The Dr.Bud Method by Thundurkel

[CaptainStoner]

I look at your plants, thundurkel, and can't help but think that if they've got to the stage they have, they should go to the end. Still looking very good too, that urkel is just lovely.

My DrBud copy cab is coming along.. but i'm starting from scratch so will be a while yet.

just as an offshoot from this, I was in IKEA the other day, and saw these long, narrowish food storage boxes. Big enough for 3 or 4 20oz bottles, plus a little water.. I instantly thought "mother tray" so i got two

Bonsai moms, flowering plants.. all using this technique.. tis looking good, this revolution.

Keep up the good work sah, it's looking great

 

[clowntown]

As for GPW thats not why I made this thread, I made this one to be the test dummy and show people that a so called "newb" can get 7g dry from cuttings flowered at 2-4" ...

Did anyone ever dispute this? I know I didn't. Also, it's extremely strain-dependent.

 

[DrBudGreengenes]

Hey chill out.

Maybe in a couple of months I'll do it.

I say you failed because wasn't a part of your goal to achieve >= 1gpw?

I know I'm not getting 1gpw or close to it...

Don't get upset at me because DrBudGreengenes promised you guys 2-4gpw and you only got something like 0.25 - 0.5.

OK I have heard Clowntown spout off about me "Promising" Ppl 2-4 grams per watt for the LAST time....I NEVER told anyone they would get that ....EVER.

CT please post a link to the post where I promised ANYONE that?

Once again CT is confused.....what I said was ....

HID's have already been shown to produce Very nice budz indoors.
(And the world is Happy W/1gram per watt)

CFL's are the wave of the Future.....
(Yields of up 2.... 4 grams per watt may be possible with the right strain and time to Dial it in)

CFL's allow for ......
Many Points of light...(the corners are as Bright as the middle of the Box)
Lumens and Temp....can be "Altered" as needed.(by changing the Bulbs)
And Spectrum can be Manipulated as you wish. (by changing the Bulbs)
and in the middle of a grow if a bulb burns out it is a loss of a small Percentage of the over all light in the box....until it is replaced.

 

[bigherb]

thundurkel
keep us posted on the p.kush p.erkel side by side grow im very interested.my luck i really dont hav much experience wit p.erkel but from my exp i would say they r not related .only similar notes in exotic flavor

 

[clowntown]

You're right, you didn't exactly "promise", but then again that would be accusing Thundurkel to be an idiot with less than 1/2 a brain.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?p=1787159#post1787159

This is a EZ example of the truth....
ANY Idiot with 1/2 a brain a 430HID and an Ebb & Flow table can grow more than 1GPW....

4x4 table...holds 144 4" rockwool cubes
7 grams dried is EZ with any strain.
So we take 144 x 7 we get 1008
144 cuts
Producing 7 grams dried
is 1008 grams per 8 weeks from a 430HPS
that is 36 ozs
2,25LBs so still sooooooo Hard to understand a SOG done correctly?
1008 / 430 = 2.34 grams per watt
10 grams per cut ...
1440 / 430 = 3.34 GPW
The same thing can be done on a smaller scale with CFL's

**And I will say it again NO you can not grow TREES inside with CFL's....I never said you could .....but the tips of the branches can EZly be grown with them...and last time I checked the budz were on the BRANCHES not the BIG ass stem in the middle of most HID grown trees....trees are an outside toy.**

I'm not GOD ....I'm just a guy that has been messin' with my Gurl MJ for 28 years now....ANYBODY can do it.

NOW as I said to lou....see ya in the ICMag chat room...or U WILL be ignored.
Good Day......

 

[blackfoot]

This is a EZ example of the truth....
ANY Idiot with 1/2 a brain a 430HID and an Ebb & Flow table can grow more than 1GPW....

4x4 table...holds 144 4" rockwool cubes
7 grams dried is EZ with any strain.
So we take 144 x 7 we get 1008
144 cuts
Producing 7 grams dried
is 1008 grams per 8 weeks from a 430HPS
that is 36 ozs
2,25LBs so still sooooooo Hard to understand a SOG done correctly?
1008 / 430 = 2.34 grams per watt
10 grams per cut ...
1440 / 430 = 3.34 GPW
The same thing can be done on a smaller scale with CFL's

**And I will say it again NO you can not grow TREES inside with CFL's....I never said you could .....but the tips of the branches can EZly be grown with them...and last time I checked the budz were on the BRANCHES not the BIG ass stem in the middle of most HID grown trees....trees are an outside toy.**

I'm not GOD ....I'm just a guy that has been messin' with my Gurl MJ for 28 years now....ANYBODY can do it.

