No, I am saying they want to hold us strictly accountable...for loosely written Laws--
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Word from the Obama Admin is coming on mmj
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No, I am saying they want to hold us strictly accountable...for loosely written Laws--
What advantage I see in the issuing of this memo is that States who are contemplating a change in their own policies may see this as a way forward. Without the Federal influence hanging over the topic, many more states may decide to join the current states.
Thank you, Mr President
Thank you, Mr President
old news my ass... maybe if you're in a friendly county but this sends a nice fuck you to all the counties that continue to ignore state law in favor of enforcing federal laws (like to see them apply that same mentality to the prison system)... for growers it's a green light... brokers, club owners, etc... not so much
How is it a green light for growers??
SeniorBuzz
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Holder Vows To End Raids On Medical Marijuana Clubs
First Posted: 02-26-09 09:53 AM | Updated: 03-29-09 05:12 AM
but the ones who are not in compliance with state guidelines will still be shut down
First Posted: 02-26-09 09:53 AM | Updated: 03-29-09 05:12 AM
but the ones who are not in compliance with state guidelines will still be shut down
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Blue Dot
So then wouldn't dispensaries by default always be the lowest priority and going after the cartels always the top priority?
Oh, that's right, the feds are too scared of the cartels to go after them.
it is much easier to grow under state law than it is to distribute; especially if you have an exemption to the 6 plant limit, in cali of course. grow your own and they'll leave you alone is what i take away from the new guidelines
SKUNK420
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They want to hold us accountable for for being in "Strict" compliance with State Law...but the Law has no "Strict" guidelines as to how to go about this--
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It doesn't matter for people in San Diego when you have a D.A. that doesn't truly recognize the state's MMJ laws. Sorry to say she will probably still work hand in hand with the DEA to turn cases over to the feds that she feels are not in strict compliance with state laws.
I'll never trust a lesbian D.A. that takes advantage of court changing laws for one of her causes(gay marriage) but will not recognize the MMJ laws that were voted in over 13 years ago.
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Sorry to say this is another move by the man of hope president Obama to get your vote. False change is what this is.
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Blue Dot
I should call the news and tell them to send a camera down to Bonnie dumanis' office tomorrow to be there when she reads the memo.
^ Bonnie ^ lol
^ Bonnie ^ lol
SKUNK420
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it is much easier to grow under state law than it is to distribute; especially if you have an exemption to the 6 plant limit, in cali of course. grow your own and they'll leave you alone is what i take away from the new guidelines
Yes and even if your in strict compliance, I still see Bonnie arresting people. It'll go like this: yes were had the legal limit of 6 but we have a C.I. who said you sold to him or some other bullcrap. They will find a way to create a case that is their job and they get off on it.
it is much easier to grow under state law than it is to distribute; especially if you have an exemption to the 6 plant limit, in cali of course. grow your own and they'll leave you alone is what i take away from the new guidelines
That is if you are growing for your own Meds--
How about us that contribute more?? It is a lot different if you have a large grow--
Peace--
they still raided dispensaries and co-ops after obama said they would stop the first time. I don't really believe this will change anything.
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Blue Dot
those dispensaries weren't in compliance.
they raided a handful in LA out of the 600-1000 that operate there.
I don't think they just threw darts at a map to target those dispensaries.
There's gonna be more raids after this memo simply because of the fact that many of the dispensaries are not in compliance.
Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer 2 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines to be issued Monday by the Obama administration.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state law.
The guidelines to be issued by the department do, however, make it clear that agents will go after people whose marijuana distribution goes beyond what is permitted under state law or use medical marijuana as a cover for other crimes, the officials said.
The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.
Fourteen states allow some use of marijuana for medical purposes: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.
California is unique among those for the widespread presence of dispensaries — businesses that sell marijuana and even advertise their services. Colorado also has several dispensaries, and Rhode Island and New Mexico are in the process of licensing providers, according to the Marijuana Policy Project, a group that promotes the decriminalization of marijuana use.
Attorney General Eric Holder said in March that he wanted federal law enforcement officials to pursue those who violate both federal and state law, but it has not been clear how that goal would be put into practice.
A three-page memo spelling out the policy is expected to be sent Monday to federal prosecutors in the 14 states, and also to top officials at the FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration.
The memo, the officials said, emphasizes that prosecutors have wide discretion in choosing which cases to pursue, and says it is not a good use of federal manpower to prosecute those who are without a doubt in compliance with state law.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the legal guidance before it is issued.
"This is a major step forward," said Bruce Mirken, communications director for the Marijuana Policy Project. "This change in policy moves the federal government dramatically toward respecting scientific and practical reality."
At the same time, the officials said, the government will still prosecute those who use medical marijuana as a cover for other illegal activity. The memo particularly warns that some suspects may hide old-fashioned drug dealing or other crimes behind a medical marijuana business.
In particular, the memo urges prosecutors to pursue marijuana cases which involve violence, the illegal use of firearms, selling pot to minors, money laundering or involvement in other crimes.
And while the policy memo describes a change in priorities away from prosecuting medical marijuana cases, it does not rule out the possibility that the federal government could still prosecute someone whose activities are allowed under state law.
