New 8KW stealth Coco chip grow!

[Lazyman]

Ah man sucks about that Lazyman. At least its only a little bit of your over all work.

Props!

Thanks buddy, yeah I was looking at the poor burnt corpses on the ground after I pulled em out, thinking to myself "man, I am one fortunate fucker. Some guys can only grow 5 or ten plants at a time and they would have lost everything from one hood crash!" I will go count my blessings right this second!

Take it easy bro

 

[Raphael]

Digi ballasts burn out eye hortis super quick man! You're better off with GE cheap ones. Something about the starting voltage and stuff.

Your setup rocks man! I love your design into low maintenance. Very very efficient@ Good luck and vibes, stop spending money on the expensive bulbs, or use mag ballasts!

cheers

 

[707Corridor]

Thanks buddy, yeah I was looking at the poor burnt corpses on the ground after I pulled em out, thinking to myself "man, I am one fortunate fucker. Some guys can only grow 5 or ten plants at a time and they would have lost everything from one hood crash!" I will go count my blessings right this second!

Take it easy bro

I hear on that one. My last op that I just chopped was 5 plants. Imagine that, if that would have happened to me. I would have lost a WHOLE lot!

Sometimes a little bit o luck is a good thing!

I'm sure the cannabis gods will find a way for you to regain your lost plants.

 

[Lazyman]

Digi ballasts burn out eye hortis super quick man! You're better off with GE cheap ones. Something about the starting voltage and stuff.

Your setup rocks man! I love your design into low maintenance. Very very efficient@ Good luck and vibes, stop spending money on the expensive bulbs, or use mag ballasts!

cheers

Thanks man, I'm humbled you think so! Yeah you're probably right, did you have good luck with the GE's and digis? I have heard they are pretty afforable and only a few thousand lumens less than the Eyes.

I like a lot of things about mag ballasts, but I like the 10% more lumens out of the digis more! Electrical efficiency is important at almost every stage, can't wait until we get good cheap LED's.

Yeah low maintenance is important to me, because if I ever want to do bigger (and who doesn't) I'd rather do it on something I can build, scale up, and work the bugs out so I know things like watering schedules and nutes before I get there. If I had more than 1 spot I want something I can visit 3X per week instead of 5 hours a day, so I can have a handful of them, all the same, all automated and with remote monitoring systems, check each one from a separate burn phone. Get cheaper nutes and coco in bulk!

 

[Lazyman]

I hear on that one. My last op that I just chopped was 5 plants. Imagine that, if that would have happened to me. I would have lost a WHOLE lot!

Sometimes a little bit o luck is a good thing!

I'm sure the cannabis gods will find a way for you to regain your lost plants.

Thanks man, yeah I have been there, the wheels move faster the longer you play though. It's an interesting ride to be sure!

I try to be a positive person and spread good will and good info, and though this doesn't often have direct rewards, the cannabis gods have seen fit to see me healthy, away from trouble and a fridge full of food. Anything beyond that is just gravy, but I must admit, I loooove gravy!

Alright, just sprayed the whole floor with physan and garlic oil, and set off two pyrethrin foggers. I'm gonna try watering 4X a week instead of daily, roots are not as healthy as I'd like. Gonna add some peroxide and physan to my new tanks of nutes, just gotta do a quick flush with plain water first.

Shit I haven't taken pics in like 2 weeks, sorry guys. I'll get some in here this weekend.

 

[dutchcrunch]

2.5lbs from 8 LIGHTS!! that barely paid for the PG&E bill. damn dude, I get 7 lbs consistently from 5 lights. you can definitely get some huge results w/ coco. only grow 1 strain & you don't have 2 veg more than 2-3 days if you do a SOG setup. Lots of plants!

 

[Lazyman]

2.5lbs from 8 LIGHTS!! that barely paid for the PG&E bill. damn dude, I get 7 lbs consistently from 5 lights. you can definitely get some huge results w/ coco. only grow 1 strain & you don't have 2 veg more than 2-3 days if you do a SOG setup. Lots of plants!

Man you ain't kiddin. Worst harvest I've had in ages, I usually get 1.5 per light or so, but like I said, dial in run, lots of problems, not enough plants etc...

I think I like about 7 days of veg just for building the roots, and getting enough plant matter to get over an ounce each plant. If I can do 2 ounces per plant off of a bunch of 2' plants I'd be a happy lazyman!

