-
Happy Birthday ICMag! Been 20 years since Gypsy Nirvana created the forum! We are celebrating with a 4/20 Giveaway and by launching a new Patreon tier called "420club". You can read more here.
-
Important notice: ICMag's T.O.U. has been updated. Please review it here. For your convenience, it is also available in the main forum menu, under 'Quick Links"!
Its official Cannabis coming back 2 class B in the UK
- Thread starter Harry Gypsna
- Start date
if they follow ACMDs line and include 'drug' canna seeds under the Misuse of Drugs Act (like they did in Germany) then seed sales will be illegal in UKPLC
Class B is old school,, like Mickey Finn,, (wheel-up come again) 
Like a renaissance in the legality of erb smoking rules ,,, lol
It was class B when we were kids .. so it will be as we are adults ... hehe
Sow it , grow it , smoke it , ignore the law!
Takes us back way when... to the days when we did what we liked... smoking from wheat-straw rizla in side ways,, toking hits on roundabouts,, 5skins on golf club fairways,, bus stops, and bowling green pavilions! Those are the days we can never forget,, bring it on!!
The law is an ass !
Those that follow its nonsensical rules, are fools !!
The further they push it underground the stronger it grows!!!
Like a renaissance in the legality of erb smoking rules ,,, lol
It was class B when we were kids .. so it will be as we are adults ... hehe
Sow it , grow it , smoke it , ignore the law!
Takes us back way when... to the days when we did what we liked... smoking from wheat-straw rizla in side ways,, toking hits on roundabouts,, 5skins on golf club fairways,, bus stops, and bowling green pavilions! Those are the days we can never forget,, bring it on!!
The law is an ass !
Those that follow its nonsensical rules, are fools !!
The further they push it underground the stronger it grows!!!
Last edited:
The UK has it's own scene,,,
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=89459
,, no amount of pen pushing can destroy the momentum behind what's happening now.
Like a giant rolling stone,,, made up of stoned ppl :wink:
In the UK many ppl are cowardice,, so it is usually left to wise old ladies (granny pat) to stand on the front line alone to fight for cannabis rights! Real activist! One love Pat :friends:
The next hemp expo is in London Town in Winter,, please be there, meet a few,, spread some love !!
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=89459
,, no amount of pen pushing can destroy the momentum behind what's happening now.
Like a giant rolling stone,,, made up of stoned ppl :wink:
In the UK many ppl are cowardice,, so it is usually left to wise old ladies (granny pat) to stand on the front line alone to fight for cannabis rights! Real activist! One love Pat :friends:
The next hemp expo is in London Town in Winter,, please be there, meet a few,, spread some love !!
Last edited:
Well this might be fun then - the ACMD are having a public meeting in London next week to discuss their operational strategy:
http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/ACMD-_Open_-Meeting_19.05.24.pdf
You need to register to attend, so the form is here:
http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/publication-search/acmd/ACMD-open-meeting-app-form.doc
Anyone living in London might find it useful to shuffle along...
http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/ACMD-_Open_-Meeting_19.05.24.pdf
You need to register to attend, so the form is here:
http://drugs.homeoffice.gov.uk/publication-search/acmd/ACMD-open-meeting-app-form.doc
Anyone living in London might find it useful to shuffle along...
S
ScrogHog
Maybe if you english people didnt call all good weed "skunk" they wouldnt be talking about its super potent effects...
not all of us do-only those who dont know any better-and as thats the case-well they dont know any better do they lol
G
Guest
Maybe in the mid 90's it was true that folks here called all good weed 'skunk' but nowadays it's definitely not true anymore.
Now they call it "cheese" .. lol
Most bag-slingers in the UK today, know the source and variety of the dope in their satchel. Furthermore they market the name of the strain (i.e. blue berry) and the method (hydro) at the point of sale.
Cannabis scene in the UK has changed... only the mentality behind the legislation has remained the same...
Most bag-slingers in the UK today, know the source and variety of the dope in their satchel. Furthermore they market the name of the strain (i.e. blue berry) and the method (hydro) at the point of sale.
Cannabis scene in the UK has changed... only the mentality behind the legislation has remained the same...
