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Hi Dime, see ya on the new thread if not in chat.
Thanks Core, here's the link, come on over, gonna be a more chilled thread than this one, too many experiments etc in this one, gonna get back to basics for a bit
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2013004#post2013004 hope the link works
Thanks Core, here's the link, come on over, gonna be a more chilled thread than this one, too many experiments etc in this one, gonna get back to basics for a bit
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=2013004#post2013004 hope the link works
cannakid
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ive got california been bank master kush going now and was interested in nirvanas discription and how it difers from dutch passion. "Instantly the coffeeshops fell in love with this special new tetraploid." another discription from another site 'This plant has maintained a high quality and a good quantity, with a great taste. It flowers within 8 weeks, so makes an excellent choice. This plant is a tetraploide-kind, which means that it sometimes shows female flowers in the splitting of the internodes; which is unique.'
im wondering cause california bean bank sourced from some international retailer, nirvana is the most logical cause of its afordability but they master kush is way off from DP masterkush and white lable and all others. it seems it was re-named master kush, befor it was called high-rise. maby its a DP masterkush crossed with skunk? or is it a true kush at all, honistly i thought real kush was hundu and master kush was two dif hindu specimens crossed or hundu bx?
anyways ive got a california beanbank master kush sprout thats a triploid, one is a real deal mutant with only one leaf looking roundinsh liek ive and no visible 'node' to grow out from. that one could go eather way but this triploid is curoius.
any ideas what nirvana was trying to do breeding theas tetraploid strains, are they more sesptible to mutation or less known for stability (uniformity/truebreeding)
im wondering cause california bean bank sourced from some international retailer, nirvana is the most logical cause of its afordability but they master kush is way off from DP masterkush and white lable and all others. it seems it was re-named master kush, befor it was called high-rise. maby its a DP masterkush crossed with skunk? or is it a true kush at all, honistly i thought real kush was hundu and master kush was two dif hindu specimens crossed or hundu bx?
anyways ive got a california beanbank master kush sprout thats a triploid, one is a real deal mutant with only one leaf looking roundinsh liek ive and no visible 'node' to grow out from. that one could go eather way but this triploid is curoius.
any ideas what nirvana was trying to do breeding theas tetraploid strains, are they more sesptible to mutation or less known for stability (uniformity/truebreeding)
hanfiking
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Hey dude welcome back, are you lazily excited about the spring season?! another season to
let nature take its course and sit back and enjoy the show!
I had some problems with compost too and one of my purple widows and a purple star died
from it, but the others are powering through now, am germing two new purple stars.
Good luck with your gals!
let nature take its course and sit back and enjoy the show!
I had some problems with compost too and one of my purple widows and a purple star died
from it, but the others are powering through now, am germing two new purple stars.
Good luck with your gals!
here are a couple of pics of one i had come up from seed with 4 leaves per node will try and take a pic of it just gone into 12/12 sure hope its female the smell from it is crazy
Hey Hanf, thanks, even lazy excitement takes energy, I can just about manage marginal intrigue lol. Spring and Autumn really are the golden ages for inodor cultivation (for me anyway), temps are just right. I still need to pick up some decent compost, one with far less nutes added at a factory, but reduced waterings will reduce the nute levels available. Winter is so awkward (sp?) for buying compost. I hope your girls turn out well for ya Hanf. Even the best of us can make a simple mistake now and then, normally due to laziness.
Wow Shaun, that thing is freaky. I like it. What strain? Breeder? Any plans to breed it? I'm glad you dropped in with those photos, they fit perfectly into this thread. 3 of my above tris above started with 4 cottys but all reverted to tri appart from a couple that reverted to bifoliars. I've only ever had one that stayed a quad, and I couldn't clone that and didnt have any males around. It was years ago now, and I wish I had just bonsaied it to keep it around for breeding rather than just flowering it out. Just saying it may be worth re-thinking your plans with that, you may regret just flowering it out.
