More Leaf Problems! Burning and yellowing?

[DRKN_MNKY420]

hey guys I APPRECIATE the help.

Last time around I didn't have drainage issues. After I water I can easily take the bottom box off. I don't really need it, I just use it to catch runoff and not make a big mess, + I can check pH then. I usually let them sit for a couple hours before I dump the runoff to make sure it soaks up any thing it needs, then I put it back on for a night or two, then I dump it again to make sure mold and algae don't grow in the bottom box.

I recently spoke with Stitch via pm, and Stitch said that my problems are more related to having 4 two foot plants in a 5 gallon container. Stitch thinks that they are competing for N and I am underfeeding, making it worse. Stitch didn't think that the soil, lime, or pH down has any adverse affect on my situation. Even my hard water is probably not the problem according to stitch.

I am still planning on using my new nutes I bought botanicare PBP bloom, grow, karma, cal-mag, and clearex. I increased my temps to about 77-85 by moving my grow to the upstairs of my house. I bought 5 gallons of spring water to use. I am really trying to eliminate my possibilities which will hopefully help. I am also not using the pH down to see what effect that has, considering the spring water is already 7.5.

I can add a few more drainage holes if you think it will help.

I am going to give the coco a try, I bought a big 1.5 brick of it to try on my new seedlings. Which will be my next grow. My biggest worry is sometimes I go away for 2-3 days at a time and I have read that coco is high maintance. I just hope I can make it work. I am also going to try and use 1 gallon grow bags for individual plants cause they are all going to be on different growth schedules due to 5 different genetics.

Anyways, I wish you all wouldn't argue, because you all want to help and I think you all have something to contribute. Unless some one is telling me something seriously wrong, try not to argue. Sometimes it is hard to weed out the ppl talking out their ass and the ones who know best. That is why I went to an old friend stitch. You all got the underfeeding part correct! So thank you! I wasn't sure, but I am now.

I will keep try and keep up this thread till my issues start to clear up or get better.

THANKS,
DRKN_MNKY420

 

[DRKN_MNKY420]

DAY 24 BLOOM UPDATE

DAY 24 BLOOM UPDATE

Thanks Toodles for stopping bye, I appreciate the info supplied!

Now I told you guys I would post updates as I get them, so I took some pics and I finally fed them last night.

I fed them a mix of PBP bloom soil 6ml, grow 5ml, karma 5ml, and I didn't have my cal/mag+ yet, so I put 1 teaspoon of epsom salt all into a gallon of my new spring water.

The spring water tested at 7.3 pH and after I added nutes it dropped to 5.5. Then I test the runoff at 6.7. I figure this is pretty good. I didn't need to use any pH down!!! I also made sure the soil was real dry!

I have been noticing some green color coming back to the main stems and all new bud site growth appears to be a nice green colored stem. So I hope that increasing the nutes, adding epsom salt, not using pH down, using spring water, and increasing the avg temp to 77-85 will get me some better results.

Well take a peek:










I dunno about the drainage, I was considering adding more last night, but when I was feeding there was quite a bit coming out of the current drainage holes.

Well gotta run, Thanks for all the help everyone!
DRKN_MNKY420

 

[DRKN_MNKY420]

I have been working with Mynamestitch through PM and stitch said to get my temps up, that they were too low at around 70.

 

[DRKN_MNKY420]

Your temps are too cold and are getting normal later on when lights are on. SO your problem is they are too big for the container they are in, cool temps and badly underfeeding is your problem. you will just need to try to get your temps to stay a little warm for best absorption...Mynamestitch

I dunno, but I do know stitch has helped in the past and seems to be a legend on these forums.

That is not everything stitch said, but I just cut up some pieces from two different PM's.

I think the idea with warmer temps is that my soil is staying wet too long when it is cooler. Better absorption and quicker drying out of soil with the higher temps.

Well stitch said a little warmer, but I don't have any other way to get them just a little warmer, other than moving my rubbermaids to the upper level of my house. I have no place to safely put them on the ground level and the basement stays around 70.

ADDED: The current weather in my area has been horribly humid. The RH has been aroun 70-80% daily. The outside temps have been 80-90 and the inside temps upstairs are around 80 during daytime hours.

