Project EDEN - the COCO-COOP
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bonecarver_OG
imm looking forward to the harvest 
hehe gonna be FUN FUN FUN
hehe gonna be FUN FUN FUN
RealSupreme
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when comes to the harvest is always one wonderful moment and you deserve the fruits that you reap.. happy harvest bro
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bonecarver_OG
all new clones are looking good. im just waiting for the one old ssh x ptk clone to root and then i will spread out the clones all i can so they get more light.
the snowdawg clones is looking really healthy and its slowly starting to veg. in a few days it will start properly..
i seriously need to plan out some measures of improvement in the veg area. i think i will be using it as is for a while more untill i got the things well thought out. i want to organize plants by size, and also i think i can expand some areas a bit by moving lights from one space to an other. also i need to sort out the electrical instalation. some day i will take care of putting plaster on the walls, and cement on the floor....
i moved around plants in the flowering room to get shorter plants to be closer to the light and the center of the room. also i put some things under a few plants to lift them up - to make sure more light gets to the center of the plants. all in all it was a questiong of getting the indica dominant in the center, and the sativas along the walls. i realize i planted too many sativas hehe
and its quite full in there. but its not a problem since they grow in a quite open way and let thru quite a bit of light. even though i make sure they are along the walls so they dont shade shorter plants.the diva-G x LP is a lot less stretchy than i thought and next round i will most likelly veg maybe a bit more, or use smaller pots.
plants that have gotten a bit of trouble for recieving flowering nutes a bit too early, have recied a ligth dose of nutes.
the alibis are just marvelous looking.
the small ecsd x ogk are starting to get resin. and i dont think they will stretch that much more.
the jamaicans are looking good - the negril strain is going to be slower than the beeniemans i think, this far the beeniemans look the best though.
the CT x PTK are both fattening up..
times of waiting..
peace!
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bonecarver_OG
i pretty much got only one ssh x lp male i trust will flower well, and it will get the pollen collected. the male that is the one that is flowering best has a few positive abilities;
* its got a lot more stretch from the sativa dom cross SSH x LP
* its seems unrelactant to give up flowering although there is not a lot of light and the room is cold - its a sturdy mofo! resistant is good.
the female ssh x ptk i got flowering looks really promising, and its structure and vigour would be nice to have in veg in a cross with the ssh x ptk keeper. since the mom and dad both have the same SSH, i presume there should be more phenos similar to the SSH.
later when i plant more and get more males i will look into them as well. i think i got a few more seeds left of the ssh x lp...
im convinced this and a future ssh/ptk x ptk male or two will be good canditates for bringing onwards the ssh x ptk's abilities with luck.
an other plan after talking to Marijuanaut - the maker of the alibi f4's, is to cross an alibi male to the ssh x ptk keeper also. the alibi is one of the most resinous strains i have seen, and it would be interesting to see if an offspring of two very resinous and productive strains get even better.
i transplanted today one more well grown SSH x PTK keeper clone to a bigger pot to use her aswell in the coming flowering. if all of the transplanted ones grow well i will have 6-7 big clones for flowering in adition to the huge moms and the vegging females. it is not very likelly any of the seedlings will grow quick enough to get flowered since i want them around 40-60 cm tall before flowering, or equalent of about 2 months of veg. i really hope there is some bigger ones i can flower to make space for the cloesn and seedlings.. because if all the clones (the last aditions) and seedlings need to veg for 3 months more or so - it will be very tight of space..
so most likelly as soon as they are big enough i will start to sex them in one of the fluoro spaces. in that lot im only really interested in using one or two males of the ssh/ptk x ptk. the rest of the males would be wildcards since they lost the tags, and im not too sure about using unknown dads. if a really good lookin male plant comes out of the lot i will reconsider everything hehe anything is worth a test!
man im a disaster - yesterdays check on my calendar showed my day count was off by one week - this is important for the flowering nutes.. im lucky i didnt burn any plants with the PK. i actually only at day 29.. i thought i was at D 36.. in other words i got a lot more to expect from the flowering plants its very early still!
peace!
