WaterFarm droopy yellow leaves issue

[Guest]

I was adding nutes already at 10 days half strength. THey are very robust now. 2 inches a day and the droop is going away. My ph sit around 5.8 in and i flush the system every week. How do you drain your farm?

I'm not sure if you can tell from pics I've been posting, but I built my own little custom wooden bucket holder while I work on my buckets. As you can see from the pics above I take it out and set it on the wooden support and I lift the light up with ez lift and take the bucket away from light right away so I don't expose the water to light.

Either that or like upgradeshafted said you can siphon it out with a cheap tube. I personally like to take the bucket out because I get to clean it out more and wipe off the residue that gets built up inside the bucket.

Also I tried adding nutrients at 1/3 what I'm supposed to give them and right away my plants get very very yellow tips and I get scared real fast and dump the water out. I'm gonna stick to just using magical for 21 days like ubet28 said and then start my nutes.

 

[tintala]

turn the fill tube down to drain...or i use a extra bucket...or a siphon...the pot will sit on the top of the bucket perfect cadi corner

yeah I understand that if you have single fill tubes on each bucket, but, i have 8 buckets attached to my controller. The controller has a single fill tube like you said, but with 8 buckets attached I cant exaclty lift the controller to drain it off nor can i lift each bucket as they are attached to all the other buckets. does that make sense?

 

[Guest]

yeah I understand that if you have single fill tubes on each bucket, but, i have 8 buckets attached to my controller. The controller has a single fill tube like you said, but with 8 buckets attached I cant exaclty lift the controller to drain it off nor can i lift each bucket as they are attached to all the other buckets. does that make sense?

The cheap solution in this case = siphon, but if you find that too slow you can hook up a water pump to the hose and have it pump the water out faster. I think you can find pretty cheap water pumps, I know gas pumps for cars do almost the same thing if you can find a good clean/cheap one.

 

[upgradeshafted]

submersible pump and a waterhose for insta drain...i have 8 waterfarms as well i just run them independently and use the rez and controller for a chair in the grow room lol

 

[Guest]

Day 13, light is 20" above the highest tip of the plant. Does this look like reaching or just aggressive growth? When people say to have the light 18-24" above the plant do they mean from the bottom or the top? I always assumed 18-24" from the very top of the plant.

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[ubet28]

submersible pump and a waterhose for insta drain...i have 8 waterfarms as well i just run them independently and use the rez and controller for a chair in the grow room lol

I have to give you props running 8 buckets without res. The maintenance with water farms is why i went to drip much less work. When i ran 5 buckets with res i used to empty all the buckets with a pump and then unhook each bucket to clean it out it was a pain in the ass.

 

[Guest]

I have to give you props running 8 buckets without res. The maintenance with water farms is why i went to drip much less work. When i ran 5 buckets with res i used to empty all the buckets with a pump and then unhook each bucket to clean it out it was a pain in the ass.

Hey ubet28 do you know of a ppm cycle for different stages, perhaps with a timeline. I'm just trying to make sure I stay around the correct ppm during the lifecycle.

 

[ubet28]

Hey ubet28 do you know of a ppm cycle for different stages, perhaps with a timeline. I'm just trying to make sure I stay around the correct ppm during the lifecycle.

The way i did it was and all this depends several factors like nutrients strain and so on. But here ya go

early veg 200 to 400 1st week

middle veg 500 to 700 2nd week

late veg 800 to 1000 3rd week and 4th week

Then i flush with a clearing solution for 24 hours checking pH and adjusting every 4 hrs if needed.

Then i start flowering

early flower 500 to 600 1st and 2nd week

middle flower 700 to 800 3rd week

4th week 800 to 1000

then i flush 24 hours

then i run low ppm for 5th and 6th week watching trichs ppm of 600
once triches are close i start flushing again till harvest.

The whole process is done with lots of sweet leaf and some boosters.
I also have a foil er concoction that i use every day in veg and flower.

I can tell how i do it but you will have to feed the way your plants want to be fed.

Last but not least and probably the most important thing to success in my opinion.

RES CHANGES I CHANGE MY RES EVERY WEEK I DO THIS EVERY SUNDAY NIGHT. EVERY 2 WEEKS I WOULD EMPTY ALL THE BUCKETS AND CLEAN THEM ALSO. THIS IS WHY I SWITCHED TO DRIP SYSTEM A LITTLE EASIER TO CLEAN.

 

[Guest]

The way i did it was and all this depends several factors like nutrients strain and so on. But here ya go

early veg 200 to 400 1st week

middle veg 500 to 700 2nd week

late veg 800 to 1000 3rd week and 4th week

Then i flush with a clearing solution for 24 hours checking pH and adjusting every 4 hrs if needed.

Then i start flowering

early flower 500 to 600 1st and 2nd week

middle flower 700 to 800 3rd week

4th week 800 to 1000

then i flush 24 hours

then i run low ppm for 5th and 6th week watching trichs ppm of 600
once triches are close i start flushing again till harvest.

The whole process is done with lots of sweet leaf and some boosters.
I also have a foil er concoction that i use every day in veg and flower.

I can tell how i do it but you will have to feed the way your plants want to be fed.

Last but not least and probably the most important thing to success in my opinion.

RES CHANGES I CHANGE MY RES EVERY WEEK I DO THIS EVERY SUNDAY NIGHT. EVERY 2 WEEKS I WOULD EMPTY ALL THE BUCKETS AND CLEAN THEM ALSO. THIS IS WHY I SWITCHED TO DRIP SYSTEM A LITTLE EASIER TO CLEAN.

