authentic real durban poison?

[Legalcdn]

@Douglas Fir

In my opinion it's the other way around. Durban leans towards GSC, not GSC towards Durban How can we be sure that GSC is a Durban x Kush cross? There are people who question the content of Durban in the GSC.

Sorry for the skepticism, but the more I practice, the less I trust breeders.

Trust is a hard thing to achieve.

It just takes one seed production that was not done correctly and the strain is tainted. Factor in the underground portion of the equation for decades and it's hard to trust a loose version of events. We only know what we are told. Been that way for so long.

Even buying weed in the 80s, columbian gold / panama could have 2-3 different smells/looks and we trusted a dealer looking to only make money. Almost everything had seeds.

It's like driving blind.

 

[goingrey]

If I'm not mistaken all that we have been told is that one of the GSC parents was something called "F1 Durb", the genetics of which are unknown. And the F1 is a reference to the racing cars not the filial generation. Being fast and having "Durb" in the name makes DP a pretty likely candidate though.

 

[Legalcdn]

This is Cannabiogen's Durban. I grew this a few years ago. I don't think it's been hybridized but the THCV was bred out of it when it was taken out of South Africa and inbred at higher latitudes. So I flowered it under an 11/13 light schedule, gave it plenty of supplemental UVB light and pollinated it with Ace's Ethiopian in an attempt to breed the THCV back into it. I only flowered it long enough to make the seeds and I still haven't run those yet but I will say it was some of the best-smelling weed I've ever grown. I think it was mostly nerolidol that I was smelling. I once bought an ounce of some very Durban-leaning GSC and the smell was very similar.

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Nice choices. CBG were great in their day. I have the Ace Ethiopian also for the THCV in my collection.

 

[SurveillanceSkunk]

Nice choices. CBG were great in their day. I have the Ace Ethiopian also for the THCV in my collection.

Ace is a bust. All their shit is worked but not for flavor or effect. Pretty sure they breed in hydro and really have no grasp on quality. Everything they sell is myrcene dominant. Their shit all has weak effects, lame terps and a cbn comedown. The Ethiopian (I think) was like a lame wannabe commercial OG in every way. Maybe it was the Guawi or Malawi $of Ethiopia I don't remember it was all shit.

I'm assuming when people talk shit on "Dutch sativa" it's exactly what I've experienced with Spanish "sativa". Bad indica isn't Sativa guys. I still have the Golden taco Thai #3 or whatever the fuck to go through. After the lame as hell zamaldelusia I've got zero hopes and will literally never do anything with these seeds.

 

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@Douglas Fir

In my opinion it's the other way around. Durban leans towards GSC, not GSC towards Durban How can we be sure that GSC is a Durban x Kush cross? There are people who question the content of Durban in the GSC.

Sorry for the skepticism, but the more I practice, the less I trust breeders.

You're right. It was a mistake to say "Durban-leaning" and I've edited my post. I'm aware of the competing stories but all the stories I've seen involved a Durban in the mix. It didn't occur to me that there could be no Durban in the mix but of course that's possible. Actually, I just checked Phylos and the first 5 "Durban" samples I checked do not have GSC listed as a relative.

 

[Deleted user 4684842]

Nice choices. CBG were great in their day. I have the Ace Ethiopian also for the THCV in my collection.

Thanks. I also crossed the Ethiopian to Highland Thai for the same reason. And I'm currently working on [(Ethiopian x Emerald Fire OG Auto) x Emerald Fire OG Auto] in an attempt to increase the pinene and maybe add a little THCV if I'm lucky.

 

[StickyBandit]

Ace is a bust. All their shit is worked but not for flavor or effect. Pretty sure they breed in hydro and really have no grasp on quality. Everything they sell is myrcene dominant. Their shit all has weak effects, lame terps and a cbn comedown. The Ethiopian (I think) was like a lame wannabe commercial OG in every way. Maybe it was the Guawi or Malawi $of Ethiopia I don't remember it was all shit.

I'm assuming when people talk shit on "Dutch sativa" it's exactly what I've experienced with Spanish "sativa". Bad indica isn't Sativa guys. I still have the Golden taco Thai #3 or whatever the fuck to go through. After the lame as hell zamaldelusia I've got zero hopes and will literally never do anything with these seeds.

Although I'm not sure of the accuracy of your comments it's good to see an honest opinion with passion. Information can be gleaned from a cross section of information and experiences and I personally will take yours on board

 

[Wolverine97]

@Douglas Fir

In my opinion it's the other way around. Durban leans towards GSC, not GSC towards Durban How can we be sure that GSC is a Durban x Kush cross? There are people who question the content of Durban in the GSC.

Sorry for the skepticism, but the more I practice, the less I trust breeders.

GSC doesn't have real Durban in it, it has "F-1 Durb", which is a different thing.

 

[Wolverine97]

If I'm not mistaken all that we have been told is that one of the GSC parents was something called "F1 Durb", the genetics of which are unknown. And the F1 is a reference to the racing cars not the filial generation. Being fast and having "Durb" in the name makes DP a pretty likely candidate though.

I mostly agree with that. I would add though, if it is a DP they used, it's definitely the modern Cali/Colorado version not the original. No damn way the Cookie crew maintained the old line from the 80's, most of them weren't even born yet.