* its got a lot more stretch from the sativa dom cross SSH x LP
* its seems unrelactant to give up flowering although there is not a lot of light and the room is cold - its a sturdy mofo! resistant is good.
the female ssh x ptk i got flowering looks really promising, and its structure and vigour would be nice to have in veg in a cross with the ssh x ptk keeper. since the mom and dad both have the same SSH, i presume there should be more phenos similar to the SSH.
later when i plant more and get more males i will look into them as well. i think i got a few more seeds left of the ssh x lp...
im convinced this and a future ssh/ptk x ptk male or two will be good canditates for bringing onwards the ssh x ptk's abilities with luck.
an other plan after talking to Marijuanaut - the maker of the alibi f4's, is to cross an alibi male to the ssh x ptk keeper also. the alibi is one of the most resinous strains i have seen, and it would be interesting to see if an offspring of two very resinous and productive strains get even better.
i transplanted today one more well grown SSH x PTK keeper clone to a bigger pot to use her aswell in the coming flowering. if all of the transplanted ones grow well i will have 6-7 big clones for flowering in adition to the huge moms and the vegging females. it is not very likelly any of the seedlings will grow quick enough to get flowered since i want them around 40-60 cm tall before flowering, or equalent of about 2 months of veg. i really hope there is some bigger ones i can flower to make space for the cloesn and seedlings.. because if all the clones (the last aditions) and seedlings need to veg for 3 months more or so - it will be very tight of space..
so most likelly as soon as they are big enough i will start to sex them in one of the fluoro spaces. in that lot im only really interested in using one or two males of the ssh/ptk x ptk. the rest of the males would be wildcards since they lost the tags, and im not too sure about using unknown dads. if a really good lookin male plant comes out of the lot i will reconsider everything hehe
anything is worth a test!man im a disaster - yesterdays check on my calendar showed my day count was off by one week - this is important for the flowering nutes.. im lucky i didnt burn any plants with the PK. i actually only at day 29.. i thought i was at D 36.. in other words i got a lot more to expect from the flowering plants
its very early still!peace!
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bonecarver_OG
the skunk ibl is for some un-understandable reason a bit musty looking. its strange. i really hope it makes it thru - atleast a few clones. the rest look like recently cut, but the skunk is getting yellowing and its loosing the humidity in the leafs, its actually drying, and thats a new problem to me - it honestly looks like its not recieving humidity. ill keep trying to give em a bit of special care. im not giving up on them. i cut away some of the leaf, and i misted them a little bit. i dont like spraying the plants normally when cloning but this seemed like an emergency calling for it.
the strangest part i think, is the fact the rest look so well.
peace!
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bonecarver_OG
i took out 2 clones of the skunk and i had a closer look at the stem in the rockwool plug.. it had gone bad.. so i cut of the bad pieces and gave em a misting and hopeing for the best.
the rest look really good and should be starting to pop roots in any moment.
so exited about em all
i feel my flowering-room needs more light.. maybe for next winter it will be possible. also im thinking of light movers, but im not really sure. maybe the space i got is not big enough for light movers.. with 2 x 600W im sure it would a great difference. doubling the light means with no doubt fatter nugs for harvesting. more smoke
but yeah,, they are talking about rising electricity 150%... sounds like its time to start planning an greenhouse instead lol
peace
the rest look really good and should be starting to pop roots in any moment.
so exited about em all
i feel my flowering-room needs more light.. maybe for next winter it will be possible. also im thinking of light movers, but im not really sure. maybe the space i got is not big enough for light movers.. with 2 x 600W im sure it would a great difference. doubling the light means with no doubt fatter nugs for harvesting. more smoke
but yeah,, they are talking about rising electricity 150%... sounds like its time to start planning an greenhouse instead lol
peace
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bonecarver_OG
cant build a greenhouse untill i sorted out a few things - got it all more or less prepared - BUT ! the greenhouse was meant for veggies because of the big theft risk for MJ plants.