Awesome, thanks alot of this detailed reply it is much appreciated, this should probably be a sticky because it is very helpful information. I saw on another thread someone was combining gh grow, micro and bloom along with floralicious gro, and floralicious bloom and diamond nectar. Whenever I add any nutrients on top of the magical my tips get yellow, is something locking out or is this an overnute sign?

Oh one more thing, my specific strain says it is 9-10 weeks of flowering, I only see your steps go to weeks 5 and 6 what kind of strains have such short flowering periods?

 

[ubet28]

Awesome, thanks alot of this detailed reply it is much appreciated, this should probably be a sticky because it is very helpful information. I saw on another thread someone was combining gh grow, micro and bloom along with floralicious gro, and floralicious bloom and diamond nectar. Whenever I add any nutrients on top of the magical my tips get yellow, is something locking out or is this an overnute sign?

Oh one more thing, my specific strain says it is 9-10 weeks of flowering, I only see your steps go to weeks 5 and 6 what kind of strains have such short flowering periods?

As for the flowering time. I keep my room at a 1300 to 1500 ppm of co2. Which in turn cuts around 2 weeks off my flower time. Also cuts 2 weeks off veg time.

So for you just start over after the flush at 4 weeks and work back up to a max of 1000 ppm but allow yourself a week to flush before harvest.

Well with leaf burn if i remember right you were feeding the plants a little soon. Are you watching the new growth?

Why don't you pm with some detailed info of what you are doing at the present time .i.e. like water age nutrients used and just give me as much info as you can and i will get back with you and try and help ya out a couple new pics would be nice.

After skiming over the post i seen one that said you have them planted in rockwool and then in the buckets?

 

[Guest]

As for the flowering time. I keep my room at a 1300 to 1500 ppm of co2. Which in turn cuts around 2 weeks off my flower time. Also cuts 2 weeks off veg time.

So for you just start over after the flush at 4 weeks and work back up to a max of 1000 ppm but allow yourself a week to flush before harvest.

Well with leaf burn if i remember right you were feeding the plants a little soon. Are you watching the new growth?

Why don't you pm with some detailed info of what you are doing at the present time .i.e. like water age nutrients used and just give me as much info as you can and i will get back with you and try and help ya out a couple new pics would be nice.

After skiming over the post i seen one that said you have them planted in rockwool and then in the buckets?

I have the ppm at 450 right now with 10ml of magical and that's it. Keeping the ph around 6-6.5.

If I try to add about 3ml of gh micro, gro and bloom along with 1ml of floralicious bloom and 1ml of diamond nectar the ppm goes to about 700 and the plants don't like that at all at 14 days I suppose. The medium I first received the plants in is this spongy black material I'm pretty sure it's rockwool.

The plants go back to normal with 2 gallons of water and 10ml of magical. They stay green, but I noticed some purple stemming on the fan leaves.

14 days. 450ppm only magical nothing else, seems it's the only thing they like so far that doesn't turn the tips yellow.






Just shake and set for direct delivery to the plants *for now while they're short* I'll probably add clear tubing and a valve for dropping the co2 form the top later as they get taller.

 

[upgradeshafted]

i run twelve independent systems in flower...and yes it is a pain in the ass...but is the way in my humble opinion to grow...they are individuals..peace and thanks for the props

I have to give you props running 8 buckets without res. The maintenance with water farms is why i went to drip much less work. When i ran 5 buckets with res i used to empty all the buckets with a pump and then unhook each bucket to clean it out it was a pain in the ass.

 

[Guest]

The rich dark green is back now that they are getting a bit older and can take water all day and with the addition of some extra co2.

 

[ubet28]

looking better just give it a few more days before you try upping the ppm.

 

[Guest]

I started flowering them since they got to 12 and 10 inches respectively, they're supposed to tripple in size and I don't want them to get too out of hand. I flushed and used the following nute amounts:

gro-5ml
bloom-5ml
micro-5ml
diamond-5ml
floraliciousgrow-5ml

2.5ml/gal and the ppm came to 350 with RO water but once the cycle ran once over night the ppm went to 500 and this is what mine usually does and then it stays pretty stable.

 

[Guest]

1 week into flowering, water and nutes are going away like crazy! the water starts out a very dark brown almost black and in 1 week it is see through. Also in a matter of this same week the water level drops to half, pretty crazy, lovin hydro

 

[WaterFarmFan]

Looking good man. Waterfarms kick major ass!!!

 

[Guest]

Looking good man. Waterfarms kick major ass!!!

Thanks, I just checked yours out and damn! they got pretty tall! Do you have any tie down tips to be careful and not hurt the plants, but still keep them relatively short?

 

[Guest]

2nd week flowering coming up.

 

[WaterFarmFan]

Thanks, I just checked yours out and damn! they got pretty tall! Do you have any tie down tips to be careful and not hurt the plants, but still keep them relatively short?

Hey bro. I wanted big plants, but they streched way more than I expected. Mine are sativa (Strawberry Haze) so they are going to be taller. I vegged them under a 1k MH for 4 weeks before switching to 12/12.

I would suggest a shorter veg cycle to keep the height down. It also has to do with the strain. I did lots of tie down and some supercropping by gently breaking the stems and my canopy is still 5 1/2 feet. It would be 7 feet if I did not do these.

Are you running any airstones in buckets? This is a great mod that really helps to airate the nutes. Keep up the good work.