how would bruce lee fare in UFC?

[pSi007]

i might have replied to this thread and `i-might`ve not... I have had this conversation 1000 times...

bruce lee was about 5'6" and weighed about 135 lbs. these days we have in common, I have seen those days in a way that is a Bruce Lee, god....


135lbs and beat yo fuggin face and spinal cord to pieces...




My old trainer for Tai Kwon Do, he was an olympic medal winner. He told me, "My legs hit harder than mike tyson can punch, I can run on my legs for 15 miles.".

he was telling the truth..

 

[bentom187]

i dont think a ufc fighter or any type of fighter is going to have a chance even to connect with a punch so my money is on bruce
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKAeyUS91I8&feature=related

 

[jack DA reaper]

,,,,After a few months being tought take down defence like ,most strikers, CHuck liddel,silva,wandlia sylva and the likes He would win the fucking ULtimate fighter season 75 or what ever it is then get his shot to fight bj penn...Most forget Bruce was a training beast and his conditioning was off the fucking hinges......And he was familair with regular JUjitsu and defence of it...

I think he would make Light weight champ in no time or atleast give Bj a run for his money, BUt a street fight Bruce would win...

or throw all the ufc in the ring and give bruce some nunchucks and see who comes out alive

 

[Bobby Stainless]

 

[kaotic]

Good stuff.

Good stuff.

The obvious wing chun fighter is on the left, identified by the ackward hand movement. Good ol American ground and pound on the right. See how it plays out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcaqH8fb--c&feature=related


I'm not going to go through all the video to prove something I know as fact. I've been there and done that, I know what works. If you want to see it just do a search, Muay thai vs Wing chun and you'll see what the general ending is. You have your opinion and I have my facts. I'll leave it at that.

 

[Bobby Stainless]

HAHAHAHAHA!

 

[10k]

The obvious wing chun fighter is on the left, identified by the ackward hand movement. Good ol American ground and pound on the right. See how it plays out?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcaqH8fb--c&feature=related


I'm not going to go through all the video to prove something I know as fact. I've been there and done that, I know what works. If you want to see it just do a search, Muay thai vs Wing chun and you'll see what the general ending is. You have your opinion and I have my facts. I'll leave it at that.

Right on kaotic !

 

[Cinderella99]

Dudes...UFC = bunch of hype. Check out my man Fedor and his training

 

[osirica420]

Most you UFC guys don't really see the picture here..
ANY style will work it all comes down to the person performing it..

A great Martial "Artist" notice how i am putting emphasis on Artist, practices a art form. Some forms of art will require more skill and very rigorous training..

For example for its easy for almost anyone to draw a normal looking stick figure person it would be a form of art..

Most UFC guys use brute force and I would compare this to people drawing stick figures
almost anyone can train in the gym and learn how to do a few core ground and standing moves and be a opponent...

But its extremely hard to pull off a mona lisa..

There are 1000s of different martial art fighting forms, some do make more sense then others but thats besides that point it all comes down to the person and how well they are suited for that particular martial form and how much "kung fu" (means - time and effort) they put into it.

I quit Wing Chun years ago because I wanted something more well rounded I switch to Northern Eagle Claw which incorporates everything, I feel its more suited to me and can perform this art very well..

here are some demos on the locks..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfsbFwo-yo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwGk0z1hjMQ

So when it all boils down to it it ain't the style its the person...

And Bruce Lee was the MAN!! RIP!!!

 

[MtnKuSh]

Bruce constantly adapted when fighting and with ease takes out any and every opponent.. if he was still around he would be much older now..but given like 15 years ago if he would have had this fight Bruce by now would be so so more far advanced in every way even more so then he was back in the day, Bruce would take any ufc guy in less then 2-3mins and he prob kill the dude.>on that note UFC is a step up from a glorified street fight..for money. ahh tap out

 

[MtnKuSh]

 

[Cinderella99]

Wow...I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this...It's been at least 15 years since I've been involved in this kind of discussion...But it's so much fun.

"...almost anyone can train in the gym and learn how to do a few core ground and standing moves and be a opponent..."

Dude, you know that stand up fighting game- striking - will only get you so far...That's why most champs have the judo or Brazilian Judo...