NOW as I said to lou....see ya in the ICMag chat room...or U WILL be ignored.
Good Day......


I am blackfoot and I support this message.,,,lol, It's not rocket science or politics. What the Dr. is saying is a proven fact. you have seen it done Clowntown, your not stupid just hard headed.

 

[clowntown]

This is a EZ example of the truth....
ANY Idiot with 1/2 a brain a 430HID and an Ebb & Flow table can grow more than 1GPW....

4x4 table...holds 144 4" rockwool cubes
7 grams dried is EZ with any strain.
So we take 144 x 7 we get 1008
144 cuts
Producing 7 grams dried
is 1008 grams per 8 weeks from a 430HPS
that is 36 ozs
2,25LBs so still sooooooo Hard to understand a SOG done correctly?
1008 / 430 = 2.34 grams per watt
10 grams per cut ...
1440 / 430 = 3.34 GPW
The same thing can be done on a smaller scale with CFL's

**And I will say it again NO you can not grow TREES inside with CFL's....I never said you could .....but the tips of the branches can EZly be grown with them...and last time I checked the budz were on the BRANCHES not the BIG ass stem in the middle of most HID grown trees....trees are an outside toy.**

I'm not GOD ....I'm just a guy that has been messin' with my Gurl MJ for 28 years now....ANYBODY can do it.

NOW as I said to lou....see ya in the ICMag chat room...or U WILL be ignored.
Good Day......

I am blackfoot and I support this message.,,,lol, It's not rocket science or politics. What the Dr. is saying is a proven fact. you have seen it done Clowntown, your not stupid just hard headed.

Proven fact where? The last thread that DrBudGreengenes threw up posting 10k's pictures, using 1kw lights, all the bells and whistles, less than 144 plants per 4x4, and still not getting close to 2gpw, pretty much disproved it. But of course he begged to have it deleted after his ego was ruined when people with a clue started to chime in...

Disproved... in his own thread...

 

[mosfetti]

icmag is becoming shit because of people like you.
grow and stfu.

 

[blackfoot]

I forgot to add my other ladies pics to the thread and I had to take another shot of my frostiness on Urkle clone 1 so here we go





Look at that frost!!!!! Good Hash is right bro!





Right here we have my newest flavor added to the mix which is
Maui Waui Tutti Fruity and she's at the end of week 1 of 12/12





This is Urkle clone 2 at the end of week 1 of 12/12 and starting to stretch and is bigger than my first Urkle clone that I flowered at 2 inches so the week of veg seemed to help but I'm not sure yet...







Last but not least we have Urkle clone 3 that was 3 1/2 inches with a week and 2 days of veg and she's getting her stretch starting on day 5 of 12/12...


Thats it for now I have to update my Thunder Goo round 2 thread I can't wait to cross the 2! Urkle x Thunder Goo !!!! Lavender Thunder Dreams baby!!!!

Hey Thundurkel, How did those come out, did you find what size clone works best for your Urkle? , Have a good day! , peace

 

[Thundurkel]

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This is all I really see from ClownTown in the Micro section, I showed a few friends who grow that 144 4" cubes on a 4x4 Ebb&Flow with a 430HPS and 2 of them worked at grow shops and all 3 of them agreed with DrBud.... Again this thread is about that it's about new growers learning that if you follow what DrBud does you can get the 7g dry in soil grown in 20oz bottles under CFL's

 

[blackfoot]

hey Thundurkel how's the stretch coming for ya?

I think this strain I am working on needs to be about the size of my thumb when she goes 12/12. I'll keep you updated

peace

After 9 days This is what I have ,, It needs some N ,I know so STFU clowntown.,, I am going to move it lower to around 8" from the lights to see what happens in the final lap of the stretch.





,peace

 

[Thundurkel]

You're right, you didn't exactly "promise", but then again that would be accusing Thundurkel to be an idiot with less than 1/2 a brain.

