Dutch Master Gold

[stoney419]

Sounds great toohigh monkey made me a feed chart once for an 3 part and it was in ppms but with the amounts it will give me a good start thanks agin
And that carguy I've been adding the pure flowers just like fred said and am very impressed but I add the nutes for week 3 which was 1200ml to a 70gal res and the was scary high 1800ppms 3.6 or 3.8 ec but well see how the look tomorrow

 

[mikecar312]

stoney - 1200mls of each gold a+b or 600ml of each? did you added the pure flowers at 70mls (1ml/gal)?

 

[stoney419]

stoney - 1200mls of each gold a+b or 600ml of each? did you added the pure flowers at 70mls (1ml/gal)?

1200 each max bloom at 265 ml silica at 133 ml and zone at 60 ml sm90 150 ml and pure flowers at 60 ml thats it it was 1800 ppm i think it was 3.8 ec or 3.6 not sure on that

 

[stoney419]

it was 3.6 but droped a little to day but things looked real good

 

[thecarguy]

I think that Zone and SM90 serve the same purpose (anti-bacterial/fungicide), you'd probably be safe just running the Zone if you wanted. Let's see some pics of plants at 3.5! I love taking my plants that high and not seeing any burn. DM craziness.

 

[shiva das]

I just bought 5 lt. bottles of gold. After looking at the smaller liter bottle and the 5ltr. bottle they aren't the same. Did DM change the formula?/
The liter bottle says 5-5.3-12.8

5 ltr. says-- 4-3-9

The 5ltr. bottle is written gold range, while the liter bottle says GOLD. Is this stuf the same thing? How can 3 for Phospersous be right, seems really low.
Haven't gotten my pure flowers yet, hopefully but the end of the week. Which will be the beginning of te 4th week.

any thoughts?

shiva das

 

[stoney419]

I think that Zone and SM90 serve the same purpose (anti-bacterial/fungicide), you'd probably be safe just running the Zone if you wanted. Let's see some pics of plants at 3.5! I love taking my plants that high and not seeing any burn. DM craziness.

I kept the sm90 because it says multi purpous wetting agent on the front of the bottle altho I have heard about using dish soap as a wetting agent but wasn't sure wich one was safe

 

[thecarguy]

Stoney- That's a valid reason to keep the SM90, but really, you could try the new Penetrator Gold, as its supposed to be the hottest wetting agent out right now.

Shiva- DM has not changed the formula; DM has changed their bottle type, their graphics and how precisely they indicate their NPK (now they round)

 

[shiva das]

thanks thecarguy,
I got answer from the company about it.

 

[mikecar312]

Stoney- That's a valid reason to keep the SM90, but really, you could try the new Penetrator Gold, as its supposed to be the hottest wetting agent out right now.

what exactly is so special about penetrator gold? penetrator seemed expensive enough at a rate of 60ml/L, now gold adds a few more dollars to the price tag. every other wetting agent i've tried uses about 1-2ml/L. will liquid light not work with other wetting agents because they are missing an ingredient only found in penetrator? maybe i'm missing some info on what separates penetrator from the rest.

 

[stoney419]

i hanent seen the gold penetrator but the penetrator i just pick up says new but didn't see gold on the label any where and i don't belive it's a wetting agent it's made to penetrat in to the leaves and never thought about adding it to the res but i could be wrong i am listening

 

[One Love 731]

Would it be a good Idea to add penatrator gold to rez in order to get nutes into hydroten? How far should I have a 1000mh when spraying liquid light / gold penatrator? thus far my girls are loving the dutch masters.

 

[One Love 731]

Has anybody here tried dutch master APS or replicator for cloning?

 

[Seed Buyer]

The APS is awesome for cuttings in wool, eliminates the need to "prep" the wool. I called DM and asked them about the Pen gold. They said test plants took in 60% more nutes than w/ original pentrator. I have a 5L of the gold and am seeing awesome results thus far.

 

[Capn]

ADD27 is due out in the states in April, but its been out in France and Australia for a little while. I wonder if any of our Australian users can chime in and pitch us their 2cents?

 

[One Love 731]

ADD27 is due out in the states in April, but its been out in France and Australia for a little while. I wonder if any of our Australian users can chime in and pitch us their 2cents?

TANK ADDITIVE:
ADD.27

Available in:
Grow, Flower
1 Litre, 5 Litres

• 
  [*] The Worlds First Specialised Nutrient Activator!
  [*] Improves Your Nutrients Performance By Up To 1/3 More!
  [*] Clinically Proven And Field Tested With Crazy Results!
  [*] Assists In Relieving Plant Stress Better Than MAX!
  [*] Works With All Nutrients, In All Systems And All Mediums!

