so far or that the benefit has yet to take hold. why? because our law does not say to belittle one's brother/neighbor. you have tried to publicly do just that. and without cause. you understand shit.

So you are taking disagreement with your ideas for a personal problem i have with you. And remember, you asked ME the one word question "messianic?" I just answered it. You're way off base. I'm down to hang out with anyone in the 707 (who is 215 compliant) and smoke a joint, but if you are this big a drama queen in person, we're just not going to get along.

here's where we get some light shed on the subject. "for a personal problem i have with you." what personal problem? me being messianic? i don't even know you, and as i said before i don't think you'll come meet me so..... i guess it will have to remain personal. if you feel i didn't give you enough clarity in my post via my spelling and punctuation, you just let me know where i can meet YOU for a lesson, and together, i promise you, we will both learn something. now spout more shit from the safety of your tree fort.

ohgee

 

[genkisan]

Politics and the trading of personal insults does not a viable ICmag thread make........

 

[Mr. Alkaline]

I agree that I wanted to see threads that revolve around negative senario, to become closed topics.

I have always existed on icmag to create threads that have souls.
-There is nothing more uncomortabe for me to fix my attention on negative factors which could easily be responsible for the effect of sudden/and-or-slow, population deaths.

I know that you are not saying that you desire that we turn a collective blind eye to these negative things...btw...I am tired of feeling my heart throb, over the big picture which includes negatives and positives together as 'one' entity...or rather...today's diagnosis.

Sometimes it is BEST not to tell the cancer victim how much mutation has spread throughout the system.

What is most helpful is to tell the individual that he/she WILL die if you do not begin a habitual routine to honor the system of checks and balances that eliminates cancer through your own natural, innate life processes.

I have changed my deotorant to one that is aluminum free. ALSO, I plan to buy a heavy metal herbal cleanse late today.

I am not a moderator, but I would never want to lose a thread that steps over the mortal overlay of Fear, and into distinctions which can assist mankinds survival.

Honestly, I am suspicious of those who desire to dumb down the forum lurkers because they are afraid to explore the dark compartments that can paralyze civilizations...intentionally or otherwise.

Maybe we should all do indeed sit next to a dead body for an hour each week, to aid our awareness of what is real and nearest in proximity to the dissolution of our life task(s).

We are here to help save lives...and not the 'right' kind of life...I'd like to see the globalist mission statement of population control to change dramatically,...becaue it dosn't have our input. Itcan't start at Mt. Olympus....and since it has!....let's merge as ONE purpse to get it sent out as a rough draft!.....rather than the full implementation, under full disclosure.

Dear Moderater, if you feel that it does not belong to us to witness our brothers and sisters viewpoints and subsequent synergies which lead to motivated solutions,...I do understand that we are destined for mission statement no. 1, and that this thread should be closed from heartfelt sharing and spirited participation, by us and our children.
We are the World.

This is the djed Pillar.
-I give this pillar to all, as a symbol of Regeneration and Stability.
...may the point of light, that resides in your heart-rest upon it's:
*Strength, *Guidance, *Wisdom and *Power

May we never fall, or fail to stand Firm.

 

[daddy fingaz]

My question is were do we go from here, when the general populous seems happy to turn a blind eye !?

 

[xxd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f0sDWcZ4IY&NR=1

Thank you for the video, I had no idea!
XXd

 

[nomaad]

you have never hurt me butt, or otherwise. lol. what i want is for you in your higher opinon of yourself realize, that you are not the creator, and that you don't know without asking why i type the way i do. do you? so you are being judgemental. something i don't allow people to do to me that are within my hands grasp. understand? that's where the offer to get together comes in(your a little slow huh?) not cause i like you or want to meet. you see i want you to come off your hill and meet with me so you will understand in your heart of hearts why you would never have the minerals to speak to me that way in person and that by learning that FACT, you would have the slightest bit of humility within yourself. understanding there are just some people on the planet you just don't wanna fuck with. i am not one of them, just in the top two of the runner ups, and my uncle is gettin' old.



i got enough self esteem to talk your wife outta her panties. doesn't mean i'm into slummin, tho. you are a judgemental dick. you didn't ask why i typed that way, you just assumed which is why, before you comment, i wanted you to know, i think you are a hermaphrodite. because you simultaniously, while being a dick, are also a pussy.



this was your fantasy, i was refering to something else. but since you mentioned it, i'll comment. i think your studies have been worthless so far or that the benefit has yet to take hold. why? because our law does not say to belittle one's brother/neighbor. you have tried to publicly do just that. and without cause. you understand shit.



here's where we get some light shed on the subject. "for a personal problem i have with you." what personal problem? me being messianic? i don't even know you, and as i said before i don't think you'll come meet me so..... i guess it will have to remain personal. if you feel i didn't give you enough clarity in my post via my spelling and punctuation, you just let me know where i can meet YOU for a lesson, and together, i promise you, we will both learn something. now spout more shit from the safety of your tree fort.

ohgee

wow... you're pretty bent. called me a lot of names there... who's not butthurt? and did you make some kind of off-color comment about my wife?! seriously? let's see if I can think up some insults to throw back at you from my tree fort... on second thought, that would be a total waste of time and energy. I'd just end up looking like a tool... get it? You may be the baddest ass badass who I don't want to fuck with, but an inability to take simple criticism with poise just makes you look like a silly child. remember... this is all based on you being asked to type more clearly so people could understand what you're saying. what a waste of time. now that you have, and your posts are actually legible (thanks) the only thing coming out of you is a bunch of wind.

 

[sallyforthDeleted member 75382]

What will be....will be.

All that ever is, is a hologram and reality is composed by the collective consiousness.

Everything is nothing and nothing is everything.

Think

 

[AntelopeDope]

Man has always had a fascination with end times, it is the only definite thing we have in this life - death. (Sorry, health insurance is not definite)

If allowed, this can consume the totality of ones thoughts and actions. I do not believe we will see a global fall of civilization in any fathomable future. Global warming is fake, which some view as the omnipresent threat to global society.

On the average, people are naturally good. We take great solace in our advancements, our comforts of living, and most importantly our ethical progression. I do not believe that these accomplishments - though they may seem like fickle, and purely physical, can be simply erased from our existence. The physical is merely the representation of the idea.

Society will change and is changing. Every second we are alive, every input we will write on this forum, all incorporates into the macro-scale change of society. Though we are micro, in our individual form, there is no macro without us.

We have our issues. A police state is a scary thing. We are advancing ever closer to it in America - especially so with universal "this", regulated "that, etc. The police are the largest brainwashed demographic in our country. Not politically brainwashed, but rather operationally.

A government that can give you everything, has the power to take it all from you. A rough paraphrase of Thomas Jefferson. Liberty is innate in each of us, though we may not fully understand it, the ability to chose our path will overpower tyranny.

So long as we have the past to learn from, and free flow of information to guide us into the future, we will be just fine.

 

[cork144]

Politics and the trading of personal insults does not a viable ICmag thread make........

only because people who dont agree with the topic decide their opinions must be heard, even if they have no infomation to back up claims at all.