risky stuff
risky stuff
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bonecarver_OG
honestly i have been thinking about some kind ogreenhouse for several years, something atached to the house, and with only entrance from inside the house. something that would look like a glassed-in terrase. i have allready checked prices for materials and such when time comes i will build it, but i got a lot of things to do before...
the other greenhouse we have allready, but we havent covered it with plastic and we are not really using it yet - but that one will be for some massive veggie grows in recycled coco anything must turn out nice with the sun we got here and nute loaded soil mix
todays activity in the growroom.. ;
i emptied and cleaned all trays a bit.. also i took away the floor planks i had in one of the veg-spaces.. the problem is the nute mix and darkness gave fungus.. so i took out the wood and im now using the concrete floor witht he trays on top. it works perfectly, supose only there is going to be a bit colder roots..
the clones.. well the skunk is looking a bitscruffy but all the rest look awesome and me and the coop partner are allready talking about the amnesia haze its going to be a blast to give it a shot in the future outdoors here.. hehe yeah man.. the amnesia haze, the jack flash "jaggen", the SSD and the snowdawg are all going for it.. the snowdawg has allready a few roots showing in the new pot i transplanted it into - and soon it will start growing like crazy
its going to be a nice mom
well today i made a few decisions related to the grow.. i will buy the second light. no way around it.. i have set as a goal next winter, but i might get it earlier. the thing is if i put a long goal, my gf doesnt get scetchy hehe - and if time aloves and i get a good offer i can allways say i was going to buy it anyway.
i also decided for cutting down on the veg area. i have to make a better solution for it. im now using a hell of a lot of watts to keep veggin the females.. but in the future i think i have to aim for just MOMS and clones, and a few occasional seedlings etc for tests. but the times of planting massive numbers of seeds will be over.. atleast untill we have a suitable outdoor spot in the coop. we have our aims with the keeper and to re produce her in the best of manners.. and this will be where we will put the mayority of our efforts.
the problem lays mainly in the costs of indoor growing,.. its a huge risk to plant this many seeds at a time, and its far better to dedicate for example one 1/4 of the flowering room for new varieties and tests, and the rest will be clones of the keepers. with 2x 600 the room will be much more suitable for clones in SOG in the middle - and taller plants on the sides.
i think i will look into using trays filled with coco for the clones.. but i wont go to far ahead in the plans.. so i will wait..
at the moment i think in the flowering room things are looking good.
its obvious the plants performing well in low light conditions will perform even better with higher light intensity.
i think the BIG alibi and the small SSH x PTK have allready shown that they are keepers - atleast for further studies. the resin amount and the vigor are the deciding factor. in a few weeks time i will reveg them. i will do it fairly early to make sure the propabilities are higher for reveg.
the 2 big SSH x ptk are most likelly interesting for revegging also - same goes with the ssh x lp. also one of then most interesting looking sativas i had in a while is the Diva-G x LP and i think the more productive pheno might go to reveg too.
the rest i have to look more into, but it seems likelly i will reveg one of the beeniemans, and one of the ctxptk's.
the male ssh x lp is getting ready to donate pollen.. ill take the time and effort to bring out the ssh x ptk keeper from the flowering room, and polinate a few lower nugs...
when time comes i will build it, but i got a lot of things to do before... the other greenhouse we have allready, but we havent covered it with plastic and we are not really using it yet - but that one will be for some massive veggie grows in recycled coco
anything must turn out nice with the sun we got here and nute loaded soil mix todays activity in the growroom.. ;
i emptied and cleaned all trays a bit.. also i took away the floor planks i had in one of the veg-spaces.. the problem is the nute mix and darkness gave fungus.. so i took out the wood and im now using the concrete floor witht he trays on top. it works perfectly, supose only there is going to be a bit colder roots..
