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Why Is LA's District Attorney Helping Mexican Drug Cartels?

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URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n932/a11.html

Source: Los Angeles Daily News (CA)

WHY IS L.A.'S DISTRICT ATTORNEY HELPING MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS?

LAST Thursday, Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley announced a sweeping new plan to boost the profits of Mexican drug cartels, a plan almost certain to increase the slaughter these vicious gangs are perpetrating on both sides of the U.S. - Mexico border.

Of course, Cooley didn't call it that. He claimed, on dubious legal grounds, that all medical marijuana dispensaries in the county are illegal and announced plans to crack down on them. While no one denies that L.A.'s attempts - or, more accurately, nonattempts - to regulate these operations have been a mess, Cooley's crackdown is guaranteed to make a bad situation worse.

While state law is not as precise as it might be in setting legal parameters for dispensing medical marijuana, guidelines issued last year by state Attorney General Jerry Brown make clear that dispensing collectives are legal and can include storefront operations.

"It is the opinion of this Office that a properly organized and operated collective or cooperative that dispenses medical marijuana through a storefront may be lawful under California law," the guidelines state, so long as other requirements are met.

It may well be that some are operating outside these guidelines, but until and unless Cooley closely inspects their operations, he is simply making things up. That's not how law enforcement should operate.

But even if Cooley were right on legal grounds, as policy his stand borders on the insane. California law unmistakably gives patients the right to use and possess marijuana for medical purposes when recommended by their physician. And a flood of medical research over the last several years - much of it conducted by the University of California - has confirmed that marijuana can indeed provide safe, effective relief for a number of conditions, including certain hard-to-treat types of excruciating nerve pain.

So the question facing local leaders is not whether patients can have medical marijuana, but how they will obtain it. Will it be from licensed businesses operating under appropriate rules and regulations, or from drug dealers on the streets? Does Cooley really believe it's better for either patients or communities to have the state's medical marijuana patients - who number more than 200,000 by most estimates - getting their medicine from street dealers?

Sending patients to the streets for their medicine is clearly dangerous, subjecting sick people to risky transactions in order to purchase medicine of unknown quality, purity and origin. But it's the question of origin that should alarm all of us.

We know that a significant amount of street marijuana can be traced to the murderous Mexican cartels - vicious gangs who make around two-thirds of their profits from the illicit marijuana trade, according to U.S. and Mexican officials. We know that these gangs are operating in at least 230 U.S. cities, including Los Angeles, Hacienda Heights and Garden Grove.

A mass shutdown of medical marijuana dispensaries will simply hand these thugs a massive new pool of customers and millions of dollars in extra profits. There is a better way.

The experience of other cities, including Oakland and San Francisco, has shown that well-crafted regulations can allow medical marijuana patients to access their medicine safely, from well-run organizations that follow the law and respect their neighborhoods.

In San Francisco, medical marijuana dispensaries have simply ceased being controversial, as explained last year by C.W. Nevius, arguably the San Francisco Chronicle's most conservative local columnist:

"Quietly, with little fanfare, San Francisco is on the way to becoming a model for medical marijuana clubs done the right way. Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs are being forced out and community-based, patient-friendly ones are becoming the norm. Neighbors have shut down dispensaries in school zones, and patient services have been increased."

It's long past time for California's legislature to set clear, statewide standards and licensing rules for medical marijuana providers. But until then, local officials like Cooley need to use common sense and not pursue policies that will simply enrich murderous thugs.
 
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Blue Dot

We know that a significant amount of street marijuana can be traced to the murderous Mexican cartels

But no one buys Mexi for their illness.

How do I know this, well when's the last time you saw mexi in a dispensary and when is the last time you saw it in a dispensary and it outsell all the other cali grown meds?

The whole premise of this article is ridiculous.
 
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Blue Dot

"Quietly, with little fanfare, San Francisco is on the way to becoming a model for medical marijuana clubs done the right way. Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs are being forced out and community-based, patient-friendly ones are becoming the norm. Neighbors have shut down dispensaries in school zones, and patient services have been increased."

Again, this article makes no sense.

If Cooley thinks 100% of LA dispensaries are "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then wouldn't shutting them down just open up oppurtunities for "community-based, patient-friendly ones" just like SF did?

I mean it's not like when SF shut down the "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then cartels took over. As a matter of fact it was the opposite.

Maybe if there weren't so many illegal mexicans living in LA with ties to these cartels then this would be a non issue. :chin: :yeahthats

You wanna get rid of cartels how about enforcing IMMIGRATION laws and stop worrying about dispensaries.
 
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ocean99

Leave it to Blue Dot to shoot down a witty and effective article for the cause. I swear you must be the voice inside the Drug Czar's head.
 
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Blue Dot

You missed my point completely.

If cooley really wants to stop cartels he should spend his energy on enforcing immigration laws and then he wouldn't need to worry about dispensaries.
 
