Chem #4 Pure Organics

[Crazy Composer]

isn`t it sshXchemD<?
looks like it!

I don't understand... you're asking if Chem #4 is Chem D x SSH?

 

[Pbud]

isn`t it sshXchemD<?
looks like it!

Chem 4 is from a seed found in some incredible indoor(dogbud) grown in Colorado in the late 80's early 90's. I think 12 seeds were found in a couples oz. Beans were saved for many years and 4 were sprouted(07) and labeled 1,2,3,4 and 4 was the keeper. Read the chemdog 101 thread. CC yours look wonderful by the way!!!!

 

[NOYB]

Here we go...lol...Chem 3 is still around and just saw recently some Chem 2 cross beans have appeared on the scene...and yes from a very legit source.

 

[Buddle]

Chem D seems less finicky to me? Beautiful buds CC.I am 4 wks in with a few of these #4's..can't wait..peace

 

[Laughing Jim]

I gotta admit something...
i am terribly confused about all these different "Chem" varities.

 

[Slipklot]

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one thing i notice about chems are when dried and curecd right they take on a gold color. sicc 4s man, i agree with 4 and og being similar almost think they related.

 

[NOYB]

I gotta admit something...
i am terribly confused about all these different "Chem" varities.

Chem D is the biggie then Chem 4. There are some people that hold Chem 3 and seems there's some Chem 2 cross beans..only found out about that within the last few days but appears to be held/released by Chem himself. Then there's Chem(s) Sister but probably more importantly Chem 91...all from those bag seeds.

 

[mysophilia]

Fantastic description... One thing I have found if taking chem 4 past 80 days she gets a real deep coffee taste... She will ring your bell too.. 70 days still a great smoke too.. I love chem4.. I can say that I have tried for a long time to reach a ceiling and havent been able to do so...

 

[- ezra -]

Chem D has the TMV, which stands for Tobacco Mosaic Virus. At least that's what the rumor is. I know for sure that it has something, because the leaves are variegated (having white patches mixed in with the green in this case). Over the past few years the variegation has worsened... to the point now where the plants actually suffer from light poisoning much more easily. They've become sensitive. I'm sure some D cuts, kept in other places aren't as bad... but the ones in my grow circles are effected quite clearly. Chem #4 has no such problems.

Firstly, it seems highly unlikely that Chem D could have TMV as that particular virus apparently infects plants from the family Solanaceae, where clearly Chem D belongs to the family Cannabaceae. This might be pedantic to some, but according to wiki, there are 73 genera of plant viruses...

Anyway, what i wanted to say was that there are techniques available which can be employed to eliminate virus infections. It may well be worth a try...



this is in reference to potato cultivation:

Meristem Culture:

The apical meristem together with one to three young leaf primordia , measuring 0.1-0.5mm, has been referred as meristem-tip. It is well known that the distribution of viruses in plants is uneven. In infected plants the apical meristems are generally either free or carry a very low concentration of the viruses. Meristem-tip culture although mainly used for virus elimination , it has also enabled plants to be freed from other pathogens, including mycoplasmas, bacteria, and fungi. Although the apical meristems are often free of viruses, there are evidences that suggest some viruses actually invade the meristematic region of the growing tips. Potato Virus S (PVS) and Potato virus X (PVX) are difficult to eliminate by thermotherapy or meristem-tip culture alone. In such cases it has been possible to obtain virus-free plants by combining meristem-tip culture with thermotherapy. Anti viral chemicals have also been used to eliminate viruses alone or in combination with meristem culture or heat treatment. In our laboratory we have combined meristem-tip culture with heat treatment and chemotherapy to achieve a high percentage of plantlet regeneration & eradication of viruses.

This is what I would personally try if I had an infected Chem D or other prized clone. Its not a problem for me as I dont have any such clones, but if i did thats what i would try because i have access to the equipment and materials, but you could do it without a lab if you were careful and used aseptic technique...

 

[Crazy Composer]

I hear you ezra, I always thought it was a little crazy for a tobacco virus to be affecting cannabis. But something IS affecting the Chem D clone... whatever it is. The visrus alone isn't enough for me to stop growing it... I'm just moving on.

 

[JeffSpicoli]

The chem#4 is nice, ive smoked a few different batches of it, from different growers/enviroments... Ive never been to impressed by her... She is good herb, but nothing i would write home about... I guess different strokes for different folks...

I do really enjoy the high of the 4, but it definitely didnt seem as potent as the D, at least for me

 

[Crazy Composer]

Yeah, you know... the first time I grew it/smoked it... I was totally unimpressed too. But something happened as I grew accustomed to it. I favor it over the D now for high. The D more taste, but the #4's taste is light and slightly lemony... which I really like. The high of the 4 has never gotten old for me... while the D has sort of gotten to the point where I can smoke it and get high maybe twice a day. The 4 gets me high any time I want to smoke it! hehehe Different strokes, exactly.

 

[Mrs.Tango420]

I am looking forward to this! We are running our #4s in all organic too! We got a good friend who sent a stork over with 10 each of ChemD, Chem#4 and A11.Only ONE #4 made it and ONE A11. This is the second time hubby and I have tried the D Never get that fucker to root! lol
Got this one tagged CC! Hubby has talked a good bit about you, and I have read plenty of your stuff. Love your Chem and SFV work man!

 

[JDOG6000]

Cool thread guys. Love to see the chems being praised. I love the 4 and the D too. Can't beat the smell and taste of the D like u said but the high from the 4 is just awesome.

 

[JeffSpicoli]

whoa its JDOG!!! long time no see... Cool to see you are still on the boards.

 

[- ezra -]

I hear you ezra, I always thought it was a little crazy for a tobacco virus to be affecting cannabis. But something IS affecting the Chem D clone... whatever it is. The visrus alone isn't enough for me to stop growing it... I'm just moving on.

So you dont think its worth trying to de-virus the D? I thought meristem culture might be worth a try, you dont think its worth the effort? Sorry if this is a little off topic...

 

[JDOG6000]

Ya, I'm still lurkin in the shadows from time to time.

 

[htownblowskush]

yeap i wish we had that cut floating around texas

 

[RAGGA MON]

Its all over texas.

 

[somedaysoon]

Firstly, it seems highly unlikely that Chem D could have TMV as that particular virus apparently infects plants from the family Solanaceae, where clearly Chem D belongs to the family Cannabaceae. This might be pedantic to some, but according to wiki, there are 73 genera of plant viruses...

Anyway, what i wanted to say was that there are techniques available which can be employed to eliminate virus infections. It may well be worth a try...



this is in reference to potato cultivation:



This is what I would personally try if I had an infected Chem D or other prized clone. Its not a problem for me as I dont have any such clones, but if i did thats what i would try because i have access to the equipment and materials, but you could do it without a lab if you were careful and used aseptic technique...

That is Bunk!

TMV can and certainly does inhabit the cannabis species,also with a terrible consequence when it flares up during flowering.

Get your facts straight bro!

The tmv is being passed around gardens with the Chem cuts...
I know I was infected with it and it took 1.5 years to fully rid it from my garden,,it took alot of work and the use of Messenger to do this...



You'd better look into acquiring and using messenger if you have this virus,,,it works...