the clones.. well the skunk is looking a bitscruffy
but all the rest look awesome and me and the coop partner are allready talking about the amnesia haze its going to be a blast to give it a shot in the future outdoors here.. hehe yeah man.. the amnesia haze, the jack flash "jaggen", the SSD and the snowdawg are all going for it.. the snowdawg has allready a few roots showing in the new pot i transplanted it into - and soon it will start growing like crazy its going to be a nice mom
well today i made a few decisions related to the grow.. i will buy the second light. no way around it.. i have set as a goal next winter, but i might get it earlier. the thing is if i put a long goal, my gf doesnt get scetchy hehe - and if time aloves and i get a good offer i can allways say i was going to buy it anyway.
i also decided for cutting down on the veg area. i have to make a better solution for it. im now using a hell of a lot of watts to keep veggin the females.. but in the future i think i have to aim for just MOMS and clones, and a few occasional seedlings etc for tests. but the times of planting massive numbers of seeds will be over.. atleast untill we have a suitable outdoor spot in the coop. we have our aims with the keeper and to re produce her in the best of manners.. and this will be where we will put the mayority of our efforts.
the problem lays mainly in the costs of indoor growing,.. its a huge risk to plant this many seeds at a time, and its far better to dedicate for example one 1/4 of the flowering room for new varieties and tests, and the rest will be clones of the keepers. with 2x 600 the room will be much more suitable for clones in SOG in the middle - and taller plants on the sides.
i think i will look into using trays filled with coco for the clones.. but i wont go to far ahead in the plans.. so i will wait..
at the moment i think in the flowering room things are looking good.
its obvious the plants performing well in low light conditions will perform even better with higher light intensity.
i think the BIG alibi and the small SSH x PTK have allready shown that they are keepers - atleast for further studies. the resin amount and the vigor are the deciding factor. in a few weeks time i will reveg them. i will do it fairly early to make sure the propabilities are higher for reveg.
the 2 big SSH x ptk are most likelly interesting for revegging also - same goes with the ssh x lp. also one of then most interesting looking sativas i had in a while is the Diva-G x LP and i think the more productive pheno might go to reveg too.
the rest i have to look more into, but it seems likelly i will reveg one of the beeniemans, and one of the ctxptk's.
the male ssh x lp is getting ready to donate pollen.. ill take the time and effort to bring out the ssh x ptk keeper from the flowering room, and polinate a few lower nugs...
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bonecarver_OG
ok.. i think in the moment i put in the next plants to flower - i will rebuild the veg part and ad one more 600W to the flowering room.
the veg room will be modified to house moms and clones, basicly i will make shelfs for vegging the clones to be able to put clones to flower at about 20-30 cm heigth maximum.
the goal is to not to veg plants excessivelly, but to rather have the system based on smaller clones in SOG, and have aditional bigger plants around them.
i think i can easy fit about 30 smaller clones growing them single cola style, and have maybe up to 8-10 bigger plants at some moments.
to get the system to work as a perpetual floewring setup is quite a task indeed.. many things i see i have planned badly or misstaken in my way of thought.. i think i will limit the veg part to around 500W maximum or even less.
i see things a bit more clearly..
hehe thanks hazeventura for those nice pics in you gallery - it has inspired me to change my style..
this year is showing to be a year of giving up on older methods and embracing new knowledge with no fear.
the veg room will be modified to house moms and clones, basicly i will make shelfs for vegging the clones to be able to put clones to flower at about 20-30 cm heigth maximum.
the goal is to not to veg plants excessivelly, but to rather have the system based on smaller clones in SOG, and have aditional bigger plants around them.
i think i can easy fit about 30 smaller clones growing them single cola style, and have maybe up to 8-10 bigger plants at some moments.
to get the system to work as a perpetual floewring setup is quite a task indeed.. many things i see i have planned badly or misstaken in my way of thought.. i think i will limit the veg part to around 500W maximum or even less.
i see things a bit more clearly..
hehe thanks hazeventura for those nice pics in you gallery - it has inspired me to change my style..
this year is showing to be a year of giving up on older methods and embracing new knowledge with no fear.
