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Marshmello
Member
Sad but true.
K
KermitTheHermit
It all makes me wonder if the commercial dispensary model will hold up, or whether people who are too ill to grow their own will have to establish a relationship with a real caregiver who grows and supplies small quantities for little or no profit...
pugnacious
Active member
Yo..
This article, blue dot, and people that believe what this article says are directly against my loved ones. Yea, I have a close friend that owns a dispensary in LA. They want to see him and his staff shut down and in jail. Even though this dispesnary has gone out of there way to help to the terminally ill. Literally at the cost of "not so sick patients". But regardless, they have their opinion and they are entitled to it.
Theres no need to be personally attacking blue dot and flaming him in every thread because you disagree with him.
Just saying...
This article, blue dot, and people that believe what this article says are directly against my loved ones. Yea, I have a close friend that owns a dispensary in LA. They want to see him and his staff shut down and in jail. Even though this dispesnary has gone out of there way to help to the terminally ill. Literally at the cost of "not so sick patients". But regardless, they have their opinion and they are entitled to it.
Theres no need to be personally attacking blue dot and flaming him in every thread because you disagree with him.
Just saying...
As long as regulation doesn't mean growing government and including drug companies somehow. Prices need to be low even if restrictions increase.
S
Sir_Nugget
We gotta stop hiding behgind this medical pot bullshit and get to the point of it.. we want it because its fun, not because were sick. This is bullshit
pugnacious
Active member
no one is hiding behind anything. bud has medical benefits. unfortunately not all "sick" people are not on chemo.
Im not going to lie and bullshit. Majority of the "patients" are just stoners. Doesnt mean were hiding behind the sick to service them.
Im not going to lie and bullshit. Majority of the "patients" are just stoners. Doesnt mean were hiding behind the sick to service them.
The article in question for those here that don't click external links 
The article in question for those here that don't click external links
Medical pot dispensaries have done a terrible job
By Union-Tribune Columnist
October 14, 2009
Scott Chipman offered me a brownie, but it wasn't that kind of a brownie.
That's hardly shocking, because the Pacific Beach activist known for fighting booze at the beach has a new fight on his hands — shuttering medical marijuana dispensaries.
I'm not sure if Chipman, 57, understood the irony of the brownie when I met him at his home this week because it'd be hard to find a person who seems more, um, square than this guy. (Next to him, I'm George Clooney.)
In addition to pushing to get alcohol banned at the beach, he has also gone after mini-dorms and house parties and P.B.'s expanding bar scene.
Now that Chipman has this in his cross hairs, I'm nearly ready to sell my Cheech & Chong albums.
That's because I support medical marijuana. And many of the people who have been doling it out have done such a terrible job — pushing limits, flaunting laws, selling it to people who aren't really sick — that it's opened the door for crackdowns.
The issues with out-of-control dispensaries are statewide. Steve Cooley, the Los Angeles County district attorney, figures that oh . . . about “100 percent” . . . of the dispensaries operating in his county are doing so illegally.
Their mistakes, and the understandable anger by savvy critics such as Chipman, could end up limiting access for people who are gravely ill and really need it.
It's not as if they can go to RiteAid and say: “Four grams, please.”
Chipman has lived in P.B. for 35 years and wants it to be like Mayberry, circa 1959. He doesn't smoke. He doesn't drink either. A father of four, he runs a company that makes decorative windows and doors.
He got in the medical marijuana fray this summer, when nine storefront dispensaries suddenly opened in P.B. Chipman is worried that kids might witness drug transactions. He researched the issue and maintains that storefront dispensaries are illegal.
“Why do you need a storefront,” he said. “There's nothing in the law about allowing for storefronts. It's for one reason: profit.”
Chipman points out that there's nothing in Proposition 215, which passed in 1996 and allowed for the use of medical marijuana, about storefront dispensaries. That's the same story for Senate Bill 420, which expanded the law and allowed for collectives that grow and share marijuana.
But dispensaries became a popular way of providing the drug to patients because there were few other avenues. Sure, patients can grow it at home, but is that really feasible, particularly if they're in a lot of pain?
A caregiver can provide it, but what if the caregiver is unable to do so? The nonprofit (well, they're supposed to be nonprofit) dispensaries became a viable source.
But there's been little, if any, regulation of them. In San Diego, there are no specific guidelines.
When the Obama administration recently signaled it wasn't going to go busting state-approved dispensaries, it caused a flurry of them to open, including those nine in Chipman's community.
They're frauds, he said. And many of the people attracted to them aren't sick, he asserts. They're gaming the system.
