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growMEDS

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I haven't had any issues with the plastic pieces that hold the frame. I have everything hanging from the frame (reflector, fan, filter)

They are pretty strong in my experience.
 
HighonPottery

HighonPottery

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TheFallenLion said:
Phellow you can simply top the largest plants, you will lose some bud, but the auxins should travel down to the side branches making up for it, this would solve your height issue.

Ok this is my opinion time, all of the tents sans the Sun Hut look like crap to me, and I will explain why, when you buy a 250+ dollar tent, and the frame isn't all steel, and they expect you to securely mount a vent fan and carbon filter, and in many people's cases an air cooled hood... then not having all steel framework with interlocking joints seems to me to be utterly and completely asinine.

I've seen the Dark Room, the Hydro Hut, the HomeBox, they all have plastic cross joints..... the Hydro and the Dark Room above look like strong frames until you see the corners.

If anyone can correct me on this, go ahead...

Next I would say if you run ANS50 or 51 with a mag core HPS ballast, then you're killing yourselves not switching over to CMH bulbs, your resin production will go through the roof.

The only reason you shouldn't switch is a massive investment in HPS/MH ballasts of watt rating that take you out of the game.

If you're a newbie or someone looking to upgrade, if you run a 3x3 tent, get a 250W CMH and go to town, if you're in a 4x4 go for a 400W CMH, if you're in a 4x8 go for 2x 400W or 3x 250. Some people prefer penetration, others prefer multiple light sources.

And may I suggest that with a CMH since the vast majority of the heat travels upwards, that you switch to vertical bulbs (Philips MasterColor Retro White) as they have a proven safety record, so the normal concerns for MH or HPS of bulb shattering isn't an issue if you buy Philips.

Then you can simply hang it on a yo yo, install your main vent fan and filter at the top of the tent, and vent up and out.

Actually you could install one duct on the top, some duct work, your scrubber mounted and hanging from the studs above, duct work into the antic, inline blower, more duct work and bam, heat is gone.

CMH is wonderful kids, you can get your un air cooled reflector within six inches of the canopy with no burn, trust me I've done it.

Ok I talked smack on the other tent makers for their weak frames, but who of all the makers has the thickest canvas? From what I've read every single tent on the market has pinhole size light leaks due to the canvas being thin the silver lining material having holes in it.
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not trying to hate on your post as this is your opinion, but FYI the HydroHut Silver has an ALL STEEL framework and the pieces all clip together with spring-loaded ball bearings:
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. the corners of the canvas are also reinforced for extra strength in that area. the weight capacity of the ceiling is rated at 130lbs for the 3x3 and even at 110lbs for the 4x8, which is plenty of capacity and is a tad higher than most manufacturers. also, the canvas is very thick and does a great job of keeping the light in. with my 1000w light in there (hydrohut 3x3), the only light leaks i've got are a couple tiny pinholes where the thread stitching is at - you've also gotta have the room completely dark in order to see them.

and are you for real on your light recommendations? a 250w in a 3x3 or 2x400w in a 4x8? are we trying to grow popcorn nugs or some BUDS? CMH lights are great and definitely have their place - like in a micro grow where you have height/footprint restrictions. but in a tent, you've gotta push it to the max and use that light reflectivity to your advantage. penetration is definitely where it's at! i run a 1000w in my 3x3 and wouldn't even consider a light smaller than 600w. now if i had 2x400w CMH, that's a different story - but still twice what you recommended.

also...with ALL bulbs, the majority of the heat generated will go up. why is this? it's because heat rises! most bulb failures resulting in shattering/explosions are the result of getting the hot bulb wet or getting the oils from your skin on them.

my :2cents:
 
grasper

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actually, i should have specified.
will be two 150w with the ballast in the hood, so another hood is not an option.
i was thinking i could get by with a cheap axial near the top...... but i would like to hear
other suggestions
 
growMEDS

growMEDS

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grasper said:
actually, i should have specified.
will be two 150w with the ballast in the hood, so another hood is not an option.
i was thinking i could get by with a cheap axial near the top...... but i would like to hear
other suggestions
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I think 2 of those light systems will be too hot for a tent even with fans blowing at the bulbs unless your ambient temps are pretty low.
 