HazeVentura
Member
bonecarver_OG said:the clones.. well the skunk is looking a bitscruffy
sadly that the skunk is so bitchy.....maybe she makes it....
I'm happy to hear, the rest is doing fine....jejjejeje the amnesia will make you crazy.....
bonecarver_OG said:
wow, that's a lot of honor for me....... thanks bro.....
peace HV
I think given the massive caretaking work you must carry on it's logical to be constantly evolving your methods!
I wonder, I noticed seeds starting in coco seems to be sufferring a little. As I told you my tap water EC is low (0.2) and I use Atami B'Cuzz A+B. For seedlings I feed with A+B @ EC 0.5-0.8 but they seems to suffer a little at the beggining, with some clorosis spots on their first leaves, some slight yellowing on new leaves, but on their 2nd-3d week they start to develop healthy and green.
Do you sprout in pure coco? how do you feed from seed? it could be a Cal/Mag def?
Also, do you top, LST, or supercrop?
I wonder, I noticed seeds starting in coco seems to be sufferring a little. As I told you my tap water EC is low (0.2) and I use Atami B'Cuzz A+B. For seedlings I feed with A+B @ EC 0.5-0.8 but they seems to suffer a little at the beggining, with some clorosis spots on their first leaves, some slight yellowing on new leaves, but on their 2nd-3d week they start to develop healthy and green.
Do you sprout in pure coco? how do you feed from seed? it could be a Cal/Mag def?
Also, do you top, LST, or supercrop?
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bonecarver_OG
hehe
yeah man i realize i gotto change things a bit
its just no point to veg a plant for 3 months to flower 10 of them under one 600W - if you know what i mean..
the bushes in veg are great looking but i know if i flower them as they are under the HPS it the setup i got now it will stretch a lot .. and then the harvest wont be that much anyway with the low light intensity.
in veg i got 6 BIG clones of SSH x PTK ready for flowering next round, also i got the 10 something confirmed females and clones there off..
all in all the plants to flower next round will get HUGE before flowering them. it will take several weeks more before i can put even one of them to flower. many of them i will have to flower in 25 liter pots, and a few in even bigger.
if my flowering room looks like a jungle now... im sure later it will be much more so
well i just gotto be pacient and wait untill the plants in veg are under controll - i mean when i have a number easier to move around and the setup will be easier...
but yeah i gotto have a more comercial kind of thinking in the setup to be able to cover my needs of bud. also flowering smaller plants/clones will give more compact nugs and less popcorn. im sure after all there will be enough material from the harvests for my jelly and BHO projects.
yeah man i realize i gotto change things a bit
its just no point to veg a plant for 3 months to flower 10 of them under one 600W - if you know what i mean..
the bushes in veg are great looking but i know if i flower them as they are under the HPS it the setup i got now it will stretch a lot .. and then the harvest wont be that much anyway with the low light intensity.
in veg i got 6 BIG clones of SSH x PTK ready for flowering next round, also i got the 10 something confirmed females and clones there off..
all in all the plants to flower next round will get HUGE before flowering them. it will take several weeks more before i can put even one of them to flower. many of them i will have to flower in 25 liter pots, and a few in even bigger.
if my flowering room looks like a jungle now... im sure later it will be much more so
well i just gotto be pacient and wait untill the plants in veg are under controll - i mean when i have a number easier to move around and the setup will be easier...
but yeah
i gotto have a more comercial kind of thinking in the setup to be able to cover my needs of bud. also flowering smaller plants/clones will give more compact nugs and less popcorn. im sure after all there will be enough material from the harvests for my jelly and BHO projects.
