is california really "all that" for grower's?

[ARTofMAKINGfire]

An average example. It can be a little more it can be a little less but this is a middle ground example

Grower sells - 1# / $7.50 per gram = $3400.00 for 1 pound average (minus expenses)
Street seller - 454 grams x $20.00 per gram = $9080.00 Its possible to make close to 3 times purchase price. With no over head.


I stand by my comment. The street seller makes the biggest profit has the least expenses and doesn't work 24/7.

Show me the math to prove otherwise.
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$3400 is retarded low. More like $4000. Even you could pull 1.5 pounds a light with the right strain...

So a 2K watt grow, (small by ALL measures) would produce
approx. 60K dollars annually.

A "street seller" (LMAO) can sell a whole pound grammed out at $20 a piece, stay out of county, AND do it all with LESS EFFORT than running 2K? I think things are becoming clear.... Oh wait. I forgot. You said he can do it with no overhead. LMFAO. Where does he GET the marijuana? What do you call that? About $4000 worth of overhead!

You talk our your ass.

Now. Let's bump it up to figures I like. If you only produce 24 ounces from 2K per run, you could easily break it down to QP's and possible Onions DEPENDING on your abilities to sell. There is no reason you can't average $300 an ounce no matter how you break it down. That's $4800 a pound and it's WALKING OUT THE DOOR AT THOSE PRICES. About $7K per 2K of wattage per run LOW BALL! Around 42 thousand dollars a year.

Do you know how many 20 bags that is? Let's I purchase a pound from you for $3400. I sell it all in $20 gram bags. I don't sell one for less, smoke any, or hook people up that want to buy more. Cause "I only sell $20's if you don't want it, I don't want your money." So as you said, 454 hand to hand's later, I have about 9K. Subtract the $3400 it cost, and I made $5600.

How long did it take me? Well if I make 25 sales a day. (Show me a weed "street dealer" who makes that many sales and doesn't peddle crack as well) and I can sell it in about 20 days. Or about 17K in as much time as it takes me to EASILY make 7K from a small operation after my normal job at night.

I can't wait for you to tell me that you stand by your point.

I underestimate ALL the abilities of the grower in this scenario and there is no drug dealer with that I know that exists who can sell a pound in $20 grams without fail in 20 days. Also, who sells pounds of dank for $3400. With the same wattage, one could easily produce much more and sell for much more. Easily closing that gap and EASILY making more.

2 lbs a light.
2 lights.
4 pounds.
5 grand a pound.
20K a run.

Don't do it if you can't DO IT.

Sorry for being off topic. Just smoked, saw this...

 

[Brother Bear]

now that make a little more sense to me
only argument i could think of......
is that's east coast thinking right ?
perhaps it's a bit different in Cali ? i dunno
mebbe we make more loot over here

 

[GET MO]

No more than 4000 for purp, 3800 tops for the best green ever, thats if you know the right people. Clubs pay 3600 tops for top shelf purple and 34 tops for green, and thats only if its the best of the best. Average good weed they pay 2800-3200, 2500-2800 for bomb outdoor. This is just off season prices, dont try ta sell no herbs in the fall....

 

[JohnnyATL]

I just wanted to say, in atlanta "street dealers" or middle man or whatever u wanna call them do sell twenty a gram, and its not just singles. For the most part good exotic cali weed that gets shipped in goes for about 1600-1750 a quarter pound and goes for 20 a g almost all the way up.

ask most people for a p its around 5500 or 6000


140 a qtr
500-525 a oz

The only way for growers in cali to make any money is to have a hook on the east coast and alot of balls. Otherwise you are just growing in an oversaturated market for super low prices.

 

[Haps]

Vertically integrated, solo op for the complete cycle is the best profit model and works anywhere. Takes a bit of development, and you have to feel the dance.

 

[pineappaloupe]

I dunno about anyone else, but the market is flooded.
Dont plan on getting rich, most people I know just cover a lot of cash expenses, save up and go on vacations. No one I know is buying cars, shit not even nice TVs. Many do it to support their art.
I know people who can't get good enough health care, so they cover the $1500/cost growing. I think that is admirable.

 

[emmy75]

Item "B" is false...the State Supreme court has determined you have to have an extensive caretaking role in the patients life Before and other than providing medicine.

