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stoney419

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How'd that BushMaster work for ya Stoney?

Any side effects?
I messed up and didn't cut the ferts down like u said I spaced it untill I seen them looking burnt not to bad though but I was talking to a guy at the hydro store and he said there is some teriable stuff in bush master he said he would sell it to me but didn't want to after he found out what is in it but it stoped the strech
 

79towncar

Member
Stone quick question. You said in your other thread that you veg in your EZcloner. I think you said for about 30 days also. I was just wondering how you feed your plants during that period? Like how high are your ppms? What kind of nutes you use? Also any tips?
 

stoney419

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Ok first off these sours were put in rapid rooters for 2 weeks then put on a table and veged for 2 weeks and the side that got the bush master was cloned the ohther 2 got planted then they all veged for 2 weeks and fliped to 12 on 12 off now I got all the clonesi took off the first 2 tables veging for 2 weeks be for flip
when I cut put them in the EZ cloners just give plain water out the tap timmer set 15 min on 15 off there under t12 floros then when they get roots 2 weeks I take the lid off and move it to the top cloner which is lit by 4 t5 bulbs add Dutch mater gold by their nute calc. For 15 gal.
 
Stoney:You mentioned a while back you were looking for feedback on DM Nutes
I'm on my fourth run with the DM gold in bags of Promix. I also use the Liquid Light. The first run, I had some leftover KoolBloom and Fulvic acid that I used. Yields were about 30% better than GH 3part. The second run I went strictly with the DM reccomendations. Yields went down about 10-15%. On the third and fourth runs I have added Pure Flowers at 1ml./gal. Yields are back up. I think I'm also going to bring back the Fulvic.
I think the DM line has delivered on all the hype. I balked at the cost at first, but I'm glad I switched.
I'm moving into a new house next week and I think I'm going to switch to a table setup like yours. I have the luxury of time, so I hope I can build a room as sano as yours or Yamaha's. Wish me luck.
Fred
 
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79towncar

Member
Good system stone. I seen the pics in you other SOG grow of your clone setup and it looked really professional. Thanks for the speedy reply. take it easy.
 

stoney419

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well fred i am wondering where to get pure flowers at do ya have a link
and i like the tables you will probly will also
 

Che

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Hey stoney, great show. Just a word, from what I've read from those with experience with the BushMaster, is that 1mL per Gallon is the rate you want to use, and flush well after giving them that for 36 hours. Wait a week at least before (slowly) re-introducing the nutes.:2cents:
 
Stoney: Pure Flowers should be at you're local hydro store. I read about it in last years High Times hydro edition rehash. It's made from phosphites instead of phosphates @ a ratio of 0-30-20. It's supposed to have easier and faster uptake of p&k as well as immune system boosters. While I don't understand the mechanics, it certainly made an impact on my crop. I googled "pure flowers nutrients" and a zillion outlets came up, so it should'nt be too hard to find.
 

stoney419

Member
Thanks man I googled pure flowers before I asked left out the nutrients part and the only thing that came up was places that sell flowers LOL but I'll try it agin with the nutrients this time thanks agin
 

jtk707

Member
Are your plants still showing sighns of the bush masters incedent , i have used it with out a prob , but i use about quarter nutes when i use gravity and pmax , and no nutes with bushmasters untill after a flush any way cant wait for an update good luck and times to you peace:joint:
 

stoney419

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pics

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found some pure flowers added it tonight here is a few pics
 

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One Love 731

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Stony I've been reading now for about a year. Your threads are an inspiration. looking at thee old O.G. grow faq 10k had a similar system but used 4x4x4 rockwool achieving more plants pr square foot. What pros and cons do you see with hydroten in 5 1/2 x 5 1/2 containers compared to rockwool? also if you could start over (I See you've used both) would you use the black 4x8 trays or the larger botanicare white trays? and whats your opinion on a ebb and flow bucket system utilizing hydroten for mom's? thanks in advance for all you do. It's people like you that facilitate change in the very best way, by actively helping the universe let it happen.
 
Stoney:
Can you post some details on the specs of your room. I'm particularly interested inthe ventilation. Room and hoods. If you've posted this before, I'll goback and read for the fourth time.:bashhead:
 

stoney419

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Stoney:
Can you post some details on the specs of your room. I'm particularly interested inthe ventilation. Room and hoods. If you've posted this before, I'll goback and read for the fourth time.:bashhead:
ok fred here ya go the flowering room is 18 ft X10 ft 5 inches wide
i have a two 6" inch inline vortex fans mounted in attic one for each side it starts comeing out of the floor and ends going up in to the attic
the mom room is 13 ft X 10 5" wide (wich is flower room 2 right now)
then i have what i call a light lock so when i open the door it dont light up the hood lol it's 5ft 5" wide X 24" deep then i have clone shelfs built in the other 5 ft
i have a 2 6" vortex fans in the wall going flower to mom room
i have a 3.4 ton ac package unit but if i had it to do over i would just use 2 or 3 of them ac units that stand up in the room and run the vents through the lights and make sure you insaulte the plastic vent comeing off the AC it helps a lot


one love it depends on the room you have to work with on the whte or the black if you have plenty of room i say the white
the bad thing is hydroton has to be watered more then most mediums
 

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