 

[bouc]

never smoked it, grew it for seed production/replication. I was gonna run a full tent and needed seed. i have no doubt it is a classic African psychoactive nld. but to confirm got to smoke myself. i also had to chop a bit early, so the resin did not fully come on. smell was mild. I suspect, just like the description on Khalifa's website, that the strain produces licorice smelling or anise scented flowers. the plants were very uniform in appearance. seedlings have medium thickness leaves, giving way to super thin adult leaves. deep serrations, dark green as well. flowers start wispy and foxtail hardcore. as the weeks progress, the flowers add more onto the ends of the wheat spike type flower clusters. sexual stability was not any issue for me, seemed solid. I made cannabis infused milk for my GF, she has pain issues and i use most of the flower material from seeded runs in this manner. i guess it would be called bhang. worked very well potency wise. I believe I read that this strain tops out at 16 percent thc if that says anything. I know there are other cannabinoids that affect potency and the color and feel of the high. I crossed this to a Laotian strain, but the plants were beat up looking so i did not take images unfortunately. This strain is very striking in appearance for those that may be used to hybrids or indica heavy modern strains. It has an almost mystical wispy, yet powerful presence. it has an elegance that pure Sativa's especially African varieties exhibit. I love this variety and at some point, will cross it to other Africans like Malawi or Drakensberg. For the price I'd say it's not bad, I do like Khalifa as a seed source very much. no pretentiousness, they are honest, quick and in general just trustworthy. I do hope they continue to grow and add to their catalogue. The Nigerian is next on my list!

Hello! After years of scrolling the forum in the shadows, i finally made an account to reply. Well it is odd, on the khalifa website they describes the aroma as ''strong pepper with a touch of passion fruit''. I checked the website from europe, btw ( different version in n.a ?)
I wanted to buy some, but this and the previous posts made me reconsider the legitimity of this seedline. Any thoughts on that? Is this brand really serious?

 

[Old Piney]

Hello! After years of scrolling the forum in the shadows, i finally made an account to reply. Well it is odd, on the khalifa website they describes the aroma as ''strong pepper with a touch of passion fruit''. I checked the website from europe, btw ( different version in n.a ?)
I wanted to buy some, but this and the previous posts made me reconsider the legitimity of this seedline. Any thoughts on that? Is this brand really serious?

Welcome to icmag ! Yes Kalifa Genetics is a very reputable company, I been growing their Moroccan Beldia and am pleased with it. They provide good service and I have no reason to doubt the authenticity of their genetics.They also have a bunch of educational videos on YouTube on breeding and landrace preservation. Their Durban is on my list to get

 

[Munson]

If anybody has tried the Colorado Durban, you’d know there’s no way that’s in cookie. Pretty much pure terpinolene and breeds pretty true. I’d imagine there’s maybe a hybrid Durban plus a little mendo purp

 

[NorCalSkunkLord]

If anybody has tried the Colorado Durban, you’d know there’s no way that’s in cookie. Pretty much pure terpinolene and breeds pretty true. I’d imagine there’s maybe a hybrid Durban plus a little mendo purp

People love talking about terpinolene, above all terps. Still not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I'm beginning to make assumptions. Sativa has become synonymous with nute terps. As the talent pool dwindles and cannabis becomes one step closer to becoming a schedule 3 Tylenol product.

Everyone knows Durban Poison smells like plastic/rubber. The guys growing licorice candy flavored weed are obviously adding something to it.

You're genetics aren't being preserved if they don't smell like Payless smh..

And everyone wonders why authentic breeders don't sell their genetics to the public..

 

[Munson]

To me it’s almost like an astringent piney witch hazel with a touch of peppermint. Same realm as like a jack or trainwreck. That’s how the Colorado Durban is

 

[Lebanizer]

How does anyone of you actually know how each terpene smell like by itself ? Is it possible to buy little samples of each to train one's nose like they do in the perfume industry ?

 

[Rastafarout]

Hello! After years of scrolling the forum in the shadows, i finally made an account to reply. Well it is odd, on the khalifa website they describes the aroma as ''strong pepper with a touch of passion fruit''. I checked the website from europe, btw ( different version in n.a ?)
I wanted to buy some, but this and the previous posts made me reconsider the legitimity of this seedline. Any thoughts on that? Is this brand really serious?

The Durban is definitely not from the 80’s
Khalifa should have done research … the dude claims he found a baggie of them , not refrigerated !mind you, from his uncle bla bla bla this is South Africa and hot plus Durban is super humid
I would be more amazed how he sprouted those after 40yrs then the genetics itself

but it’s a Transkei , and a BS story

 

[Munson]

How does anyone of you actually know how each terpene smell like by itself ? Is it possible to buy little samples of each to train one's nose like they do in the perfume industry ?

Crybabyorganics sells a terp kit

 

[Legalcdn]

The Durban is definitely not from the 80’s
Khalifa should have done research … the dude claims he found a baggie of them , not refrigerated !mind you, from his uncle bla bla bla this is South Africa and hot plus Durban is super humid
I would be more amazed how he sprouted those after 40yrs then the genetics itself

but it’s a Transkei , and a BS story

As you are from the area, how do you rate some of the strains from East Africa Genes?

 

[Rastafarout]

Durban terps are sweet herbal “spice” fruit(mango) earthy

But the catch is the “spice”
part can range from pepper to cinnamon, cloves to liquorice ect
which are also very similar to aniseed depends on the persons senses

 

[Rastafarout]

As you are from the area, how do you rate some of the strains from East Africa Genes?

Im growing some Malawi’s now I have one of Mikes I just cut , a few hermies . But looks good different terps these are fuely strawberry.
Malawians are definitely Africas frostiest locals …..