If you know this from experience then I will believe you. However i was offered to be a caretaker for another member. he lives in up north while i live in socal. obviously being in differnt counties would make it impossible for me to have an extensive caretaking role in his life. and it seemed like i wasnt his only caretaker.

riverrat as long as you keep you plants to a minimum i think you should be ok here in cali, especially up north. san franciso is god's greatest city to this world.

 

[Natagonnaworrie]

Having done it on both the East Coast and the West i can definitivly say that you are absolutly never going to get rich growing weed. thats for the cartels. Pay the bills maybe, but once you go big, no matter where that is, the clock starts ticking. those of you that are into this shit know what i mean, you can feel it. you can only do that for so long until you have issues.

during my 'growing up' phase i overextended myself and went too big. too big for me was 6000+ watts of lights. too much going on. then, i promise you this, once one person finds out, everyone finds out... tick tock. As for the money, damn that goes as fast as it comes and something ALWAYS seems to come up that requires more investment... its like filling a bucket with a hole in it.

i have found that the best model for me now is to have a small 600w or 1000w personal grow. In Cali you dont have to worry if you are doing that. I keep a small veg cab for my favorite mothers, but i can go buy new ones and try different strains whenever i want. Back home i could never have had access to clones like this. You had to keep a fully operation veg area if you were going to do perpetual and the plants had to be BIG to keep the plant numbers down for legal reasons. Now i just grow my 12, havest a pound give or take of the finest variety of flavors every 2 months or so, smoke what i want and have plenty extra.

if you wanted to be more serious than me you could harvest 1.5 lbs every 60 days, sell that (give me a break, you dont have to sell to the clubs, bomb weed out here sells for more than back east. Delivery services charge 65 - 85 for eights.) and make enough money to party as long as your not a total bum and you have at least some other income, job. your grow cant be that hard either that you cant do anything else right?

anyway, thats just me. my experiences ar sure to be different that other peoples. i'm just glad to have gotten through the crazy youth with #1 my life, #2 no criminal record. And, nothing two horrible having happened to me, because god knows, there was a few close calls.

botton line. to answer your question... IT IS EASIER THAN WHERE YOU ARE AT.

 

[Pirate]

....With the same wattage, one could easily produce much more and sell for much more. Easily closing that gap and EASILY making more.

2 lbs a light.
2 lights.
4 pounds.
5 grand a pound.
20K a run.

Don't do it if you can't DO IT.

Sorry for being off topic. Just smoked, saw this...

Damn Art. Being a bit harsh aren't ya? That must be some serious "give ya rage" weed you just smoked. Hope your not a drinker too.

Did ya ever stop to think that prices vary from region to region?

I'll swing by your room and take a peeksee and learn from a Master. I'm dying to see this"4 lbs of DANK worth 20k grown with only 2 lights" And being so good.........I bet your pulling those #s with 600 watters huh?
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[Big D]

Dude what is your idea of rich, millions? lmao) You would have to have a huge grow with lots of employees, to get what most people would consider rich. Show us what type of grow you have now. What kind of experience do you have?

Also the bigger the risk the greater the reward. In a state with harsher laws you can make more per pound. Ever 4000 a lb is chump change where I live.

If I sold and I don't, but if I did, I could sell a pound of premium for 6000g, let say of the top of my head it cost me 1600 to produce that pound, thats a profit of 4400. My man turns around and sells that pound by the ounce @ 600 per. He makes a profit of 3600. I make more.

The estimate of 1600 to produce is rough and would include my time.

What ever you decide, be careful!!

 

[movingtocally]

It's hilarious how in this day and age, with the internet as a info source available to virtually everyone, people still go nuts over purple weed.

average genetics on your hand? Wanna make some coin? Freeze the fuck out of your nutes the last few weeks of flower.

hehe.

 

[Big D]

Having purple weed is like having a 10 inch penis... you can really sling it!

 

[KillerDemo]

everyone thinks they can kingpin 1st 3 months of moving into cali...dont be floating ur bucks or plants around cuz u might just get stuck up...just being honest having lived here my whole life

 

[T.Baggins]

“All my life I’ve been taken in by get rich quick schemes, but this time I just know I’m going to get rich. And quick!” lol..... sorry man, LOCALS ONLY

 

[movingtocally]

Dude what is your idea of rich, millions? lmao) You would have to have a huge grow with lots of employees, to get what most people would consider rich. Show us what type of grow you have now. What kind of experience do you have?