It’s what every grower has been waiting his whole life for and now it’s finally here, the newest and most exciting addition to our revolutionary stable of GOLD high performance products – ADD.27 !
THE NEXT GENERATION TANK ADDITIVE!
ADD.27 is unlike any mineral based additive you have ever used before! ADD.27 is the world’s first mineral and Amino Acid based additive that optimizes your nutrient and ADD’s dramatically - TO ITS PERFORMANCE!
Feeding your plants regular mineral based fertilizers is a hit and miss affair. Rarely, if at all, do these mineral based fertilizers even deliver close to 100% of their true potential. ADD.27 is designed to take your regular mineral fertilizer and, through our special protein based chelating technology, deliver a more effective and powerful mineral nutrition, via optimised Cytoplasmic Streaming, exactly at the time it is needed – unlocking your nutrients real power and ADDing power to your results.
ADD.27 adds power to your regular nutrient or mineral based supplements by optimizing the rate of Cytoplasmic Streaming. Put simply, the Cytoplasmic Stream is like a conveyor belt within the plant that delivers all the minerals, enzymes, co-factors etc that the plant requires to grow and develop, right into the cell. Quite often though, this conveyor belt is slow and un-optimized resulting in very average results. Optimized Cytoplasmic Streaming allows your nutrients and additives to perform at 100% of their intended performance - delivering to you, your plants full genetic potential! ADD.27 is your best bet in providing the specialised mineral nutrition and phyto nutrients your plants need to assist in stress relief. Unwanted plant stress can cause a big reduction in yield and can come from a variety of sources, excess heat or humidity, over feeding etc. Help your plants against this unwanted stress with ADD.27. Recent clinical trials showed ADD.27 to be better at assisting your plants against stress than MAX – our premium product for assisting in stress relief! What a great all round product! As the name says – ADD.27 !


USAGE INSTRUCTIONS:
For best results, use the online Nutrient Calculator for an individualized interactive feeding program to suit your needs.
To use ADD.27, simply follow these easy guidelines!

1. 
   [*]Mix up your nutrient first. Do not adjust pH at this stage.
   [*]Pour ADD.27 Grow or Flower, according to your stage of growth, in the tank or reservoir at the recommended rate of 3 ml per litre / 1 tablespoon per gallon of final tank volume / size.
   [*]Add any other additives such as ZONE or SILICA after ADD.27 and top tank up to final level.
   [*]Check and adjust final nutrient strength using a TDS (PPM or EC) meter.
   [*]Check and adjust pH.
   [*]Your nutrient is now supercharged and ready to go!

MSDS SAFETY​

FAQ'S​

TANK ADDITIVE:
ADD.27

Available in:
Grow, Flower
1 Litre, 5 Litres

• 
  [*] The Worlds First Specialised Nutrient Activator!
  [*] Improves Your Nutrients Performance By Up To 1/3 More!
  [*] Clinically Proven And Field Tested With Crazy Results!
  [*] Assists In Relieving Plant Stress Better Than MAX!
  [*] Works With All Nutrients, In All Systems And All Mediums!

It’s what every grower has been waiting his whole life for and now it’s finally here, the newest and most exciting addition to our revolutionary stable of GOLD high performance products – ADD.27 !
THE NEXT GENERATION TANK ADDITIVE!
ADD.27 is unlike any mineral based additive you have ever used before! ADD.27 is the world’s first mineral and Amino Acid based additive that optimizes your nutrient and ADD’s dramatically - TO ITS PERFORMANCE!
Feeding your plants regular mineral based fertilizers is a hit and miss affair. Rarely, if at all, do these mineral based fertilizers even deliver close to 100% of their true potential. ADD.27 is designed to take your regular mineral fertilizer and, through our special protein based chelating technology, deliver a more effective and powerful mineral nutrition, via optimised Cytoplasmic Streaming, exactly at the time it is needed – unlocking your nutrients real power and ADDing power to your results.
ADD.27 adds power to your regular nutrient or mineral based supplements by optimizing the rate of Cytoplasmic Streaming. Put simply, the Cytoplasmic Stream is like a conveyor belt within the plant that delivers all the minerals, enzymes, co-factors etc that the plant requires to grow and develop, right into the cell. Quite often though, this conveyor belt is slow and un-optimized resulting in very average results. Optimized Cytoplasmic Streaming allows your nutrients and additives to perform at 100% of their intended performance - delivering to you, your plants full genetic potential! ADD.27 is your best bet in providing the specialised mineral nutrition and phyto nutrients your plants need to assist in stress relief. Unwanted plant stress can cause a big reduction in yield and can come from a variety of sources, excess heat or humidity, over feeding etc. Help your plants against this unwanted stress with ADD.27. Recent clinical trials showed ADD.27 to be better at assisting your plants against stress than MAX – our premium product for assisting in stress relief! What a great all round product! As the name says – ADD.27 !


USAGE INSTRUCTIONS:
For best results, use the online Nutrient Calculator for an individualized interactive feeding program to suit your needs.
To use ADD.27, simply follow these easy guidelines!

1. 
   [*]Mix up your nutrient first. Do not adjust pH at this stage.
   [*]Pour ADD.27 Grow or Flower, according to your stage of growth, in the tank or reservoir at the recommended rate of 3 ml per litre / 1 tablespoon per gallon of final tank volume / size.
   [*]Add any other additives such as ZONE or SILICA after ADD.27 and top tank up to final level.
   [*]Check and adjust final nutrient strength using a TDS (PPM or EC) meter.
   [*]Check and adjust pH.
   [*]Your nutrient is now supercharged and ready to go!

Although You've probably already read this info from the dutch master site, this is for those that haven't. Basically it seems to make your nutrients more readily available to your plants. I as well would like to here from someone who has used it.


http://www.icmag.com/ic/?language=english&page=links_to_us

 

[One Love 731]

Phosphoload
http://www.progressive-growth.com/proddetail.php?prod=22052&cat=24
Has anyone used this? It is marketed by Dutch Master as a replacement for super bud. Does it contain the same carcinogens?

 

[Capn]

All very interesting info. Can't wait to get my hands on some.

 

[thecarguy]

To answer One Love-

Yes, Phosphoload contains Paclobutrazol.

 

[Capn]

yuk, no thanks on that paclobutrazol.