I know next run will be much better, gonna use coco-spec nutes, better coco, fewer strains (shooting for half and half of Sweet Tooth and Lemon Thai but you know how that goes) and with any luck, an insulated building and 4 additional lights.

Dunno, I guess I should just be happy with what I've got and live with it, at least for now or another year. Patience is a virtue but I'm not particularly virtuous, lol. Just hate seeing a spot with so much potential be limited by something as stupid as inspections. Good god, if I didn't have those, I'd have 2 flowering rooms and a veg room within a month, no question.

Thanks for all the support guys, I've been realy stressed out lately from a bunch of other things, and your kind words really do keep me going. I wish I could smoke every last one of you out!

 

[dutchcrunch]

you've got a killer attitude lazyman & that is half the battle! once you dial in your coco setup you won't look back. the most important thing is PH & excellent air flow/ventilation. when i switched from soil to coco I literally doubled my yield.

 

[Lazyman]

Thanks mate, I wish I had the same experience, but when I moved to this spot I used 7KW over soil pots and got 9.5#, then my next run was 8KW with coco and 2.5#! LOL

My fault like I said, but man was it a huge bummer. Take it easy bro, peace

 

[MarquisBlack]

Don't let it get you down, bro. (Not that you seem to be!)

I just had to make the tough decision to chop a 3 light harvest a month early because of some "mystery" problem I had with coco this round. What was supposed to be $16,000, 15 of which would have been profit, ended up costing me a grand w/ electricity, nutes, and NO RETURN.

Bouncing back, though. Ditching coco in favor of NFT. Hope your luck's better than mine!

 

[Raphael]

Thanks man, I'm humbled you think so! Yeah you're probably right, did you have good luck with the GE's and digis? I have heard they are pretty afforable and only a few thousand lumens less than the Eyes.

I like a lot of things about mag ballasts, but I like the 10% more lumens out of the digis more! Electrical efficiency is important at almost every stage, can't wait until we get good cheap LED's.

Yeah low maintenance is important to me, because if I ever want to do bigger (and who doesn't) I'd rather do it on something I can build, scale up, and work the bugs out so I know things like watering schedules and nutes before I get there. If I had more than 1 spot I want something I can visit 3X per week instead of 5 hours a day, so I can have a handful of them, all the same, all automated and with remote monitoring systems, check each one from a separate burn phone. Get cheaper nutes and coco in bulk!

I like how you think! I love helping patients set up their medical grows. Show and explain the basics to them, set up their system and then visit every week or so and then collect their extra medicine and donate it to patients in need.

Good vibes!

Cheers

 

[Lazyman]

Don't let it get you down, bro. (Not that you seem to be!)

I just had to make the tough decision to chop a 3 light harvest a month early because of some "mystery" problem I had with coco this round. What was supposed to be $16,000, 15 of which would have been profit, ended up costing me a grand w/ electricity, nutes, and NO RETURN.

Bouncing back, though. Ditching coco in favor of NFT. Hope your luck's better than mine!

Wow man, sorry, that sucks! Sounds like we each had a page in the same chapter.

NFT over coco? Ouch, I would think that would be even harder, but I personally haven't run NFT so i could be off.

Yeah I think most of my coco problems could have been remedied by:

Pretreating my coco with ferts and calmag (or using Canna Bio Terra+)

That's it. Without enough food in the medium (due to coco suckin it up) I overwatered, slowing root growth and overall vigor.

Good luck on the NFT man, let me know when you post it as I'd like to see how it goes.

 

[buddin_904]

Pretreating my coco with ferts and calmag (or using Canna Bio Terra+)

this is sooooo important, in my case and perhaps others. some people transplant into coco and have their plants die and are still scratching their heads as to why. i figured it out real quick, well, due to reading on here to pretreat your coco! some people bitch and nit pick about various coco brands ohhh this ones better than this....ohh this one has less salt than this one. blah blah.

you tell me how i use sunleaves compressed bricks, non flushed! and have instant success!!!!!????

i unwrap a brick, hydrate it with TAP water, add 1 tsp of floranova bloom, 1 tsp of cal mag, mix well. throw my clone or plant in, and call it a day. i have vigorous growth the next day.

just a good point, that i had to point out myself

 

[christen23]

just have a longer veg time and let the plants get bigger, You have a great setup, you will be fine, Also rockwoll works great in Ebb and Flow, You can even put a coco mat on the bottem of the trays and the roots grow into the coco. pretty neat! peace
~POE~