 

[DRKN_MNKY420]

Well other than add more drainage holes, what do you propose I should do to fix my problems.

I already bought the coco for my new seedlings that popped up yesterday. I will transplant them to the coco as soon at they out grow there little 12oz cups they are in. I know you don't like FFOF, but I must admit one thing. I have NEVER had issues using FFOF mix with seedlings or clones. Always very healthy for the first two or three weeks and then I start seeing problems. So my plan is to tranplant out of the FFOF as soon as they are old enough and before the problems can start.

Next grow will use the black 1gal grow bags, so I should not have issues w/ drainage, as they have huge holes all around the bottom and some on the side.

I already read the LC#1 mix and I am going to go w/ that mix using th coco as the main medium. I have lime and perlite, just need to pick up some worm castings and I think I got all the ingredents.

SO now that my new plants are going to have a great start, please tell me what to do right now.

You think I should move back to basement temps and continue to feed at higher dosages than 2.5ml/gal PBP.

I am positive that if I transplant now I will really screw things up. So I don't think that is an option as I am now on a time schedule for Vegging of my new seedlings. I can't veg too long or they will over grow my setup. I just need to get bye with this current grow, these plants I have already smoked over 3oz of it and I don't care as much about them. I just want enough buds to get me through, until I harvest my new seedlings.

Don't forget you can always use PM if you don't want peeps to harass you about your comments and thoughts.

Give me some credit, I am trying to perminantly fix my problems, because I HATE doing these kinda threads. But I honestly don't know exactly what is wrong other than under feeding.

THanks Again!
DRKN_MNKY420

 

[B.C.]

Maybe I can clear up a few things.

Maybe I can clear up a few things.

I think what Stich was talkin about when she said absorption was that some nute get lock out at too low of temps ( and too high ). But I agree with Toodles yer temps before were jus perfect. I think the temp have ta be much lower ta fuck with nutrient up take....Problems after 2-3 weeks is solely under feeding, and the wrong ratio of NPK fer flowering plants. I don't know how the hell you made it to the end of yer other grows with those nutes. Go back and look at them, they were DARK green from having too much N. Also, this ratio for fowering plants is jus asking for deficiencies. All I can say about yer past grows is that the soil must have helped balance things out some. It's a shame too, cus it's like you've been growin with a crutch all this time! Yuv had it all down, but jus the wrong fuckin nutes! Even with the small amount you were givin em, you still came out with half way decent buds. Again, I think the soil had to have helped out. If you would have had the right nutes then, jus think how much better things would have been. We obviously wouldn't be havein this conversation right now..... Listen yall, here that? ya hear his plant saying, OH GOD! THANK YOU DM! WE WERE STARVIN TA DEATH DOWN HERE! LOL! Later, BC

 

[Johnny Rotten]

They already look better....I use PBP soil at 10-15 ml per gal and could go double that on hungry plants. Shit, my bottle says to use it at 30 ml a gal for fruiting and flowering and 45 ml for aggressive flowering.

Your temps are PERFECT, start with one thing(upping the feedings) and see where that takes you.

I'm loving coco right now and can tell you without a doubt that the growth rates shit all over peat. Just rooting clones takes less time and the root growth is double that of any organic soil i've ever played with. My next go will be with the Lc #1 mix and organics and will be done side by side with General Hydro and pure coco to see the true difference.

 

[Hammerhead]

Sorry stupid guestion PBP=? and is that a all in one nutrient meaning you don't need to add other stuff to make it complete

 

[Johnny Rotten]

Yes, you can use PBP as a one part if you have enough cal-mag in your water. Otherwise, it needs to be supplemented with Cal-Mag Plus. Most people run this combo with Liquid Karma, also by Botanicare, with stunning results although I've never ran it.

PBP is not totally organic but it has more than enough to make your smoke smooth and tasty.

 

[Phedrosbenny]

are you sure that you have enough drainage holes? and what is your humidity like?do you have nough air flow in the space you are using?

my buddy had all the problems mentioned above and his plants was looking like yours..did you have a mold problem last time during flowering?

good luck