Wow Shaun, that thing is freaky. I like it. What strain? Breeder? Any plans to breed it? I'm glad you dropped in with those photos, they fit perfectly into this thread. 3 of my above tris above started with 4 cottys but all reverted to tri appart from a couple that reverted to bifoliars. I've only ever had one that stayed a quad, and I couldn't clone that and didnt have any males around. It was years ago now, and I wish I had just bonsaied it to keep it around for breeding rather than just flowering it out. Just saying it may be worth re-thinking your plans with that, you may regret just flowering it out.
here is another freak from the same seed batch which was some awsome bagseed from about 5 years ago 3 out of 5 have some sort of mutant trates will try and upload some new pics if i can find them this one came up normal but has split into 4 tops has not been tiped or Fimmed this one also has a pungent odor
I also have no male pollen but clones were taken from each will have to see if the same trates are passed on
Hi Shaun, any idea on lineage beyond bagseed? Also, cuttings prob wont display the same traits, but the traits will still be present in the gene pool. I suggest that you keep a clone of each , and get some more seeds in the ground and look for a male. Keep your clones and backcross the seeds that you produce back to the original clone, then start searching seeds and inbreeding from there. Post up any more pics you get of them.
here is the tri its hard to get a good pic of this one because it is so bushy veged for 6 weeks under 1000w mh
here is the one that topped itself very stange how the center stem has just divided in 4 directions
And to my dissapointment the quad looks like it has changed to normal growth after the changing of the globes to hps it has streched about 1.5 feet and the branches are now offset slightly
the linage could be ak-47 or wallyduck as the person i recieved it from was growing these strains for about a year
here is the one that topped itself very stange how the center stem has just divided in 4 directions
And to my dissapointment the quad looks like it has changed to normal growth after the changing of the globes to hps it has streched about 1.5 feet and the branches are now offset slightly
the linage could be ak-47 or wallyduck as the person i recieved it from was growing these strains for about a year
Hey GMT thanks for your input it would be nice if it was the ak as i have read a few good things about it i believe it is a good medical strain which is what i need, i will be taking pics weekly so i should be able to put up more pics as they come along got this thread tagged to show a fellow grower as he thinks it is just a mutant but now i can show him this and might be able to convince him that it can be gene determined he also told me he has some pollen from the Durban poison he grew outdoors the color of it is amazing.
I was veiwing your gallery and i would like to ask the pic Nov 05, the seed with two tails did it grow 2 plants i had one do this but only one plant survived the seed itself looked like it was 2 seeds joined.
Rep to you for your freak gallery
I was veiwing your gallery and i would like to ask the pic Nov 05, the seed with two tails did it grow 2 plants i had one do this but only one plant survived the seed itself looked like it was 2 seeds joined.
Rep to you for your freak gallery
I pulled a nice trifoliate out of a completely random bagseed last month as well... I topped it to encourage a couple nodes' worth of side branching - and each side branch exhibits a normal 2-leaf-per-node growth pattern so far. Growing a short 2-node plant with 6 colas over one with 4 is pretty cool though, and cuts down a little on veg time. Getting 3 nodes for 6 tops on a standard plant takes me a lot longer than this.
Good thing I topped it to clone, a sidebranch doesn't seem like it'd carry on the mutation.
There were multiple buds (most were purchased, not grown) in the jar when I found the seed at the bottom, so it could literally be from just about anything. Except crap. I don't buy crap.
-s
Good thing I topped it to clone, a sidebranch doesn't seem like it'd carry on the mutation.
There were multiple buds (most were purchased, not grown) in the jar when I found the seed at the bottom, so it could literally be from just about anything. Except crap. I don't buy crap.
-s
Hi Shaun, remind your freind that the first human was a mutant ape! It's all gene determined, unless your talking minerals. Cool news on the pollen front, but don't rely on it as these things can fail to turn up. Take the cuts. Yep two tails is one of several twins I got from that batch. Only ever had them from that one batch of seeds, but I had quite a few from it. I found that one was always weaker than the other, but other people have said their twins turned out fine, so it could just be the luck of the draw with them.