Also the bigger the risk the greater the reward. In a state with harsher laws you can make more per pound. Ever 4000 a lb is chump change where I live.

If I sold and I don't, but if I did, I could sell a pound of premium for 6000g, let say of the top of my head it cost me 1600 to produce that pound, thats a profit of 4400. My man turns around and sells that pound by the ounce @ 600 per. He makes a profit of 3600. I make more.

The estimate of 1600 to produce is rough and would include my time.

What ever you decide, be careful!!

people pay 600 for an ounce of marijuana? What? Where?


I've never heard of such a thing, and I've been to some pretty dry places.

Man I've been out the street buying stuff for a while, apparently. I remember pounds of the best weed available was 3500, OZ's were 350 and halfs were 200. And that was way above the price range of most.

What general part of the nation are we talking about bro?

 

[sparkjumper]

I believe he's talking about California.I've heard an 1/8 ounce can go for 60-65 bucks and thats from a dispensary.I've always been a little taken aback about the prices out there.I think 6K an lb is a great price out there.They do pay an arm and a leg for electricity though.I never break 400 dollars using the better part of 4.8K where it would probably be closer to 1200 bucks in Cali.

 

[Big D]

people pay 600 for an ounce of marijuana? What? Where?

Yes. Yes they do.
For lets say "trainwreck" or "bubba", elite erb. I know its crazy hunh?

I am in the midwest, one of the republican states.

 

[BurmeseDragon]

Oh ya I remember what I wanted to say yesterday. I think this talk about getting rich growing weed is really a trade off between security and greed. Seems that most people would rather give the wholesale good deals to one or two trusted people....maybe more....than to charge top dollar and risk their security.

I would say you can't put a price on security, but it is worth a lot of money.

 

[JohnnyATL]

people pay 600 for an ounce of marijuana? What? Where?


I've never heard of such a thing, and I've been to some pretty dry places.

Man I've been out the street buying stuff for a while, apparently. I remember pounds of the best weed available was 3500, OZ's were 350 and halfs were 200. And that was way above the price range of most.

What general part of the nation are we talking about bro?

LMAO try to get someone to give you an O of some nice purps or kush for 350 around these parts.

like i said its like double cali prices on the east coast, and alot of other places

 

[Thundurkel]

Thats bull shit, SO MANY CLUBS IN SoCAL sell shit weed.
Thats the dumbest fucking fallacy I've heard in awhile.
All the weed that clubs sell are NOT "absolutely spectacular"
I'm sorry that's just retarded.

I must totally agree cuz at the club down the street from me they have this shit called Ewe Too and it's some crappy outdoor for 35 a 8th ... It is a fucking gold rush out here right now, it's weird since I just got my rec I had no clue it was SO easy and I got my shit free from having a Medicann Free Compassion card that came from a friends club. But SOOOOO many people are 215rs out here, when I was at Medicann I had a 2 old men and 1 old lady asking where they could purchase. If I was in it for the cash I could've got their numbers and sold them a oz a week for 200 each and get 2400 a month and thats better that I've ever got from a job except when I was in high class restaurant work so it's not as hard as people make it sound. It's not the wild west unless you're talking about how the DEA does things and the cartels are not running the pot scene out here. I've been up north many times I have family and friends there, the only people I've seen growing up there are white boys not mexicans!!!! DONT LISTEN TO THAT SHIT!!! I know dudes that would leave tortillas and salsa around just to fool LEO and sometimes those mexicans workers they find out there were hired by local farmers just like the guys you see at Home Depot waiting for work. Same mexicans not no cartel shit....

If you want to make a living off this, don't be greedy, do it for the right reasons not just the money. Give meds away as karma always comes around It's not easy but it's for surely not as hard as some make it sound. Don't deal with gangsters, not trying to be a dick but you fuckers ruin it for yourselves by trying to jack people when they are giving you a deal already!!! Everytime me or a friend has tried to do this it ends up all bad so stick with older folks and friends...