Last edited:
The government don't know shit,there just scaremongering like they always do when there's no evidence to prove otherwise.Owe no this skunk weed is 20 x stronger then it was 10-20 years ago,MY ARSE.
I know for a fact that sativa's grown in the country of origin knock's the shit out of any so called homegrown "skunk" weed,the strongest weed i've ever smoked was some imported colombian gold in the mid 90's and i've not had anything since that can come close to the strength of that.
There just clutching straws trying to convince the population that skunk is addictive and cause's you to go mad after a spliff when infact most people smoke less when they've got potent weed as you don't need as much to get stoned.
I've heard there going to try and get cannabis paraphinalia made illegal as well like seed's/bong's and even king size skin's wether that's true or not i'm not sure..
Fuck em anyway it won't stop me from doing what i do.
I know for a fact that sativa's grown in the country of origin knock's the shit out of any so called homegrown "skunk" weed,the strongest weed i've ever smoked was some imported colombian gold in the mid 90's and i've not had anything since that can come close to the strength of that.
There just clutching straws trying to convince the population that skunk is addictive and cause's you to go mad after a spliff when infact most people smoke less when they've got potent weed as you don't need as much to get stoned.
I've heard there going to try and get cannabis paraphinalia made illegal as well like seed's/bong's and even king size skin's wether that's true or not i'm not sure..
Fuck em anyway it won't stop me from doing what i do.
S
ScrogHog
I stand corrected then.
Hm, not too sure about that...ScrogHog said:
Also, ganja_pasha, I don't know for sure what goes on in your parts of the land, but down here (SW) a shocking amount of smokers are still totally clueless and call all green/bud "skunk". I was quite stunned when I first noticed; it's also very difficult to correct this perception.
I think we sometimes overlook the fact that as board denizens and canna connoisseurs (of sorts, anyway) we are always talking about weed at quite a high level --- my experience is that most bag-slingers call all weed "skunk", and what's more, feel proud/superior that they have managed to score this "super-strong" stuff, which even the government says is fantastic!
The level of ignorance is unbelievably high, head-banging stuff really, you almost (yes I said ALMOST
) can't blame the government for getting it so wrong. The most unacceptable thing for me is how supposed "experts" are willing to accept clueless street hype as gospel truth. [ Look at the ACMD report: and I quote LOL "the types of cannabis available in the UK are: 1)weed 2)hash(meaning soap) and 3)skunk(sensimilla) ]
Bit of a vicious circle of ignorance, really...
Last edited:
True!marijuanamat said:
In fact if you look at the ACMD report, you will see that even the exremely dodgy data they use shows that the percentages were 13.7% in 2005 biut only 10.4% in 2007 (whatever that may mean). You still don't see them shrieking about a wild fall in potency, like they did when it went up from 10.6% in 1998 to 13.7 in 2005.
Of course all these figures are garbage, really, NO STANDARDISED TEST has yet appeared, I challenge any official to tell me how these measurements are made.
Like I said, even the rabid John Walters, the American Drug Tsar talks about cannabis strength doubling, oh yes, it's now 8%, apparently, whereas it used to be 4%.
So one of two things is happening.
1) All of America is smoking really crap weed, only half as strong as shitty, early-chopped, wet UK street weed!
2) All the authorities have not got the foggiest clue what they're taking about, and are pulling figures out of their behinds.
Urm, which of the two is it, now? - hang on, that's a difficult one....
Well speed-reading the report seems to concur with most of the recent data - that there seems to be no correlation between cannabis use and schizophrenia, and the levels of each are independent. Which makes the government's position totally unsustainable, as that is the main plank of their argument. Maybe a few letters to Jaquie Smith might be in order to find out how she can form the opposite conclusion to the evidence?
As for fishing bait, I'm boiling up a kilo of hempseed right now. Just out of interest, a 24-hour soak produced at least half the batch sprouting, wihcih suggests they're not sterilised at all. Makes me think I should do a hemp germination test, just to see what they actually look like these days...
As for fishing bait, I'm boiling up a kilo of hempseed right now. Just out of interest, a 24-hour soak produced at least half the batch sprouting, wihcih suggests they're not sterilised at all. Makes me think I should do a hemp germination test, just to see what they actually look like these days...