Cops raided 14 dispensaries in the county in September — charging that they were selling pot for profit — but many still operate.
All this craziness led the San Diego City Council to recently create a Medical Marijuana Task Force, which is charged with coming up with recommendations to bring some level of control.
The first meeting was held last week and one of the first public speakers? You bet: Chipman.
He worries that the task force isn't looking at closing the dispensaries, just at regulating them.
Well, that certainly seems the way the task force is leaning.
“We have to look at regulations, such as where and how the dispensaries are going to operate,” said Alex Kreit, the task force chairman.
Even those who support medical marijuana and use it do worry about the proliferation of dispensaries. Jeff Trevathan, a medical marijuana patient who attended the meeting, said the way some dispensaries run remind him of drug dealers from high school.
“Like they're selling it from their locker.”
He wants more controls, so communities will be more accepting of the dispensaries and medical marijuana will continue to be accessible to those who need it.
Personally, I like that position. I know that many dispensaries aren't on the up and up and regulation is necessary. Without it, those who really need it will suffer.
But Chipman wants them gone. And here's the thing: This man is a potent force.
Union-Tribune
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Quoting another article:
The article in question for those here that don't click external links
Medical pot dispensaries have done a terrible job
By Union-Tribune Columnist
October 14, 2009
Scott Chipman offered me a brownie, but it wasn't that kind of a brownie.
That's hardly shocking, because the Pacific Beach activist known for fighting booze at the beach has a new fight on his hands — shuttering medical marijuana dispensaries.
I'm not sure if Chipman, 57, understood the irony of the brownie when I met him at his home this week because it'd be hard to find a person who seems more, um, square than this guy. (Next to him, I'm George Clooney.)
In addition to pushing to get alcohol banned at the beach, he has also gone after mini-dorms and house parties and P.B.'s expanding bar scene.
Now that Chipman has this in his cross hairs, I'm nearly ready to sell my Cheech & Chong albums.
That's because I support medical marijuana. And many of the people who have been doling it out have done such a terrible job — pushing limits, flaunting laws, selling it to people who aren't really sick — that it's opened the door for crackdowns.
The issues with out-of-control dispensaries are statewide. Steve Cooley, the Los Angeles County district attorney, figures that oh . . . about “100 percent” . . . of the dispensaries operating in his county are doing so illegally.
Their mistakes, and the understandable anger by savvy critics such as Chipman, could end up limiting access for people who are gravely ill and really need it.
It's not as if they can go to RiteAid and say: “Four grams, please.”
Chipman has lived in P.B. for 35 years and wants it to be like Mayberry, circa 1959. He doesn't smoke. He doesn't drink either. A father of four, he runs a company that makes decorative windows and doors.
He got in the medical marijuana fray this summer, when nine storefront dispensaries suddenly opened in P.B. Chipman is worried that kids might witness drug transactions. He researched the issue and maintains that storefront dispensaries are illegal.
“Why do you need a storefront,” he said. “There's nothing in the law about allowing for storefronts. It's for one reason: profit.”
Chipman points out that there's nothing in Proposition 215, which passed in 1996 and allowed for the use of medical marijuana, about storefront dispensaries. That's the same story for Senate Bill 420, which expanded the law and allowed for collectives that grow and share marijuana.
But dispensaries became a popular way of providing the drug to patients because there were few other avenues. Sure, patients can grow it at home, but is that really feasible, particularly if they're in a lot of pain?
A caregiver can provide it, but what if the caregiver is unable to do so? The nonprofit (well, they're supposed to be nonprofit) dispensaries became a viable source.
But there's been little, if any, regulation of them. In San Diego, there are no specific guidelines.
When the Obama administration recently signaled it wasn't going to go busting state-approved dispensaries, it caused a flurry of them to open, including those nine in Chipman's community.
They're frauds, he said. And many of the people attracted to them aren't sick, he asserts. They're gaming the system.
Cops raided 14 dispensaries in the county in September — charging that they were selling pot for profit — but many still operate.
All this craziness led the San Diego City Council to recently create a Medical Marijuana Task Force, which is charged with coming up with recommendations to bring some level of control.
The first meeting was held last week and one of the first public speakers? You bet: Chipman.
He worries that the task force isn't looking at closing the dispensaries, just at regulating them.
Well, that certainly seems the way the task force is leaning.
“We have to look at regulations, such as where and how the dispensaries are going to operate,” said Alex Kreit, the task force chairman.