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bonecarver_OG
i do lst super crop and top - anything that fits for the moment. its usefull for keeping plants in vegs or moms under controll and to get a more even growth. in flowering i dont really do it too much. many times i let loose the strings i used to tie during veg, and let the plant stand up - to take less space. but this is only if the plant alovs it.
sometimes when i veg the plants to a candle holder look with lots of branching but no central cola - its best to prune the plants a lot before floewring them, and only let the biggest tips left. also cutting away undergrowth that the canopy covers is good. i think i wrote earlier that i only stray from this method with new plants - when i might have to reveg - then i let all lower branches left - to get a better start for the reveg.
seedlings - i start them of in rockwool plugs. i think it works great.. then when they have sprouted but before the taproot comes out of the plug, i transplant to coco. i dont use any nutes for the first week or so - its not really necesary - the SEED holds the necesary energi for the plants first life as long as it gets humidity. when the first few pairs of leafs start getting out i give a 50% nute dose of my normal veg nutes - basicly 10ml A+B per 10 liters. i water VERY little the first weeks to make sure the roots are not waterlogged untill i can see there is a lot of roots in the pot, and the plants suck it up quickly. basicly i might water 1 time the second week.
also i do normally soak the coco in nute solution. this makes the coco prepared for the plants.
i make a 10ml /10 liters and soak the compressed coco in it at times. for bigger plants i many times soak in the same nutes as for veg - this loads up the coco and after the transplants its only necesary to water with plain water untill a bit of paler leafs are growing out in the tip.
when the tips are growing with vigor, i start giving the veg nutes at 20ml of A+B per 10 liters, but every few waterings i give only straigth water.
i make sure the coco never dries up a lot during the first weeks but neither do i soak it. pretty much i leave the cups in a tray with a few millimeters of water in the bottom. i make sure the water level is not above the air/drainage holes of the pots because then the pots dont breath.
when the plants are bigger they can every now and then just suck up all the water from the tray without any problems. only a few plants dont like the slightly higher salt levels from the drained water. after all the plants are young - tand the salt levels are very low.
later on i water with about 0,5 liter per day per plant. with the temps i got now its pretty ok and economic with water.
for warmer temps less plants is a must, and huge pots make the water last all day.
watering twice a day by hand needs a lot of spare time. something i cant say i got too much off.. hehe
really i think you method for growing the seedlings sound ok, but you might consider NOT using a lot of RO water for young plants - since the lack of minerals in the water makes an effect of osmosis and ACTUALLY suck nutes from the plant roots!
its all simple laws of physics
i think the last thing might fix you problem ^^^
peace mates!
sometimes when i veg the plants to a candle holder look with lots of branching but no central cola - its best to prune the plants a lot before floewring them, and only let the biggest tips left. also cutting away undergrowth that the canopy covers is good. i think i wrote earlier that i only stray from this method with new plants - when i might have to reveg - then i let all lower branches left - to get a better start for the reveg.
seedlings - i start them of in rockwool plugs. i think it works great.. then when they have sprouted but before the taproot comes out of the plug, i transplant to coco. i dont use any nutes for the first week or so - its not really necesary - the SEED holds the necesary energi for the plants first life as long as it gets humidity. when the first few pairs of leafs start getting out i give a 50% nute dose of my normal veg nutes - basicly 10ml A+B per 10 liters. i water VERY little the first weeks to make sure the roots are not waterlogged untill i can see there is a lot of roots in the pot, and the plants suck it up quickly. basicly i might water 1 time the second week.
also i do normally soak the coco in nute solution. this makes the coco prepared for the plants.
i make a 10ml /10 liters and soak the compressed coco in it at times. for bigger plants i many times soak in the same nutes as for veg - this loads up the coco and after the transplants its only necesary to water with plain water untill a bit of paler leafs are growing out in the tip.
when the tips are growing with vigor, i start giving the veg nutes at 20ml of A+B per 10 liters, but every few waterings i give only straigth water.