No he wouldn't cuz I was using his style long before that comment was made and it was said so you HID guys could understand it better IMO... All the Doc has done for me is show me how to grow quality nugs in my room with no contact with grow shops and I thank him greatly for that all the hating on him just cuz you don't want to believe that you can get 7g from 144 cuts under a 430HPS is just stupid and the more you bring it up(which is at least 3 times a week) makes me think you are the one starving for attention. Hempybucquet proved your disbelief in his thread wrong as will I...

 

[clowntown]

This is all I really see from ClownTown in the Micro section,

Wrong, but...

I showed a few friends who grow that 144 4" cubes on a 4x4 Ebb&Flow with a 430HPS and 2 of them worked at grow shops and all 3 of them agreed with DrBud.... Again this thread is about that it's about new growers learning that if you follow what DrBud does you can get the 7g dry in soil grown in 20oz bottles under CFL's

7g dry single plant isn't the same thing as 7g dry as many plants as you can pack in a given space.

Ever wonder why those friends of yours are working minimum wage jobs at grow shops?

Not only do I not want to believe that anyone can get 1008g from 430w as mentioned, I know it won't happen. You can try going 200mph as much as you want... you can try as hard as you want... but with a Ford Pinto, you're not getting there. Sorry.

 

[Thundurkel]

Wrong, but...


7g dry single plant isn't the same thing as 7g dry as many plants as you can pack in a given space.

Ever wonder why those friends of yours are working minimum wage jobs at grow shops?

Not only do I not want to believe that anyone can get 1008g from 430w as mentioned, I know it won't happen. You can try going 200mph as much as you want... you can try as hard as you want... but with a Ford Pinto, you're not getting there. Sorry.

Wow you're ignorant more like the own the shops along with my buddy that owns a club up north....I've asked quite a few growers and the only ones that freak out like you are guys that have been growing for a year or so with HID's and the ones who agree with DrBud are my old school growers from Mendo and Humboldt with 20+yrs of growing MJ under their belts so troll somewhere else CT

 

[clowntown]

Sorry, not trolling, just trying to get you to see the light.

How come on these canna forums, it seems... every time some dude wants to dispute something with me and have nothing to back it, they'll go the "default route" of "the guy at the growshop said..." in order to buy credibility. Then when I toss that "credibility" down the drain, every single time it turns into "oh yeah, guy @ growshop is an owner buddy of mine!$@#! FTW!!!" I swear 10 out of 10 times it turns up like this.

So why don't you show us how it's done, pulling 1008g out of 430w? Wild claims usually need to be accompanied by proof, otherwise it's called "bullshit".

Under Mr. 10k's grow that DrBudGreengenes showed, the guy was certainly not getting 2000g+ out per 1000w, or close to it, even with all the bells and whistles, CO2, etc.

 

[Thundurkel]

Look dude you're starting to piss me off, I've said before if I had the space I would... But I don't so I'm doing to Micro SOG test so others can see it can be done cuz I saw so many people say they just don't believe that he gets what he says under CFL's... You can't prove him wrong unless you run the test your self bro one of the dudes I had showed the 430 quote to was like "thats weak" "you could pull 10-12g dry if you know what you're doing" he was talking bud not stem weight too... You wont change my mind and I wont change yours so just shut up already, this is the last time I respond to your nonsense....

 

[blackfoot]

Thundurkel, This is how far I am going to keep this plant from the lights over the next week. It's around 8" ,,If I stick out my thumb and pinky finger like making a hand signal "call me" from my piny to my thumb to the lights ,, That's 8" because that's the same size as a 8" center block,,( old job no tape measure ).
I'll let you know in a week how this test works for me. peace

 

[clowntown]

Don't be pissed off. Learn something new. I learn something new every day, some of it from micro growing forums, some of it not. Depends on how much material I dig through.

For instance, a few weeks ago I learned that there were many liars and cowards who loved to bark loud when it was time to make claims, but whimpered away when time came to prove it.

No one is disputing 7g, 10-14g, 50g, 5lbs, etc, from a single plant. What I am disputing is that the per-plant yield goes down as plant count increases, and also not in a linear fashion.

 

[sleepyrz]

PERPETUAL

 

[oldpink]

look if you guys can't get along use the ignore function