Absolutely, Elevator Man, although what's EVEN weirder for me is this:Elevator Man said:
Given the conclusions of the ACMD report you mentioned, how on Earth did the ACMD reach the recommendations it did? - which mostly seem to target small home growers, btw, old hippies and the canna culture in general, while completely ignoring / glossing over the criminal side of things. It seems like their recommendations were just an attempt to appease tabloid hysteria, and ran totally against the grain of the report itself.
I'll bet there was a lot of horse trading before the report came out, but I must say it is very disappointing that even when the report itself shows the stupidity of further prohibition, the recommendation of the report itself fly in their face.
Talk about schizophrenic...
It would be really good if someone literate and confident could go along to that public meeting and get stuck in...at least to question their methodology. Unfortunately I'm way too far from London, and skint...
As for the analyses of THC levels, etc. in the report, they were puzzled that 'sinsemilla' showed very low levels of CBD, compared to imported weed and hash. I would have thought that was obvious, and down to CBD being produced as a degradation product of THC through curing, packaging, transportation and storage. Coupled with the super-fast drying and selling of home-grown weed (rememember when it was called home-grown?), which is unlikely to have much CBD, as it's still wet when sold, it's not surprising they come up with the figures they do.
Also they're based on seizures, which also can mislead, as the police are unlikely to seize super-high-quality samples generally, but average wholesale lots, which will be weaker, and less pure. I'm tempted to anonomously send them some bits of Thai stick and the hand-rolled Moroccan balls as examples of extremely high-quality imported cannabis. A case of 'put that in your pipe and smoke it'...
BTW, are there any anonymous testing labs in the UK you can send samples to for analysis? I guess THC tests cost a fortune. But I'd love to know what the Thai sticks are in reality, as they seem very strong...
As for the analyses of THC levels, etc. in the report, they were puzzled that 'sinsemilla' showed very low levels of CBD, compared to imported weed and hash. I would have thought that was obvious, and down to CBD being produced as a degradation product of THC through curing, packaging, transportation and storage. Coupled with the super-fast drying and selling of home-grown weed (rememember when it was called home-grown?), which is unlikely to have much CBD, as it's still wet when sold, it's not surprising they come up with the figures they do.
Also they're based on seizures, which also can mislead, as the police are unlikely to seize super-high-quality samples generally, but average wholesale lots, which will be weaker, and less pure. I'm tempted to anonomously send them some bits of Thai stick and the hand-rolled Moroccan balls as examples of extremely high-quality imported cannabis. A case of 'put that in your pipe and smoke it'...
BTW, are there any anonymous testing labs in the UK you can send samples to for analysis? I guess THC tests cost a fortune. But I'd love to know what the Thai sticks are in reality, as they seem very strong...
Elevator Man said:
OK. So let's acquire a THC test-kit between us (a high grade professional model like they use at simms) and conduct the tests between us ourselves!!!
Between us I's sure we can find a few 'Cheese' samples to test against a 'Thai stick' sample,,, to test against a 100 other samples grown in the UK
There are 101 organisations that will sponsor or support the tests!
Action makes change!
peace
dLeaf
Alright guys
The forces of darkness have been shaping public opinion for the past couple of years on this issue. Seriously. All the media stories about kiddies topping themselves or going crazy-weeping mothers, academic studies-government pronouncements all came out of nowhere-2 or 3 years ago.
It is like this. They are fighting a war ondrugs-we are their enemy. They are trying to undermine our popular support among the general public. We need to organize.
there is no link-it's obvious. Canna use has risen exponentially since, say, the mid 60's-while rates of psychosis in the general population have remain roughly constant. End of story. This very point was put to a prof who was advancing the ganja nutcase thesis on Radio4 last year-his response was to question the methods of calculating rates of mental health problems in the population-ie he had no answer.
The forces of darkness have been shaping public opinion for the past couple of years on this issue. Seriously. All the media stories about kiddies topping themselves or going crazy-weeping mothers, academic studies-government pronouncements all came out of nowhere-2 or 3 years ago.
It is like this. They are fighting a war ondrugs-we are their enemy. They are trying to undermine our popular support among the general public. We need to organize.
Last edited:
