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Kopite- You are correct sir. Always a pleasure :joint:

VG- yes, but those changes in expression aren't coded on the DNA and they eventually "wash out." The amount of time it takes is dependent on the species and the trait. I think they took the fly study past generation 10 and it still had red eyes. Other effects could disappear sooner. Also, some of the genetic code can be 'suppressed' just like it can be 'activated'.

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it sounds to me like Epigentics had a small hand in the development of the Y chromozone..
 

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What Rick does is pseudoscience :wallbash: eigenetics is the real deal.


what i do is think with an open mind,,,,an i dont take everthing i read for granted,,,

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Epigenetic change is usually defined as that which does not involve changing DNA sequences, or “the structural adaptation of chromosomal regions so as to register signal or perpetuate altered activity states” [14], but such definition are rapidly becoming obsolete.

In reality, epigenetic modifications encompass a great variety of mechanisms acting not just at transcription but at post-transcription and translation of genetic messages, and indeed, even rewrites genomic DNA itself [15, 16] (see Epigenetic Inheritance through Sperm Cells, and Rewriting the Genetic Text in Brain Development and Evolution, SiS 41). Epigenetic mechanisms include various enzyme-catalyzed chemical modifications of genomic DNA (methylation of cytosine residues in CpG dinucleotides) and histone chromatin proteins (methylation, acetylation, phosphorylation, ubiquitinylation, etc.), which recruits other proteins such as transcription factors and repressors, that together, determine the activity state of specific genes or sets of genes [17, 18]. Also included are changes to the genetic messages transcribed [19, 20]. RNA editing systematically alters base sequences, such as changing adenosine (A) to inosine (I), which is read as guanosine (G), resulting in an entirely new message. Alternative splicing creates different proteins; and RNA interference determines which messages are cleaved, or blocked from translation. Transcription factors promoting the expression of certain genes may be involved at the same time in repressing neighbouring genes [19]. Finally, epigenetic mechanisms include reverse transcription of altered transcripts [15, 16], which has the effect of rewriting the genetic messages encoded in genomic DNA, and hence distinctly blurring the boundaries between epigenetic and genetic.

Epigenetic modifications occur in cell differentiation, so that different genes are expressed, different messages are altered, say in brain cells as opposed to skin cells, and they are inherited by the daughter cells in cell division. Most epigenetic changes are ‘erased’ in the germ cells that produce the next generation (DNA methylation is studied in greatest detail in this respect), but some modifications survive, and are passed on to the next generation. We shall be dealing with different examples in other articles in this series.
 

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its a fine-line between pseudoscience and braking news


ISIS said:
Epigenetic Inheritance

“What Genes Remember”


The experience of one generation can modify genes passed on to the next via a variety of mechanisms that blur the distinction between epigenetic and genetic

The Avon Study
The UK Avon Longitudinal Study of Parents and Children (ALSPAC) is a long-term health research project involving more than 14 000 mothers enrolled during pregnancy in 1991 and 1992. Analysing data from the study, researchers showed that the sons of fathers who smoked before puberty had a significantly greater body mass index (measure of obesity) at 9 years of age: 18.15 compared with 17.23 in sons of fathers that never smoked [1]. But there was no effect on the body mass index of the daughters.

Faced with this intriguing finding, the research team turned to old records of people born in1890, 1905, and 1920 from Overkalix, an isolated community in Northern Sweden, where previously, they had reported an association of ancestral food supply with longevity and death from cardiovascular disease and diabetes.

Re-analyzing the records showed that the paternal grandfathers’ food supply during mid childhood was indeed linked to the risk of death in grandsons, but not in grand-daughters. Poor availability of food was associated with reduced risk of death in grandsons by 35 percent while good availability of food was associated with increased risk of death by 67 percent compared with controls.

In contrast, the nutritional status of the paternal grandmother had no influence on the grandsons, but affected the granddaughter in a similar way. Good food availability increased the risk of death for grand-daughters by 113 percent, while poor food availability decreased the risk of death by 49 percent.

A previous study on the same ALSPAC database had found an association between high birth weight in grand children and type 2 diabetes in maternal grandparents; but not in paternal grandparent [10].


Epigenetic inheritance
The results of the ALSPAC studies imply that experience during a crucial period of life could influence more than one generation in a sex-specific way.

Although the mechanisms involved in humans are not yet known, this kind of trans-generational effects is being taken more seriously because similar effects - now described as ‘epigenetic inheritance’ - have been documented in a substantial number of animal studies. For example, how an adult rat responds to stress was found to depend on whether its mother cared for it adequately as a pup, which marks certain genes for the rest of its life [11] (Caring Mothers Reduce Response to Stress for Life, SiS 24), and we shall update that fascinating story [12] (Caring Mothers Strike Fatal Flow against Genetic Determinism, SiS 41). Another series of studies show that a single exposure of rats during embryogenesis to the fungicide vincozolin is sufficient to cause a range of serious diseases and abnormalities in the adults that are transmitted to three further generations [13] (see Epigenetic Toxicology, SiS 41).
 

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its almost fact:)

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Epigenetic Toxicology

Environmental toxins modify our genes and affect our children and grandchildren; enormous implications for risk assessment of synthetic chemical and other xenobiotics


A common chemical bisphenol A (BPA) that leaches out from baby bottles and other containers of food and drink, when given to pregnant mice, caused gross chromosomal defects in the egg cells of her female foetuses. These female foetuses grew into adults and produced large proportions of defective embryos [1]. It was a case of the grandmother effect spanning three generations.

BPA is a weak oestrogen mimic, and one of the most abundant synthetic chemicals manufactured by the chemical industry; some 2 to 3 million tonnes made every year .It is the monomer base of polycarbonate plastic food and drinks containers, including baby bottles, the resin lining of tins and dental sealants; it is also found in ‘carbonless’ paper used for receipts as well as a wide range of other common household products. BPA has been linked to a range of reproductive defects in lab rodents, including reduced sperm production, and increased susceptibility to prostate cancer in the male, and abnormalities in mammary gland, brain development and the oestrous cycle in the female. Foetal exposure to BPA in rats was shown to induce the development of precancerous and cancerous lesions in the mammary gland [2]. In humans, an association between BPA levels and recurrent miscarriages has been suggested [3], and recently, a significant relationship was found between urine concentrations of BPA and cardiovascular disease, type 2 diabetes, obesity, and liver enzyme abnormalities in a representative sample of the adult US population [4].

The US research group led by Patricia Hunt at Washington State University, Pullman, made headlines around the world when they published the results in 2007 [1]. They also found that knocking out the oestrogen receptor ERb in transgenic mice reproduced precisely those defects caused by BPA, suggesting that BPA interfered with the binding of oestrogen to its receptor ERb. And indeed, no further abnormalities could be induced by BPA in the ERb knock-out mice.

These results provide evidence for a multigenerational effect of BPA exposure mediated by the dysregulation of ERb, so the daughters of exposed pregnant females have an increased risk of producing offspring with abnormal chromosomes. The BPA exposure also adversely influences the reproductive lifespan of the females, as these abnormalities typically result in the loss of a significant proportion of oocytes in developing female foetuses prior to sexual maturation.

The findings of Hunt’s team [1] that really attracted the attention of the scientific community were the epigenetic effects (resulting from interference of oestrogen binding to its receptor) transmitted across generations, which have become increasingly important in toxicology.

During foetal development, the germ cells in both sexes undergo massive proliferation by ordinary cell division. Thereafter, germ cells in the testis of the male foetus stop dividing and remain in developmental arrest until after birth, while those in the ovary of the female foetus start meiosis (the special cell division that leads to the formation of egg cells with half the chromosome number). By the time of birth, the oocytes (as they are now called) have entered a protracted period of meiotic arrest where they remain until just prior to ovulation after an extensive period of growth in the adult ovary.

Since the publication of these findings, the Canadian federal government has formally declared BPA a hazardous substance, and announced they would seek to restrict imports, sales and advertising of polycarbonate baby bottles containing BPA [5].

In contrast, a battle is still raging in the US, where the Federal Drugs Administration (FDA) is widely criticised for ignoring its own panel of scientific advisors and siding with the American Chemistry Council (industry’s lobby group) in insisting that BPA is not harmful at current exposure levels.

In Europe, similarly, the European Food Safety Authority has repeatedly reaffirmed its opinion that BPA is ‘safe’, dismissing all scientific evidence on grounds of ‘reliability’ and ‘consistency’.[6].

The toxic effects of BPA should be considered along with other hormone disruptors such as DES and a host of pesticides in the context of the new discipline of epigenetic toxicology. Human epidemiologic evidence reveals that individuals exposed to DES in utero during the first 3 months of pregnancy showed increased incidences of reproductive disorders and the rare cancer, clear cell adenocarcinoma of the vagina. Increased incidences of uncommon disorders were also found in the granddaughter and grandsons of DES-exposed women, suggesting epigenetic inheritance [7]. This has been confirmed in experiments on rats (see later).

The evidence that adult health and disease is influenced by the environment of foetal or early neonatal development is not unique to endocrine disruption. Low birth size and poor nutrition have been associated with increased risk of heart disease, type 2 diabetes, osteoporosis and metabolic dysfunction [8]. Gestation represents a developmental window of vulnerability to epigenetic changes by nutritional and environmental factors [9] (see Epigenetic Inheritance, “What Genes Remember”, SiS 41). There is a mounting body of evidence from both gene-specific and genome-wide studies that environmental exposures particularly in early development can induce epigenetic changes that may be transmitted to subsequent generations and/or lead to diseases in later life.

Toxicogenomics’ referred to a combination of conventional toxicology, the study of poisons especially their effects of organisms and the ecosystem, with genomics, the study of the function of nucleotide sequences in the genomes of organisms [10]. It has contributed immensely to defining the adverse biological effects of environmental stressors, toxins, drugs and chemicals; but is rapidly being transformed into ‘epigenetic toxicology’; here defined as potentially heritable changes in gene expression with, or without accompanying alterations in the DNA sequence of the genome [9] .

Epigenetic mechanisms are necessary for normal development and differentiation, but these can be misdirected, leading to diseases, notably cancers.


The epigenetic progenitor model of cancer and mechanisms
Inherited and spontaneous or environmentally induced epigenetic alterations are increasingly recognized as early molecular events in cancer development, as summarised in a review published in Cancer Journal in 2007 [11], which also described a new epigenetic model of cancer, involving stem cells. Stem cells, present in all multi-cellular organisms, are capable of renewing themselves through cell division and are also pluripotent, i.e., capable of giving rise to a diverse range of differentiated specialized cells [12] (see Hushing Up Adult Stem Cells, SiS 13/14).

Cancer arises in three steps [11]. First, an epigenetic alteration of stem/progenitor cells within a tissue, affecting genes that regulate the expansion of progenitor cells and increase their capacity for self-renewal and pluripotency. For example, loss of regulation of IGF2 promotes an expansion of the progenitor cell compartment, increasing the probability of tumour formation. This alteration can be due to events within the stem cells themselves, the influence of the stromal compartment (the supporting framework of connective tissues in and around organs), or environmental damage or injury.

Second, a gatekeeper mutation occurs in a tumour-suppressor gene (in solid tumours), or rearrangement of an oncogene. At the third and final stage, genetic and epigenetic instability set in, leading to increased tumour evolution.

Epigenetic alterations are potentially more damaging than nucleotide mutations because their effects on regional chromatin structure can spread, thereby affecting multiple genetic loci (units, usually of transcription). Furthermore, they tend to affect a high proportion of those exposed, unlike conventional gene mutations, which are relatively rare. The most commonly described changes in cancer are alterations in the methylation pattern of DNA, but epigenetic modifications of histone proteins are also implicated.

DNA methylation, the covalent addition of a methyl group to the C5 position of cytosine, is involved in many key developmental processes, deregulation of which would result in major developmental abnormalities. These include the inactivation of alleles in imprinted genes, genes that are expressed or not at different times according to whether they come from the mother or the father; inactivation of one of the two X chromosomes in the female to compensate for the male that has only one X chromosome; and in suppressing transposable elements, which would otherwise become expressed, jump around and disrupt genes and genome function in general.

DNA methylation occurs most frequently in CpG islands, and results in a conformational change in the major groove of the DNA that alters protein binding. CpG islands are regions in the genome with a high GC content and frequent CpG occurrence. The human and mouse genome projects identified ~15 500 and ~29 000 CpG islands respectively. Hypermethylation of CpG-rich regions of gene promoters inhibits expression by blocking the initiation of transcription.

Transcription of a number of tumour suppressor genes such as p16 INK4a, BRCA1, p53, and hMLH-1 were found to be inhibited by promoter hypermethylation in cancers.

Although silencing of tumour suppressor gene by DNA methylation occurs frequently in cancer, genome-wide hypomethylation is one of the earliest events in the genesis of cancer. Demethylation of the genome can lead to the reactivation of transposable elements, thereby altering the transcription of adjacent genes, the activation of oncogenes such as H-RAS, and inappropriate expression of imprinted genes. Furthermore, genomic instability associated with the hypermethylation of the DNA mismatch repair enzyme gene MLH1 may deregulate not only critical genes involved in the initial stages of carcinogenesis, but also those involved in the later invasion and metastasis stages.

Two distinct sets of genes that potentially link environmental exposures during pregnancy to adult disease susceptibility are imprinted genes and genes with metastable expression states. Imprinted genes are inactivated according to the parent of origin, so that only one of the two alleles (forms of a gene) should be functional. Metastable epialleles (epigenetic forms of an allele) have highly variable expression because of stochastic changes in their epigenetic state, in at least some cases such as the mouse Agouti gene, due to the insertion of a virus like intracisternal A particle.

Imprinted genes can be deregulated in both germ cells and somatic cells. Because imprinted genes are frequently clustered and their expression co-ordinately regulated by imprinted control regions, a single genetic or epigenetic change in an imprinted control region can result in disrupting many genes. Consequently, imprinted genes are associated not only with severe developmental disorders such as Angelman, Beckwith-Widemann, and Prader-Willi syndromes, but also with cancer. Imprinted genes are at much greater risk of inactivation by mutation and epigenetic alteration because one allele is already inactivated by genomic imprinting. Because imprinted genes normally encode either positive or negative growth effectors, they are frequently involved in the formation of a wide range of tumours.

The epigenome is particularly susceptible to disturbance of regulation by environmental factors during gestation, neonatal development, puberty, and old age. Age-correlated increases in DNA promoter methylation occur in a number of genes involved in cancer, including IGF2. Versican, and PAX6. Alterations in epigenotype have also been observed after adult exposure to xenobiotic chemicals (synthetic chemicals not normally produced or metabolised by organisms).

Studies in animals provide clear evidence of epigenetic inheritance of disease states for generations after the initial exposure, especially in two cases involving hormone disrupting chemicals.

Fungicide caused high incidence of illness up to four generation after exposure
The anti-androgenic compound vinclozolin is a fungicide mainly used on oilseed rape and peas in the UK and on vines, fruit and vegetables worldwide [13]. It was first introduced by BASF in Germany in 1976 and sold under a number of trade names including Ronilan and Flotilla. Vinclozolin is linked to testicular tumours in rats, and reproductive toxicity, and the UK Advisory Committee on Pesticides has kept it under review since 1991, while US Environment Protection Agency considers it an endocrine-disrupting chemical. Vinclozolin is metabolized into more active compounds with higher binding affinity to the androgen receptor.

Researchers at Washington State University Pullman in the United States led by Michael Skinner found that exposure of rats during embryonic development at the time of sex-determination resulted in adult animals from the F1, and subsequent generations up to F4, developing a number of diseases or abnormalities of the prostate, kidney, immune system, testis, and tumours in various tissues. In addition, several blood abnormalities developed including high cholesterol levels.

High incidences of trans-generational disease states were found, consistently across all generations, and appeared to be due in part to epigenetic alterations in the male germ-line, and successive studies carried out confirm the effects [14].

High doses were administered at 100mg/kg/day from embryonic day 8-14 of gestation, with no further treatment in subsequent generations, and inbreeding was avoided. So only the F1 embryos and F2 germ cells (in the F1 embryos) were exposed.

The diseases and abnormalities were scored ‘blind’, i.e., the scorer did not know if the rats were in the group that had been exposed to the chemical.

Testis abnormalities included atrophied tubules, vacuoles or failure of germ cell formation at a rate of 20 percent or greater. Kidney lesions include tubular damage at 30 percent or more, tubular changes involved extreme dilation with protein-rich fluids, fluid-filled cystic tubules, thickening of the Bowman’s capsule surrounding the glomerulus, as well as reduced glomerular area. Ventral prostate tissues were considered abnormal if more than 30 percent of prostate ducts atrophied and contained no columnar secretary epithelial cells. Immune related abnormalities include excessive macrophage and lymphocyte invasion into multiple organs and generally accompanied by bacterial infection. Several types of inflammation were identified in the inner ear, lower limbs, and lower respiratory tract. Sub-dermal abscesses were found which grew in size and caused septicaemia (widespread infection).