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weezybleezy

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HighonPottery said:
not trying to hate on your post as this is your opinion, but FYI the HydroHut Silver has an ALL STEEL framework and the pieces all clip together with spring-loaded ball bearings:
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. the corners of the canvas are also reinforced for extra strength in that area. the weight capacity of the ceiling is rated at 130lbs for the 3x3 and even at 110lbs for the 4x8, which is plenty of capacity and is a tad higher than most manufacturers. also, the canvas is very thick and does a great job of keeping the light in. with my 1000w light in there (hydrohut 3x3), the only light leaks i've got are a couple tiny pinholes where the thread stitching is at - you've also gotta have the room completely dark in order to see them.

and are you for real on your light recommendations? a 250w in a 3x3 or 2x400w in a 4x8? are we trying to grow popcorn nugs or some BUDS? CMH lights are great and definitely have their place - like in a micro grow where you have height/footprint restrictions. but in a tent, you've gotta push it to the max and use that light reflectivity to your advantage. penetration is definitely where it's at! i run a 1000w in my 3x3 and wouldn't even consider a light smaller than 600w. now if i had 2x400w CMH, that's a different story - but still twice what you recommended.

also...with ALL bulbs, the majority of the heat generated will go up. why is this? it's because heat rises! most bulb failures resulting in shattering/explosions are the result of getting the hot bulb wet or getting the oils from your skin on them.

my :2cents:
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How hard do you think a 600 would be to cool in a hydrohut 3x3? I was originally thinking of going with a GL80 and a 400watt but now im considering a 600w in a hydrohut. The problem is I live i socal and the ambient temps arent always the lowest, an i would like to keep the noise down. assuming i went with the 600 would a 6" vortex pulling through a filter and a cooltube suffice?
 
HighonPottery

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weezybleezy said:
How hard do you think a 600 would be to cool in a hydrohut 3x3? I was originally thinking of going with a GL80 and a 400watt but now im considering a 600w in a hydrohut. The problem is I live i socal and the ambient temps arent always the lowest, an i would like to keep the noise down. assuming i went with the 600 would a 6" vortex pulling through a filter and a cooltube suffice?
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no more difficult than trying to cool a 1000watter! i think a 600 in a 3x3 hydrohut would be a great combo. it's probably the ideal size for the tent (as you'll be over 60w/sq ft) w/o going overkill. a 4x4 should get a 1000w. i think with a 6" fan and a cooltube, you should have no issues battling heat. i find that having "lights on" at nighttime really helps with the temps, it also makes things a little bit easier in terms of maintenance (for me at least). leave your inline fan running 24/7 as well as at least one canopy fan. rigid ducting also helps move air.
 
phellowship

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i have a 6 in vortex thats dooin a good job cooling 2 600 watt air cooled hoods in a sunhut xl silver.
6 plants in there and im doing 5 next round because of the 4x4 foot.
one 600 watt wasnt cutting it and i wouldnt go with anything less than a 1000 in there
 
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ynot-llat

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I just bought a no name tent from a wholesaler.
It didnt' come with any instructions besides one piece of paper.

I've gotten the stands and all the poles up in the correct position.
My only problem is the tarp is too heavy and i'm having trouble getting it up to fit properly.
Any advice anyone can give me is greatly appreciated
 
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ericed

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Friends,
I have a GroLab60 and wanted to give a warning to everyone. The straps that come with it are garbage. I had an S&P TD100 (~3lbs) hung by one and the stitching ripped apart and dropped and damaged my fan. If I had a heavier/more expensive fan, the damage could have been tremendous. I urge all of you get chains and/or different straps. Besides the straps, the tent is A+ work. I love it.
 
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Juice_Box

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I've never had any problems with those straps

grow lab 145 user here.
1000w
tight



Ive also ran the 3x3 with 2 400's in it with only a 6 in vortex on a rheostat and that cooled if fine. wasn't air cooled
 
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ynot-llat

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Hey Juicebox, nice tent. DId you have trouble setting it up. Got any tips?
I just bought a no name tent from a wholesaler.
It didnt' come with any instructions besides one piece of paper.

I've gotten the stands and all the poles up in the correct position.
My only problem is the tarp is too heavy and i'm having trouble getting it up to fit properly. 6ft by 6ft by 6ft
Any advice anyone can give me is greatly appreciated



Juice_Box said:
I've never had any problems with those straps

grow lab 145 user here.
1000w
tight



Ive also ran the 3x3 with 2 400's in it with only a 6 in vortex on a rheostat and that cooled if fine. wasn't air cooled
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durgamata

durgamata

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Homebox XXL 'Seconds'

1000w + Yield Master II

400w + WingReflector

250w + Hydrofarm Reflector/Ballast

465cfm Blower Intake connnected to mounted window A/C 5050BTU
465cfm Lasko Utility Fan exhaust
0.9amp Large shop fan



 
Todd P

Todd P

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watch out for outgassing! i lost some cash on a piece of crap tent that would not let anything grow inside!! i deystroyed the damb thing cuz im not gonna take advantage of someone else . i got burned look out!
 
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Am I the only one seeing these SUNHUT XXL's at horticulturesource.com for way under where everywhere else is listing them for.
 
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