i make sure the coco never dries up a lot during the first weeks but neither do i soak it. pretty much i leave the cups in a tray with a few millimeters of water in the bottom. i make sure the water level is not above the air/drainage holes of the pots because then the pots dont breath.
when the plants are bigger they can every now and then just suck up all the water from the tray without any problems. only a few plants dont like the slightly higher salt levels from the drained water. after all the plants are young - tand the salt levels are very low.
later on i water with about 0,5 liter per day per plant. with the temps i got now its pretty ok and economic with water.
for warmer temps less plants is a must, and huge pots make the water last all day.
watering twice a day by hand needs a lot of spare time. something i cant say i got too much off.. hehe
really i think you method for growing the seedlings sound ok, but you might consider NOT using a lot of RO water for young plants - since the lack of minerals in the water makes an effect of osmosis and ACTUALLY suck nutes from the plant roots!
its all simple laws of physics
i think the last thing might fix you problem ^^^
peace mates!
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bonecarver_OG
some of the skunk clones look worse than others. if ONE roots im sorted im keeping positive and checking on them all a few times a day
im sure in a few days the rest of them besides the skunk will start rooting.
im keeping positive and checking on them all a few times a day im sure in a few days the rest of them besides the skunk will start rooting.
bonecarver_OG said:really i think you method for growing the seedlings sound ok, but you might consider NOT using a lot of RO water for young plants - since the lack of minerals in the water makes an effect of osmosis and ACTUALLY suck nutes from the plant roots!
its all simple laws of physics
i think the last thing might fix you problem ^^^
peace mates!
thanks for the detailed, reasoned tips!!! I'll follow them. I think with with a 1x1 flowering tent SOG with clones looking for bat-like main colas is what makes sense then? Given the strains are suitable for that...
I've seeded 3 somangos, hopefully I can use one as mother, will cut some clones and if for the 2nd flowerin round I may try less plants and supercropping...
I don't use RO water... my tap water has that EC!!! I may need some dolomite lime or Cal/Mag?
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bonecarver_OG
wow mate beats me
try with a bit of cal mag - it might do it for you if your tap water is low in calcium.
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i jsut polinated the keeper ssh x ptk in flowering with pollen from the ssh x lp male. i didnt get too much pollen but i think it worked time will tell. im going to let the ssh x lp continue flowering - and later i will collect more pollen and try to save it. i know if i put one more clone to flower it will take more time for the new clone to reach maturity than what the male has left of life. so i have to figure out how to keep the pollen for a while in the humid conditions i live in.
hopefully this polination will give fruit to a whole bunch of seeds i hope i get enough to share a few around
the cross;
SSH/PTK x SSH/LP
the SSH is the same in both mom. PTK is as we all know a pure
pakistani landrace. LP is lovepotion
(lovepotion - (G13 x West Coast Santa Marta Gold) x West Coast Santa Marta Gold )
we are going to look for ssh bud structure, but hopefully more vigour in veg and in early flowering.
what we dont want is to loose bud density and resin production.
the outcome we are looking for should have a flavour as similar as possible to the moms. maybe in the end there might be several interseting phenos.. or none! hehe
also i noticed today one of the verde limon males seem to be a tough mofo, and its actually flowering in the cold conditions.
peace all!
beats me try with a bit of cal mag - it might do it for you if your tap water is low in calcium.
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i jsut polinated the keeper ssh x ptk in flowering with pollen from the ssh x lp male. i didnt get too much pollen but i think it worked
time will tell. im going to let the ssh x lp continue flowering - and later i will collect more pollen and try to save it. i know if i put one more clone to flower it will take more time for the new clone to reach maturity than what the male has left of life. so i have to figure out how to keep the pollen for a while in the humid conditions i live in.hopefully this polination will give fruit to a whole bunch of seeds
i hope i get enough to share a few around the cross;
SSH/PTK x SSH/LP
the SSH is the same in both mom. PTK is as we all know a pure
pakistani landrace. LP is lovepotion
(lovepotion - (G13 x West Coast Santa Marta Gold) x West Coast Santa Marta Gold )
we are going to look for ssh bud structure, but hopefully more vigour in veg and in early flowering.
what we dont want is to loose bud density and resin production.
the outcome we are looking for should have a flavour as similar as possible to the moms. maybe in the end there might be several interseting phenos.. or none! hehe
also i noticed today one of the verde limon males seem to be a tough mofo, and its actually flowering in the cold conditions.
peace all!