Hi Strain, Yeah, they all put out bifoliar side branching, although these side branches can develop into trifoliar branches later on but that's actually quite unusual. I've found that the central stem still showing the trifoliar trait when cloned and used to breed with, doesn't pass on the genes to any more offsrping that one of the bifoliar sidebranches would if that was cloned and bred. Or rather any part of the plant is equally succesful at passing on the trait within the genes. There are all sorts of ways to grow tri's, most generate benefits over normal plants I think, but many disagree.
Hi Strain, Yeah, they all put out bifoliar side branching, although these side branches can develop into trifoliar branches later on but that's actually quite unusual. I've found that the central stem still showing the trifoliar trait when cloned and used to breed with, doesn't pass on the genes to any more offsrping that one of the bifoliar sidebranches would if that was cloned and bred. Or rather any part of the plant is equally succesful at passing on the trait within the genes. There are all sorts of ways to grow tri's, most generate benefits over normal plants I think, but many disagree.
Interesting, GMT. I'll have to keep an eye on the side branches and see if any go back 3's on me. As for "passing on the mutation," I meant as a mother to clones and not necessarily in breeding. Guess that could have been more clear.
For all I know it's a daddy anyway, at this point. As soon as the top takes, we're going to find out.
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For all I know it's a daddy anyway, at this point. As soon as the top takes, we're going to find out.
-s
quick update on how the ill little ones are doing. Ill due to inapropriate compost, but I'm hoping they'll be ok. Please forgive the terrible photos, but I couldn't be bothered to get the tripod out or retake em. They dont look too bad smaller, but how do you make em medium sized these days? This new gallery is a little too complicated for me yet. full shot
One of the quads that reverted to a tri, has put out a quad side branch, so depending on how that goes, the rest of the plant may be removed to make this branch the central cola for seeding.
I've topped them all with the compost being too hot, as this will help to make greater demands for food which should help to let them cope with the hot compost.
One of the tris that reverted to a bi, is being multi topped, to provide plenty of smoke for me when the others are harvesting mainly seeds, this is assuming that its a girl, if it isn't it wont survive past sexing.
One of the quads that reverted to a tri, has put out a quad side branch, so depending on how that goes, the rest of the plant may be removed to make this branch the central cola for seeding.
I've topped them all with the compost being too hot, as this will help to make greater demands for food which should help to let them cope with the hot compost.
One of the tris that reverted to a bi, is being multi topped, to provide plenty of smoke for me when the others are harvesting mainly seeds, this is assuming that its a girl, if it isn't it wont survive past sexing.
My trifoliate adventure came to an abrupt end last night... 4 days of 12/12 and it had balls popping up everywhere... not a hair in sight. It never did develop a smell, in fact the three-node characteristic up the main stem was really its only distinguishing one.
Too bad. We roll the dice, sometimes it be 6, sometimes it be 1. Glad yours is looking a little more promising than mine!
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Too bad. We roll the dice, sometimes it be 6, sometimes it be 1. Glad yours is looking a little more promising than mine!
-s
hi there all, sorry to hear about the boy Strainbrain i also had one of my tris last week trow a couple of male flowers its about 2-3 weeks into flower white hairs allover then a ball on one side branch and another 2 nodes down i want to save it so i have got some budwise blast we will see if it does what it states (male flower knockdown ) i think it has hermed because of some heat stress in week 3 and 4 of veg.
Hey GMT if i were to leave the hermy to grow out will the seed produced likely to be hermy and would it show the tri growth, and i was recently told that the tri and quad plant are more likely to be male or hermy i thought you would be the best person to ask because you have run them a few times ,have you found this to be true
Hey GMT if i were to leave the hermy to grow out will the seed produced likely to be hermy and would it show the tri growth, and i was recently told that the tri and quad plant are more likely to be male or hermy i thought you would be the best person to ask because you have run them a few times ,have you found this to be true
