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Blue Dot
I think you are confused. The laws I'm talking about (215 and SB420) are actually laws that allow you to legally grow cannabis.
I think you are confused. The laws I'm talking about (215 and SB420) are actually laws that allow you to legally grow cannabis.
I think you are confused. It attempts to tell the producer how much he can charge for his product. This is not the right of the government. So if you add costs such as your legal defense fund to the price of your weed you can be prosecuted.
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Blue Dot
Baby steps.
You said "growing" not "how much".
You thought they would allow you to grow AND charge whatever you want all in the first MJ law?
At least we can grow without fear. That's a big step and one I'd take over profit anyday.
nephilthim
Member
krikee blue dot just cause bonni dumbass keeps rubbing cockheads with every s.d. disp
isn't solving the need of medicinal patients,inasmuch as you cast dispersions at anyone making a buck,you haven't promulgated any solutions or did you pull anything off this year?were you to afraid?no one wants the risk without some reward current pricing is a manifestation of supply and demand and to a large part doing your homework.
being there is a dearth of dispensaries presently in s.d. blued dot you should find it easy to network with others for a good deal collectively.I am sure there are plenty of members here that wouldn't want to pass up the opportunity to have you more impaired in hopes you would post less.
isn't solving the need of medicinal patients,inasmuch as you cast dispersions at anyone making a buck,you haven't promulgated any solutions or did you pull anything off this year?were you to afraid?no one wants the risk without some reward current pricing is a manifestation of supply and demand and to a large part doing your homework.
being there is a dearth of dispensaries presently in s.d. blued dot you should find it easy to network with others for a good deal collectively.I am sure there are plenty of members here that wouldn't want to pass up the opportunity to have you more impaired in hopes you would post less.
How much? How much bread can I make? All I want. How much aloe can I grow? As much as I can fit on my property. You know what I want? I want the government out of my business. If I want to grow pot I want to be able to just like American's have been able to do for most of our history. One person growing 6 plants may be able to grow safely but if you want to really grow a lot of different strains and a large amount you aren't safe. Again, it is not the government's business to regulate how much pot I grow or how much I sell it for. Blue Dot, if you openly admitted that you were playing the devils advocate I don't think I would find myself disliking your posts so much. But its when you say things like you agree with the laws and that you think that the government should be able to tell us how much we can sell our product for that I find your posts and ideas most repugnant.
Whether courts say you should take out money for legal defense ahead of time or not .... its best to have something stocked away. I didnt and the amount of stress it put me through should be worth another 100k .... so perhaps we should account for that too ? Definetly had a great affect on me and certainly gave me more reason to use mmj. As far as be monetarily conpensated for the trauma the sherriff put me through ? 100k is cheap. Until the cops treat us like real citizens and obey the laws pot will stay expensive... just how it is.
With health insurance officials making saleries like these I think the growers compensation for supplying meds and risking their freedom for doing it is pretty reasonable.
CEOs making annual salaries like these:
Aetna, Ronald A. Williams: $24,300,112
Cigna, H. Edward Hanway: $12,236,740
Coventry, Dale Wolf: $9,047,469
Health Net, Jay Gellert: $4,425,355
Humana, Michael McCallister: $4,764,309
U. Health Group, Stephen J. Hemsley: $3,241,042
Wellpoint, Angela Braly: $9,844,212
CEOs making annual salaries like these:
Aetna, Ronald A. Williams: $24,300,112
Cigna, H. Edward Hanway: $12,236,740
Coventry, Dale Wolf: $9,047,469
Health Net, Jay Gellert: $4,425,355
Humana, Michael McCallister: $4,764,309
U. Health Group, Stephen J. Hemsley: $3,241,042
Wellpoint, Angela Braly: $9,844,212
I have said to friends that anyone growing for ANYONE other than themselves better have a lawyer on retainer OR have a good chunk of cash set aside for a potential bust.
IMO - if you are providing to patients or doing a large grow and do not have a plan like this, your doing it wrong. But then again, im not doing either of these so im just thinking ideally, not realistically.
IMO - if you are providing to patients or doing a large grow and do not have a plan like this, your doing it wrong. But then again, im not doing either of these so im just thinking ideally, not realistically.
I find it interesting you used insurance providers rather than pharmaceutical's for this. Mind sharing your thoughts?