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bonecarver_OG
i just had to throw away a few of the skunk clones since they had started to rot big time. there is 3 left that dont look as bad and i still got hopes
i topped all clones that will get flowered next round - or i should say the ones i got prepared.. since i bet in the month and more thats left other clones will become big enough..
also i topped 2 of the ssh x lp that are growing very xmas tree like with close internodes and fine woody stem.
the woody stems are good since they are really resistant and clones well..
the vegged bushes are reaching the moment for transplant.. but im going to wait as long as possible - because if i can use the 12 liter pots i get off using much less coco than using all 25 liter pots.. now there is only 3 plants of the fems in veg that are in 12 liter pots..
the seedlings are all growing well and i had to re-organize them to make the smaller ones get light. the ssh/ptk x ptk are growing very slowly and look like they are going to be very PTK dominant..
seriously.. cant wait to flower all them bushes! hehe i havent even harvested this flowering bunch yet and im allready thinking of the next bunch hehe
also i re organized in the floewring room to be able to take out the SSH x ptk keeper to dust her.. in a few days i will re organize again - and put the ssh x ptk back under the light.. i want to make sure these seeds get well developed since i only dusted the lowest smallest nugs, in a couple of weeks when she is ready to cut, i will let the seeded nugs go untill they get completelly mature.
tomorow i think im going to start taking down the males that are not growing well... there is only really 3 males that are keeping alive well - its one verde limon, and 2 ssh x lp.
the ssh x lp males are different - one is short and stout with not much stretch, and the other one - that has dropped the pollen, is much more stretchy and sativa dominant.
i topped all clones that will get flowered next round - or i should say the ones i got prepared.. since i bet in the month and more thats left other clones will become big enough..
also i topped 2 of the ssh x lp that are growing very xmas tree like with close internodes and fine woody stem.
the woody stems are good since they are really resistant and clones well..
the vegged bushes are reaching the moment for transplant.. but im going to wait as long as possible - because if i can use the 12 liter pots i get off using much less coco than using all 25 liter pots.. now there is only 3 plants of the fems in veg that are in 12 liter pots..
the seedlings are all growing well and i had to re-organize them to make the smaller ones get light. the ssh/ptk x ptk are growing very slowly and look like they are going to be very PTK dominant..
seriously.. cant wait to flower all them bushes! hehe i havent even harvested this flowering bunch yet and im allready thinking of the next bunch
hehealso i re organized in the floewring room to be able to take out the SSH x ptk keeper to dust her.. in a few days i will re organize again - and put the ssh x ptk back under the light.. i want to make sure these seeds get well developed
since i only dusted the lowest smallest nugs, in a couple of weeks when she is ready to cut, i will let the seeded nugs go untill they get completelly mature.tomorow i think im going to start taking down the males that are not growing well... there is only really 3 males that are keeping alive well - its one verde limon, and 2 ssh x lp.
the ssh x lp males are different - one is short and stout with not much stretch, and the other one - that has dropped the pollen, is much more stretchy and sativa dominant.
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bonecarver_OG
i had a chat with the coop partner today.. and he thinks im crazy planting this many seeds at a time.. i think he is rigth.. hehe
this was the last time i will do it indoors. just no point trying to find keepers on the cost of yield..
too much sacrfice..
peace all!
this was the last time i will do it indoors. just no point trying to find keepers on the cost of yield..
too much sacrfice..
peace all!