The memo, officials said, is designed to give a sense of prosecutorial priorities to U.S. attorneys in the states that allow medical marijuana. It notes that pot sales in the United States are the largest source of money for violent Mexican drug cartels, but adds that federal law enforcement agencies have limited resources.
Medical marijuana advocates have been anxious to see exactly how the administration would implement candidate Barack Obama's repeated promises to change the policy in situations in which state laws allow the use of medical marijuana.
Soon after Obama took office, DEA agents raided four dispensaries in Los Angeles, prompting confusion about the government's plans.
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On the Net:
Drug Enforcement Administration: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/
Marijuana Policy Project: http://www.mpp.org/
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap...BHNsawNodHRwd3d3bXBwb3I-/*http://www.mpp.org/
Source: Yahoo news
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap...BHNsawNodHRwd3d3bXBwb3I-/*http://www.mpp.org/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091019/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_medical_marijuana/print
Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
Feds to issue new medical marijuana policy
By DEVLIN BARRETT, Associated Press Writer Devlin Barrett, Associated Press Writer 2 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Federal drug agents won't pursue pot-smoking patients or their sanctioned suppliers in states that allow medical marijuana, under new legal guidelines to be issued Monday by the Obama administration.
Two Justice Department officials described the new policy to The Associated Press, saying prosecutors will be told it is not a good use of their time to arrest people who use or provide medical marijuana in strict compliance with state law.
The guidelines to be issued by the department do, however, make it clear that agents will go after people whose marijuana distribution goes beyond what is permitted under state law or use medical marijuana as a cover for other crimes, the officials said.
The new policy is a significant departure from the Bush administration, which insisted it would continue to enforce federal anti-pot laws regardless of state codes.
Fourteen states allow some use of marijuana for medical purposes: Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington.
California is unique among those for the widespread presence of dispensaries — businesses that sell marijuana and even advertise their services. Colorado also has several dispensaries, and Rhode Island and New Mexico are in the process of licensing providers, according to the Marijuana Policy Project, a group that promotes the decriminalization of marijuana use.
Attorney General Eric Holder said in March that he wanted federal law enforcement officials to pursue those who violate both federal and state law, but it has not been clear how that goal would be put into practice.
A three-page memo spelling out the policy is expected to be sent Monday to federal prosecutors in the 14 states, and also to top officials at the FBI and Drug Enforcement Administration.
The memo, the officials said, emphasizes that prosecutors have wide discretion in choosing which cases to pursue, and says it is not a good use of federal manpower to prosecute those who are without a doubt in compliance with state law.
The officials spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the legal guidance before it is issued.
"This is a major step forward," said Bruce Mirken, communications director for the Marijuana Policy Project. "This change in policy moves the federal government dramatically toward respecting scientific and practical reality."
At the same time, the officials said, the government will still prosecute those who use medical marijuana as a cover for other illegal activity. The memo particularly warns that some suspects may hide old-fashioned drug dealing or other crimes behind a medical marijuana business.
In particular, the memo urges prosecutors to pursue marijuana cases which involve violence, the illegal use of firearms, selling pot to minors, money laundering or involvement in other crimes.
And while the policy memo describes a change in priorities away from prosecuting medical marijuana cases, it does not rule out the possibility that the federal government could still prosecute someone whose activities are allowed under state law.
The memo, officials said, is designed to give a sense of prosecutorial priorities to U.S. attorneys in the states that allow medical marijuana. It notes that pot sales in the United States are the largest source of money for violent Mexican drug cartels, but adds that federal law enforcement agencies have limited resources.
Medical marijuana advocates have been anxious to see exactly how the administration would implement candidate Barack Obama's repeated promises to change the policy in situations in which state laws allow the use of medical marijuana.
Soon after Obama took office, DEA agents raided four dispensaries in Los Angeles, prompting confusion about the government's plans.
___
On the Net:
Drug Enforcement Administration: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/
Marijuana Policy Project: http://www.mpp.org/
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap...BHNsawNodHRwd3d3bXBwb3I-/*http://www.mpp.org/
Source: Yahoo news
http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap...BHNsawNodHRwd3d3bXBwb3I-/*http://www.mpp.org/
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091019/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_medical_marijuana/print
B
Blue Dot
At least if some dispensary does everything they can to be in compliance even if it's just one more thing then another dispensariy then this is a little more insurance to them. Theoretically it should drop them down the raid totem pole so what have dispensaries have to lose by trying to be in compliance?
Their ability to afford to operate--
makedadproud
Member
Fluff piece?
Edit: Honestly, info from unnamed officials? I'll believe this stuff when its real news. Obama laughed off legalization a few months back right? Why the sudden shift? I once heard someone say that the only thing that can get this economy back into shape would be another thing like the internet. If it wasnt for the internet our economy proly wouldve tanked a decade ago. Hemp can get htis country back into shape cause we have what most countries dream of, Lots of land to grow food and inthe future, hemp. Sry stoned ramblings
Edit: Honestly, info from unnamed officials? I'll believe this stuff when its real news. Obama laughed off legalization a few months back right? Why the sudden shift? I once heard someone say that the only thing that can get this economy back into shape would be another thing like the internet. If it wasnt for the internet our economy proly wouldve tanked a decade ago. Hemp can get htis country back into shape cause we have what most countries dream of, Lots of land to grow food and inthe future, hemp. Sry stoned ramblings
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