Even those who support medical marijuana and use it do worry about the proliferation of dispensaries. Jeff Trevathan, a medical marijuana patient who attended the meeting, said the way some dispensaries run remind him of drug dealers from high school.
“Like they're selling it from their locker.”
He wants more controls, so communities will be more accepting of the dispensaries and medical marijuana will continue to be accessible to those who need it.
Personally, I like that position. I know that many dispensaries aren't on the up and up and regulation is necessary. Without it, those who really need it will suffer.
But Chipman wants them gone. And here's the thing: This man is a potent force.
Union-Tribune
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Quoting another article:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=141050
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GilligansIsle
Member
SN:
I am an old man, I smoked my first marijuana on Saturday April 29 1972. Yes it is fun.
I smoked off and on through my entire adult life. I have a bit of an opinion about legalization, I am for it and look forward to seeing made so at least at a state level.
I am a Medical Cannabis consumer and have been one since I was bumped off of my GoldWing and was told that Vicoden and I would be sharing the rest of my life. Now that is Bullshit.
I have not been truly altered in 4 or more years, I vape and eat every day and the only fun I get now is pain management. It is sad but it is what it is.
I only point out this so that you might get a slightly different perspective. I am all for legalization, but not at the cost of Medical Cannabis, it is not bullshit for me and I know for others out there too.
I agree that there are others that might take advantage of the medical side for fun only, hell if it was available in 1972 I would have taken advantage of it, being young and dumb I would not have considered the potential impact on those that were truly in need. I am no wiser today but far more experienced.
I am not calling you out on your opinion, simply expressing mine.
SeniorBuzz
Member
Medical Marijuana Dispensaries in CA are the face of legalized marijuana visible to the rest of our country. Best do everything possible to keep that face clean, as any dirt will be put under a microscope, exposed, and used to argue against mmj dispensaries in other states, as well as against the outright legalization of marijuana.
Brown knew WTF he was doing when he put that shit about "Not for Profit" in his Guidelines....it will not and cannot work!! How the fuck is he going to take the biggest cash crop in the friggin Country...and say you can dispense it...but you can't make any $$
It was an obvious sabotage...
Can someone please tell me one other thing...that is legal to have, but illegal to make $$ on??
It was an obvious sabotage...
Can someone please tell me one other thing...that is legal to have, but illegal to make $$ on??
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Zeinth
well...
well...
ok..ok..ya..its a cash cow..alright.
sure a gold rush..yup. not gonna lie.
now lets tell the truth.
appetite is enhanced...true??
vomiting syndrome..is...affected?? true for some?
inoccular eye pressure affected true?? well?
nuropathy ...for me affectedin a good way... yes!!
does cannabis have medicinal benfits...yes!!
is billions of dollars in cash being wasted...yes..
are collectives doing a bad job...who really knows??
weres the guidlines..??
give us guidlines...u know..a inspector that checks scales..labs that checks for mold..taxes are being paid..yes they are..dont lie...taxes ARE BEING PAID!!
well...
ok..ok..ya..its a cash cow..alright.
sure a gold rush..yup. not gonna lie.
now lets tell the truth.
appetite is enhanced...true??
vomiting syndrome..is...affected?? true for some?
inoccular eye pressure affected true?? well?
nuropathy ...for me affectedin a good way... yes!!
does cannabis have medicinal benfits...yes!!
is billions of dollars in cash being wasted...yes..
are collectives doing a bad job...who really knows??
weres the guidlines..??
give us guidlines...u know..a inspector that checks scales..labs that checks for mold..taxes are being paid..yes they are..dont lie...taxes ARE BEING PAID!!
God damn thats harsh. he is just posting an article. there wasnt even an opinion in that. besides Blue Dot is a nice guy. at least he always has been to me. Even if we dont share the same opinion all the time we show eachother mutual respect. Try doing the same, then you might have a constructive conversation.
your rude comment was uncalled for.
(i share the same opinion of you, generally a nice guy)
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nephilthim
Member
san franicsoc and bezerkley taint s.d. or l.a. that this windbag is given press validates his position,which upsets me because fundamentally he and leo officials show their bias by making statements that only a dr. should make
self-rightous ramblings of a douchebag someone should highlight his window business for a boycott!
B
Blue Dot
Well, they did take my stapler. 
nephilthim
Member
thats the one!my hero!now if you dont leave blue dot alone hes gonna start lplaying with matches!
Well, they did take my stapler.
I heard he stuck in Mao Zedong's pooper too. Free weed for everybody!!! It's on Blue Dot's dime.
Don't take it too personally. Just some mentalist fencing