 

[Lazyman]

just have a longer veg time and let the plants get bigger, You have a great setup, you will be fine, Also rockwoll works great in Ebb and Flow, You can even put a coco mat on the bottem of the trays and the roots grow into the coco. pretty neat! peace
~POE~

Man I wish I could, I have to squeeze the following into a 6-month timespan twice a year:

Set up new or improved grow
Get 160 clones transplanted and vegging
FLower them for 8-9 weeks
Cut/trim/dry pick up new clones
Transplant 160 more clones and veg
FLower for 8-9 weeks
Cut/trim/dry
Order new clones
Break down entire room and hide it.

No time for more than about ten days veg per grow unfortunately.

I've thought about rockwool, might try it in 1 tray sometime for giggles. You only have to flood em like a half inch and they wick up the rest right?
Only bad thing about the coco mats is you would be unable to rotate/move/transfer plants, and I do that ALL the time.

 

[Lazyman]

Well I found another screwup I made, I gotta be more careful. One of my timers was outta wack, flooding twice a day and for way too long, so some of my trays were overflowing (pumps too big, throttled down with shutoff valves now) and the medium was soaked.

I still think I didn't have enough big healthy plants this time, so I ended up keeping a lot of runts I would have otherwise tossed. Bugs seem to be on their way out, but I've only got 2 weeks left til chop so the pattern is set now, just keeping em healthy and alive is all I can do now. I moved a lot of runts out from directly under the lights and put bigger plants there, figured they have the chance to make more bud, and the runts don't. Lighting up the moneymakers, as it were. Usually I kept tallest plants on the edge so they don't cast shadows but I think the runts are as big as they're gonna get.

Got my order placed for my next batch though, should be half sweet tooth and half lemon thai (indica pheno) but I bet I'll end up having to pick up 20-30 of some other things to fill it in.

Damn I wish I had a veg/mom room! Hate buying that many clones, sooo expensive.

 

[707Corridor]

I hear yah on the Veg/Mom room. Just picked up some clones and dropped 200 bucks on them. I know not that much, but it does seem to hurt and get old after you've done like 8 times haha.

Soon enough I'll have my mother room.

Whats the lineage of the sweet tooth?

 

[PoopyTeaBags]

hey lazy what you useing for a/c nature?

 

[humboldtsbest]

Man, just read through the whole thread bud. That first run was a little disapointing yeah, but at least you did not have a total failure. Have a 8KW setup also. Smaller space. And only 80 plants. Vegging for another week personally. Last run was with 6 KW and we pulled barely 4 lbs. disapointed also man. Problem after problem. Also using coco. I need to put up another journal on here also.

 

[Lazyman]

I hear yah on the Veg/Mom room. Just picked up some clones and dropped 200 bucks on them. I know not that much, but it does seem to hurt and get old after you've done like 8 times haha.

Soon enough I'll have my mother room.

Whats the lineage of the sweet tooth?

Hey bro, yeah it's a pain, I just negotiated to get em for $5 each though from now on, so I should be ok for the future.

Sweet tooth genetics:

Breeder's Description - 'Sweet Tooth #3'

Sweet Tooth #3 (fourth generation, 3rd Backcross to Sweet Pink Grapefruit mother). This Sweet Tooth is the result of one backcross line wherein the goal in searching the father was an emphasis on the taxonomy and aroma of the original SPG mother. The Grapefruit is a true favourite among growers and consumers. It is possibly the most cultivated strain among commercial producers in Vancouver. The preceding BX2 seed that the father was selected from produced quite homogenous grapefruit-like plants, this generation should be suitable for crossing. The plant is high yielding for a Sweet Tooth yet retains the exceptional candied sweetness this strain is famous for. A beautiful plant with a beautiful taste and a positive vibration. A smiling high is guaranteed from these heady flowers. The plants are quite hardy and easy to grow, and prefer a drier finishing time, as the buds become fat enough for mold to be of concern. These chunky monkeys often require staking but in a windy location they should be stout enough to hold their own (significant) weight. Does well as a small bush but will become a large bush given adequate growth parameters. Whether this is an exceptional commercial strain or head stash is for you to decide. I truly hope you enjoy these plants as much as I do. Indoors Flowering: 8wks Outdoors: mid.Oct.& Indoors Yield: Way Above Average (easily 500gms per metre) Outdoors: Above Average