There were no tumours in control animals while tumours developed in 12-33 percent of the animals in the F1-F4 generation exposed animals: 4 breast adenomas, 2 breast carcinoma, 1 lung sarcoma and 2 skin Merkel cell melanoma together with the breast adenoma; only the lung sarcoma, Merkel cell tumour and breast carcinoma were malignant. Prostate lesions were detected in 45-55 percent of males. Renal lesions appeared in 20 to 50 percent of males of all vinclozolin-exposed generations, and were also found in females. Abnormal testis function and morphology were found in 15-38 percent of the F1-F4 generations of exposed animals. The pathology included increase in spermatogenic cell death, gross morphological defects in spermatogenesis, and a complete lack of spermatogenesis.

Inflammation of the inner ear, sub-dermal abscesses and bacterial infection were found in 12-33 percent of exposed animals, with no inflammation in controls. Significant increase in cholesterol was found in 35 percent of exposed animals at 6-14 months old, but not at 3 months.

Up to 50 percent of exposed animals also developed an apparent premature ageing with appearance and behaviour at 6-14 months similar to controls older than 18 months.

The frequency of disease in the F1 generation was often less than subsequent generations. Many animals had multiple abnormalities, and 85 percent of all F1-F4 vinclozolin-exposed animals developed a transgenerational disease state. Over 90 percent of all males in F1-F4 vincozolin-exposed group had a reduced capacity of making sperms.

The disease phenotype was primarily transmitted through the male germ-line; a vinclozolin treated F2 male out-crossed to a wild-type female gave an increase in disease prevalence over controls in the F3 generation (though less than the vinclozolin F3), whereas the reverse cross did not. But the female germline also contributed to disease.

Although tumours, renal lesions and prostate lesions are observed in aged (24 mo) rats, none of these were observed in the controls at 6-14 mo, when the two groups of animals were compared.

The results were highly significant, and the frequencies of defects were much higher than could be accounted for by mutations rates, which are typically 1 to 5 percent. The researchers had used an exposure level that is almost 10 times the official lowest level at which adverse effects were observed, i.e., 11 mg/kg/day; but biological effects have been demonstrated at doses around 1mg/kg/day. Environmental levels of vinclozolin have not yet been rigorously determined.

Analysis of the sperm from the F2 and F3 generations identified 25 candidate DNA sequences with altered methylation patterns in the vinclozolin-exposed animals, with 15 sequences confirmed to have specific hypermethylation [15]. These sequences mapped to specific genes and non-coding DNA regions. The expression pattern of several of the genes during embryonic development was altered in the vinclozolin F1 and F2 generation testis, with some decreased in expression while others were increased.

All candidate genes altered in the vinclozolin samples were not in the controls. They are present on various autosomes with no major hot spot regions, and none was present on the sex chromosomes.

Synthetic oestrogen causes cancer in descendants of exposed female animals
The synthetic oestrogen diethylstilbestrol (DES) is a potent prenatal endocrine disruptor. Exposure in humans and experimental animals during critical periods of reproductive tract development in embryogenesis permanently alters oestrogen target tissues and results in long-term abnormalities such as cancer of the uterus later in life.

For almost 30 years, DES was prescribed to women with high-risk pregnancies to prevent miscarriages and other complications. In 1971, a clinical report associated DES with a rare form of reproductive tract cancer, vaginal adenocarcinoma, which was detected in a small number (0.1 percent) of adolescent daughters of women who had taken DES while pregnant [16]. Subsequently, DES was also linked to more frequent benign reproductive tract problems in an estimated 95 percent of the DES-exposed daughters; reproductive organ dysfunction, abnormal pregnancies, reduced fertility and disorders of the immune system. Similarly, male offspring of exposed females showed structural, function, and cellular abnormalities in the reproductive organs, inflammation, and decreased fertility [17].

DES is no longer used clinically to prevent miscarriage, but the exposed are still to reach an age where higher incidence of cancers are expected, and the possibility of second-generation effects has been reported, i.e., in the grandchildren of women prescribed DES, as mentioned earlier.

Recent research in the United States led by Retha Newbold at the National Institutes of Environmental Health Sciences of the National Institute of Health, North Carolina, found that in mice, exposure to DES leads to altered gene expression that includes an oestrogen-regulated component [18]. DES is a model endocrine disruptor and even low doses increase the incidence of cancer in the uterus, as do low doses of other environmental oestrogen. The increased propensity to develop tumours is transmitted through the mother to subsequent generations of male and female descendants. The mechanisms include both genetic and epigenetic events.

Neonatal mice (day 1-5) treated with DES at 2mg/pup/d developed a high incidence of cancer (90-95 percent) at 18-24 months of age. These tumours rarely spread throughout the body, but in aged animals (24 mo or older) the lesions spread to para-aortic lymph nodes or extended to contiguous organs. Similar findings were obtained in rats and hamsters. This may be predictive of carcinogenic potential of environmental estrogens in women as they age, as both the histology of the tumours and the progression to cancer are similar to those seen in women.

In a dose response study, DES was found to cause tumours even at a dose of 0.0002mg/pup/day. Uterine cancer followed a linear dose-dependent response from 0 in controls to 65 percent at 2mg) as did increase in uterine weight/body weight (estrogenicity) (01 in control to 0.3 at 2 mg/pup/day)

Other environmental oestrogens also caused uterine lesions: 17b-estradiol, tamoxifen, hexestrol, tetrafluorodiethylstilbestrol, ethinyl estradiol, 2-hydroxyestradiol, 4-hydroxyestradiol, genistein, nonylphenol, bisphenol A, methoxychlor. Most were tested at 2mg/pup/day, except the weaker estrogens, genistein, nonylphenol, bisphenol A and methoxychlor, which were administered at 200 mg/pup/d. All except methoxychlor caused uterine lesions in aged mice. Methoxychlor failed to cause lesions possibly because neonate liver cannot yet convert it into oestrogen.

Prenatal DES exposure was found to delay the expression of Hox genes involved in the development of the reproductive tract. Wnt genes were also affected. Neo-natal exposure caused demethylation of the oestrogen-responsive gene LF in the mouse uterus, which may be involved in tumour induction.

In hamsters exposed to DES, similarly, uterine carcinoma develop at a high frequency, and imbalances in the oestrogen-regulated uterine expression of c-jun, c-fox, c-myc, bax, bcl-2 and bcl-x proto-oncogenes probably played a role.

Microarray studies with mouse uterus revealed similar altered gene expression pathways that included an oestrogen-regulated component.

In a further series of experiments, prenatal or neonatal treatment with DES led to tumours in the female and male genital tract, and in addition, the susceptibility for tumours was transmitted to the descendants through the maternal germ cell lineage. Transmission via the DES-exposed male was not studied.

The mice were treated with DES prenatally at 2.5, 5 or 10 mg/kg/dy on day 9-16 of gestation, or at 0.002 mg on day 1-5 after birth; these were the highest doses that did not drastically interfere with fertility later in life. When F1 female mice reached sexual maturity, they were bred to control untreated males. Female and male offspring were aged to 17-24 months and examined for genital tract abnormalities. An increased incidence of proliferative lesions of the rete testis (a network of ducts in the centre of the testis associated with the production of sperms and an oestrogen target tissue in the male), and tumours of the reproductive tract were observed in the male offspring. In female offspring, an increased incidence of uterine adenocarcinoma was seen. The incidence was lower in DES descendants than in their parent, (31 percent in F1 at 18 months at neonatal dose of 0.002 compared with 11 percent in their F2 descendants). Several genes were permanently dysregulated after DES treatment. The oestrogen-responsive proteins LF and c-fos were permanently up-regulated in the uterus, and the promoter regions of these genes were hypomethylated. LF was also over-expressed in uterine tissues from female offpring of the DES exposed females.

It is important, therefore, to follow the grandchildren of women exposed to DES.

Large implications for public health and risk assessment of xenobiotics
These findings in epigenetic toxicology have large implications for public health and the risk assessment of xenobiotics. It is estimated that more than 100 000 xenobiotics are on the market in the European Union, some 70 000 are potentially hazardous for human health and/or the ecosystem [19]. The vast majority of these chemicals have not been adequately tested for safety before they were released. Many of them are endocrine disruptors similar to those whose epigenetic effects have been reviewed in this article. Common household products – detergents, disinfectants, plastics and pesticides – contain endocrine disruptors. For example, 56 pesticides in use have been identified as known or suspected endocrine disruptors by the European Union and the scientific community [20], but are still largely unregulated.

The new findings call for urgent action on two fronts. First, all known and suspected endocrine disruptors and carcinogens should be banned or phased out where there is overwhelming scientific evidence of harm, or the precautionary principle, where there is reasonable suspicion of harm. Pesticides and chemical fertilizers are good candidates for phasing out, if not a total ban, as there is now substantial evidence that organic agriculture, which dispenses with pesticides and other chemical inputs, works on all scales, and compost and green manure can maintain or indeed, increase yields over chemical fertilizers [21] (see Food Futures Now *Organic *Sustainable *Fossil Fuel Free,ISIS publication).

Second, an adequate protocol involving transgenerational studies with microarray analyses for genetic and epigenetic effects should be used in all toxicological investigations.

One class of xenobiotics that must be included are genetically modified food and feed, for which epigenetic effects have already been demonstrated in exposed animals, as well as health impacts in both laboratory feeding studies and on livestock and farm workers in farmers’ fields [22-24} (GM is Dangerous and Futile. SiS 40; GM Maize Reduces Fertility & Deregulates Genes in Mice, and GM Maize Disturbs Immune System of Young and Old Mice, SiS 41).
 

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There is a big difference in believing in something, and having any clue at all how to practically apply it. We are not arguing the existence of the epigenome, just arguing that you have not posted up anything indicative of epigenome manipulation in regards to your gardening.

Why don't you quit trying to provide evidence about the existence of something, and provide something which is practicable, rick. You can run around proclaiming the existence of the Epigenome, but that does nothing at all to improve anyone's grow or breeding program. Unless you have some sort of proof of practical application of this knowledge, you're just blowing alot of hot air.

ALL most growers need to know about epigenetics, is that they need to keep their plants as healthy as possible, Until you demonstrate the ability to affect the epigenome of cannabis in such a way so that you unlock some heretofore hidden expression.
 

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Also... your time would be better spent reading articles relating to the epigenome in plants. Learning about animals is cool and all, very interesting, but there is information out there which is specifically applicable to plants. For example did you know that a lot of epigenetic traits in plants have a 'reset button' that kicks in for seed production?
 
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cork144

glad to here your feminized cheese project is still living on,

you get alot of bashing rick, but i know all you realy want to do is create great cannabis

im sure with the right selections based upon the progency of the S1 cheese seeds being pollenated by the original cheese clone, you can do great things.
 
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Rick- :yoinks: I told you the best way to take a gander at epigenetic effects with the seeds you and your friend made. Big surprise, it fell on deaf ears. Your wicked plan is to backcross Cheese S1s? :noway: Good luck with all of that. I'm sure you couldn't make good Cheese seeds if you had Sam himself holding your hand every step of the way. :1help:

oh?
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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that is more a rudely phrased statement of opinion, based on rick's breeding plans and refusal to consider a more effective experiment, than a bash.
or is it now bashing to disagree in a rude manner? Is it bashing to disagree? I guess it all depends on your definition of bashing...
If rick is overly sensitive, maybe he was bashed, but I don't see it..
 
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cork144

well its a dig for sure, im not only on about this topic, he got alot of bashing for his reversed backcrossing(?)

i never said you did at all, so i dont know why your getting defencive
 

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"getting defensive?"
lol... that's funny... nothing i said sounded very defensive...
That would be like me calling your original post patronizing. It just ain't quite accurate.
 
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cork144

i see it as to be so because i came here to leave a message to rick just giving him some re-ensurence on his projects, instead i guess ive had to defend what ive said, im going to leave it at this, simply because, all i wanted to do was what i stated in this first line, not debate.
 

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Looks like it has been mostly covered here, but in a nutshell...

I got to learn about epigenetics in a dynamics of biocultural diveristy anthropology class that i took a couple semesters back. Quite simply epigenetics is the influencial environment stimulus that impact the expression of traits over time, whether such expressions be positive or negative. It has nothing to do with the inheritance of successful genetic traits through generations.

An example of epigenetics could be if you are growing and in your grow room, you have one plant out of all that sits directly in front of your A/C and as such receives a significant amount of more cold air throughout the course of it's life in comparison to the other plants that are adequately cooled. Due to the intense stimuli of the additional cold air that this one plant is receiving versus the other plants, one may start to exhibit certain physical traits that would have otherwise not of ocurred had the plant not received the direct stimulus from the A/C over time. Perhaps said trait shows up in the form of accelerated resin production to insulate from the cold or an increased number of fan leaves to help the plant retain heat.
 

Grat3fulh3ad

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right on...
Usually when one comes in to a discussion like this one,
and post up something supporting someone who is 'being bashed' by the others in the discussion,
then they are joining in the debate...

Sorry I misunderstood your show of support in defense of rick and his projects, and engaged you in conversation about it... Peace and love
 
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cork144

dont get me wrong im not trying to come off as a prick, debating is good,

i respect you alot, you do great work, i engaged myself into further conversation about it, so its probably my fualt
 

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Looks like it has been mostly covered here, but in a nutshell...

I got to learn about epigenetics in a dynamics of biocultural diveristy anthropology class that i took a couple semesters back. Quite simply epigenetics is the influencial environment stimulus that impact the expression of traits over time, whether such expressions be positive or negative. It has nothing to do with the inheritance of successful genetic traits through generations.

An example of epigenetics could be if you are growing and in your grow room, you have one plant out of all that sits directly in front of your A/C and as such receives a significant amount of more cold air throughout the course of it's life in comparison to the other plants that are adequately cooled. Due to the intense stimuli of the additional cold air that this one plant is receiving versus the other plants, one may start to exhibit certain physical traits that would have otherwise not of ocurred had the plant not received the direct stimulus from the A/C over time. Perhaps said trait shows up in the form of accelerated resin production to insulate from the cold or an increased number of fan leaves to help the plant retain heat.

And perhaps that epigenetic state could be passed into the seed that that plant produces, assuming that cannabis has no epigenetic reset mechanism, but growing that seed in a hot environment would soon cause another epigenetic change.

The epigenome is what tells your skin cells to be skin cells instead of bone cells or brain cells, even though all of your cells have exactly the same DNA.

Epigenetic traits are sometimes heritable, but still conditionally temporary.
 

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hay cork....thanks for the positive re-inforcement,,,,GMT is wickid at that too,,,,,,il let out the full details of my Reverced Backcross soon,,,,im expecting major flack,,,,,,you know 1 year ago i was arguing FOR selfing as a breeding tool,,,,,now its exepted as cool since Tom made us read Allard,,,

im not sayin im right,,,im just havin fun,,,please join me


ISIS said:
Researchers at Washington State University Pullman in the United States led by Michael Skinner found that exposure of rats during embryonic development at the time of sex-determination resulted in adult animals from the F1, and subsequent generations up to F4, developing a number of diseases or abnormalities of the prostate, kidney, immune system, testis, and tumours in various tissues. In addition, several blood abnormalities developed including high cholesterol levels.

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The new findings call for urgent action on two fronts. First, all known and suspected endocrine disruptors and carcinogens should be banned or phased out where there is overwhelming scientific evidence of harm, or the precautionary principle, where there is reasonable suspicion of harm. Pesticides and chemical fertilizers are good candidates for phasing out, if not a total ban, as there is now substantial evidence that organic agriculture, which dispenses with pesticides and other chemical inputs, works on all scales, and compost and green manure can maintain or indeed, increase yields over chemical fertilizers [21] (see Food Futures Now *Organic *Sustainable *Fossil Fuel Free,ISIS publication).



ISIS said:
Epigenetic change is usually defined as that which does not involve changing DNA sequences, or “the structural adaptation of chromosomal regions so as to register signal or perpetuate altered activity states” [14], but such definition are rapidly becoming obsolete.

ISIS said:
Toxicogenomics’ referred to a combination of conventional toxicology, the study of poisons especially their effects of organisms and the ecosystem, with genomics, the study of the function of nucleotide sequences in the genomes of organisms [10]. It has contributed immensely to defining the adverse biological effects of environmental stressors, toxins, drugs and chemicals; but is rapidly being transformed into ‘epigenetic toxicology’; here defined as potentially heritable changes in gene expression with, or without accompanying alterations in the DNA sequence of the genome [9] .

Epigenetic mechanisms are necessary for normal development and differentiation, but these can be misdirected, leading to diseases, notably cancers.

Inherited and spontaneous or environmentally induced epigenetic alterations are increasingly recognized as early molecular events in cancer development, as summarised in a review published in Cancer Journal in 2007 [11], which also described a new epigenetic model of cancer, involving stem cells. Stem cells, present in all multi-cellular organisms, are capable of renewing themselves through cell division and are also pluripotent, i.e., capable of giving rise to a diverse range of differentiated specialized cells [12] (see Hushing Up Adult Stem Cells, SiS 13/14).
 

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hay Head,,,,,,,,

what would you say if i started damaging my enviroment "intentionaly" just to expose intersexed plants,, then i removed the intedsexed plants leaving me to breed with the 1`s that suit my damaged enviroment,,,,,,,,

would this be damaging to the line,,,???????????
 

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