It's not so easy just to learn a few take down moves to balance your striking game...

Seriously, though, check out Emelianenko...This guy is not human!

 

[osirica420]

It's not so easy just to learn a few take down moves to balance your striking game...

Tru but it goes vice-versa..
Unless your training in something well rounded like Eagle Claw for example..

Thats why most people mix styles..

Truly All breaks down to the person and what he is good at..
Its about finding and being real with yourself..

Brawn or Brain whichever one suits you...

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

this thread should have been a poll, so that we could see that Bruce Lee would be kicking ass in the poll as well

 

[JoJoDancer]

Bruce would kick Lyoto's ass in 20 seconds..

 

[PazVerdeRadical]

In the book that Bruce Lee wrote 'The Tao of Jeet Kune Do' he states "most Americans schooled in Boxing and Wrestling could beat any Traditional Martial Artist practicing at the time." Which is what he came to think through experience.

Here's another quote: "A man with one year training in boxing and wrestling can beat any martial artist with 15 years of experience" -Bruce Lee

So do you think Lee is wrong?

Im not saying he would'nt be great if he was around, he has all the atributes and talent to make it big, but don't be so quick to dismiss western fighting techniques. Also keep in mind he was never a competitive professional fighter and had little to no grappling ability.

I guess the original question is impossible anyway since bruce was only 135 and would of had to put on alot of weight to make even lightweight.

man, I missed this post...

yeah, Bruce Lee did say that, he did say good western fighters could take on many traditional chinese martial artists for sure, but guess what? he never said that such fighters could take him :wink: as already mentioned by tons of other posters, Bruce Lee did not consider his fighting style a traditional chinese system, he was interested in being an excellent all around fighter, without prejudices of eastern or western, he just wanted to be the best.

paz

 

[magiccannabus]

It was stated earlier in this thread, but it bears repeating: there's no lethal blows allowed in UFC. Bruce Lee could probably have killed a lot of these UFC guys easier than he could have put them into submission. So it's really silly to try to compare his style fighting to competitive MMA.

 

[ddrew]

You guys really have to give this whole "Death blows" shit a rest, please link to one account of someone killing someone with the use of a single MA death blow, lol.
When I was little I thought Bruce Lee could kill anyone, I was sure of it, then I got older, started wrestling, played around with some little MA lessons here and there, watched the extreme fighting sport evolve, and based on what I have seen, experienced first hand, and the opinions of respected fighters, I reached the logical conclusion that he would get beaten by any number of people, now had he been born in 1980, and had a chance to incorporate the evolved style of training that exists today in with his own, then yes I feel he would have been a very dominate lightweight in extreme fighting, similar to Uriah Fabar, and BJ Penn, but if you took Bruce from his era and put him in a time machine at his peak and brought him to current times, many people would beat him initially, he would evolve and adapt and it would be interesting to see where he would take the sport.
He was a great man, but he was just a man, a mortal man with physical limitations like the rest of us.

 

[StoneByName]

I think people are underestimating the amount of technical ability needed to win a fight on the floor. A specialist in brazilian jiu jitsu would not lose to someone who has trained it somewhat. Bruce would do well with adaption. There's a lot of hero worship here and whilst Bruce was obviously a devout and great martial artist he can't beat people at their own game without training for that game.

If we are talking about early UFC 'competitions' he would probably dominate and only struggle against Royce Gracie.

I am not sure about all the 'death blow' comments, whilst this idea is overhyped in films it has some grounding in reality, pressure points. However these tactics were designed for self defense and I think were probably more of a pre-emptive strike where you could gaurantee surprise and accuracy. You have to be highly accurate for this to work, half an inch off and it is worthless. Think how much people struggle to hit someone in the head, a fairly large object in comparison to an inch by inch square or so. Also the factor that your opponent is on the defense automatically and will be moving and blocking attacks. All this adds up to difficulty hitting such a small, moving, blocked target. On the ground I would assume it would be easier to hit a target but I think you'd consider parts of the neck a pressure point and people can survive whilst being choked and escape so I'm not sure what to make of this idea.

 

[bentom187]

i see were alot of jujistu and judo guys are saying hed lose on the ground he isnt big but,the hard part is getting bruce lee to the floor,