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Blue Dot

i think you missed the article's point completely

Really, which part?

If Cooley thinks 100% of LA dispensaries are "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then wouldn't shutting them down just open up oppurtunities for "community-based, patient-friendly ones" just like SF did?

I mean it's not like when SF shut down the "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then cartels took over. As a matter of fact it was the opposite.
 
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ocean99

If cooley really wants to stop cartels he should spend his energy on enforcing immigration laws and then he wouldn't need to worry about dispensaries.

This is your delusion. Borders have never stopped people from going wherever fuck they want. The problem with border control is not that they are not strict enough, it is that borders are imaginary. The same problem exists in drug legislation; they attempt to legislate the hungers of man. They don't fucking work.

And dude, stop fucking quoting yourself, that has got to be the most worst fucking thing you could do, ever.
 
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Blue Dot

And dude, stop fucking quoting yourself, that has got to be the most worst fucking thing you could do, ever.

I did that so that you would respond directly to that but you still went back to my immigration debate which IMO is a valid debate but just part of the larger picture going on here.

So please, if you think I missed the point to the article then explain to me why my quote doesn't explain away your misconception?
 

bterzz

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Blue Dot, this point of this article was ...

Last paragraph.

You know, the conclusion?

"It's long past time for California's legislature to set clear, statewide standards and licensing rules for medical marijuana providers. But until then, local officials like Cooley need to use common sense and not pursue policies that will simply enrich murderous thugs."
 

nepalnt21

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Cooley's crackdown is guaranteed to make a bad situation worse.

i dont think the author really thinks the problem lies with illegal immigrants, or the sketchy situation of la's dispensaries... i think what he is saying is they are much better for everyone than street dealers, and what cooley's plan is going to do is force more people that are unable to grow for themselves to seek street dealers for their pot. he uses hyperbole to grab readers' attention.

and i really dont think cooley cares about illegal immigrants, more like his reputation.
 

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Dont forget the tortillas

Dont forget the tortillas

But no one buys Mexi for their illness.

How do I know this, well when's the last time you saw mexi in a dispensary and when is the last time you saw it in a dispensary and it outsell all the other cali grown meds?

The whole premise of this article is ridiculous.

Lets not forget the tortillas that law enforcement always seem to find at every large gorilla grow in norcal. Its a drug war .. dont forget!! Where do you think the mexican mafia is selling the 100,000 plant plantations that law enforcement says they are only busting a small percentage of ?
 
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ocean99

Lets not forget the tortillas that law enforcement always seem to find at every large gorilla grow in norcal. Its a drug war .. dont forget!! Where do you think the mexican mafia is selling the 100,000 plant plantations that law enforcement says they are only busting a small percentage of ?

Are you insinuating that Mexican Cartels sell to dispensaries? Or that Law Enforcement is attributing large medical grows to *shudder* Mexican Cartels? Either way, good post.
 
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Blue Dot

Where do you think the mexican mafia is selling the 100,000 plant plantations that law enforcement says they are only busting a small percentage of ?

Back east. Why settle for a low ball $3000/lb in LA when it's only a little more risk to interstate it back to NYC and make $6000/lb.

For double your money mules are expendable, a dime a dozen and are willing to do it all day long. What have they got to lose, they just be deported and come back within a week.

They grow in Cali because of the sunshine but sell back east because of the green.
 
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Blue Dot

Blue Dot, this point of this article was ...

Last paragraph.

You know, the conclusion?

"It's long past time for California's legislature to set clear, statewide standards and licensing rules for medical marijuana providers. But until then, local officials like Cooley need to use common sense and not pursue policies that will simply enrich murderous thugs."

If Cooley thinks 100% of LA dispensaries are "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then wouldn't shutting them down just open up oppurtunities for "community-based, patient-friendly ones" just like SF did?

I mean it's not like when SF shut down the "Exploitative, profit-hungry drug clubs" then cartels took over. As a matter of fact it was the opposite.

I'm gonna keep quoting myself until someone can tell me that there is no in between alternative like in SF.

Why does everyone think it's either tons of dispensaries or mexicans cartels?

There IS an in between alternative like in SF.
 

Mia

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There IS an in between alternative like in SF
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Really?
I am from the bay area.
I have been to plenty of clubs in the city.
Would you care to explain how SF is so different?
I certainly haven't seen it in my experience(which I bet is much more than you have had in this neck of the woods).
BTW what is your personal political/economic philosophy Blue Dot? You denigrate capitalism in your sig. which may explain your opinions on some of these matters. Are you a socialist?
 

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Umm... yeah... dunno what clubs in the bay you're going to but the ones i've been to are all about the $$... maybe the mexican mafia has cooley in their pocket; sorta like how the republicans that go after gays are the ones caught with the gay hookers... just saying :)
 
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