I worked in life insurance for 8 years as an assistant and i have a true hatred for that whole industry now. The people running those companies are nothing more than sharks circling and waiting for the kill. It is sickening.
haha, fair enough then. I was looking at the companies and was like "wow.. babba must have a serious bone to pick with his insurance company" lol.
I think the intent of Prop 215 was to get cannabis to patients as cheaply and as efficiently as possible.
BD demonstrates his propensity for straw man arguments yet again. I was addressing his notion that a legitimate expense is not legitimate, and he fires back with the logically fallacious appeal to authority.
Hey, I found a pic of BD. I didn't realize he was such a dapper fellow.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=7354&pictureid=202762
BD demonstrates his propensity for straw man arguments yet again. I was addressing his notion that a legitimate expense is not legitimate, and he fires back with the logically fallacious appeal to authority.
Hey, I found a pic of BD. I didn't realize he was such a dapper fellow.
http://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=7354&pictureid=202762
BD sounds a lot like a welfare recipient. Wants every thing for nothing. Guess a WIC system need to be in place. Why should there be any need to reimburse the growers for time, power, water,cost/depreciation of equipment,work, trimming, rent/mortgage payments for a place to grow, gas to and from the point of sale and the car it's transported in, legal retainer(yes it's needed) and other cost that a giveme never understands, and the fact that if the grower makes no profit to make the venture/risk worthwhile no one would waste their time to grow and deliver for his right to consumption. Maybe in the world of pot socialism everything would be utopia.
Ocean Grown
Member
Without BD in your day, we would have only 4 posts a day to read.
50% of the posts involve him so don't toss out the baby with the bathwater. Just smile and be glad your MP3 player has more than one tune.....over and over.
50% of the posts involve him so don't toss out the baby with the bathwater. Just smile and be glad your MP3 player has more than one tune.....over and over.
Well let me ask this then - what about those people that are doing small scale grows and providing for 5 people or so and they also work a 40 hour a week tax paying job? Now do they have the right to bill rent/mortgage on that when they can cover it with their tax paying job? This is something that has always bothered me.
The people that drop the normal 9 to 5 and start growing full time, then yes, i think they should be able to as they have no other means to pay their rent/mortgage. But I think its taking advantage when your collecting a paycheck and incorporating that portion of expenses into your price per pound/ounce.
Babba - i would like to hear your thoughts on it as I feel you do grow full time (dont know for sure but assuming with the 20k lawyer discussion earlier).
The people that drop the normal 9 to 5 and start growing full time, then yes, i think they should be able to as they have no other means to pay their rent/mortgage. But I think its taking advantage when your collecting a paycheck and incorporating that portion of expenses into your price per pound/ounce.
Babba - i would like to hear your thoughts on it as I feel you do grow full time (dont know for sure but assuming with the 20k lawyer discussion earlier).
Many people work outside the home while operating a second business out of their home. When operating a "business" in your home you are allowed to deduct expenses on your taxes for the portion of your home that that business is operated out of and the expenses you incur to operate said business. You also pay taxes on moneys generated from that portion of the location. So if you operate and maintain a grow for profit out of that dedicated portion of the location why wouldn't you be able to make a profit or pay for a portion of the mortgage off that grow?
Profit, right or wrong in the eyes of who's looking at it is the primary incentive for many who grow. Take that part out of it and see how many choices of Mexican brick weed will soon be on display down at the local pot shop.
Profit, right or wrong in the eyes of who's looking at it is the primary incentive for many who grow. Take that part out of it and see how many choices of Mexican brick weed will soon be on display down at the local pot shop.
Actually, it's the primary incentive for anyone who grows. The profit may not be defined in dollars, but it's profit nevertheless. Yes, the Corrals grow for profit. They just define profits in warm fuzzies instead of currency.
Actually I am a general contractor and just grow for my wife and myself. I had 9 plants outside and my county charged me with possesion of 72 pounds. I got a big name lawyer and kicked their ass but believe me it cost a ton. Came very close to losing our house and I am far from over the stress it has caused . Ive taken care of many ppls need as far as meds go but never been a real caretaker and never charged.
Growing for yourself results in a profit of enough cannabis to supply yourself. If you didn't pay $350 for that ounce, you've got $350 more than you would have if you hadn't grown.
Wait you had 9 plants for two people and they charged you? That is ridiculous.
