Rastafarout
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And the last sentence..sureSure.
And the last sentence..sureSure.
I got this reply by e-mail:what was their Vietnam Dalat Strain that they only announced and then vanished before Relase?
Hi Crunkyeah - I am not responsible (at all) for any sales at TLT and I get a fee per seed sold (it's not huge) and I can't say how much they charge the customers.. I'm sorry that you aren't happy about the costs.. it's hard to comment on the integrity of pricing - landraces can be a little harder to produce seeds from - sometimes they can take much longer to get into flower and take up a lot more space (but not always..) and all that growing for no bud at the end... there's an opportunity cost. If I was in this for anything but the love of my plants I'd just grow dutch/US style weed and sell it (like in the old days) but I just love my Jamaican, etcI have to put in my two cents here. Where I live... there will never be NLD specimens or any landraces for that matter; I'm too far north. As someone who can only read about the effects from these magical sativas the only avenue for me to try them is to grow them myself. Not ideal, but I make do with what I can.
TLT's seed prices are stupid... stupid expensive. The Jamaica Longtime line that Grover Sativa is responsible for reproducing they sell for 20 euro PER SEED. They recently released the Jamaican Blue Mountain which is also 20 euro PER SEED. RSC sells a Lambsbread x Blue Mountain F4 for £32.49 for 11 seeds. You could buy 5 packs of the RSC hybrid for the cost of a single pack of TLT beans.
As an observer and collector I don't have any opinions on the ethics of TLT. This is the cannabis seed industry; it's not always clean or easy. Here's some facts from my personal experiences:
I have ordered from TLT:
x10 JAMAICA LONGTIME
x10 MYANMAR - CHIN STATE
x10 SUMATRAN BANDA ACEH
x20 LAGKITAN
x20 DOUBLE SCORPION
So far I've been able to grow out the Lagkitan and right now I have the Aceh going. Wonderful plants. To me, every plant I've sprouted from a TLT seed has shown potential. For what it's worth I fully believe in the integrity of the plants they offer. Ethics on the company itself... gray area...
TLT responds to every single one of my emails promptly. I suppose when you spend $1500 with a seed company maybe you become a preferred customer. Who knows...
I do have to say after doing some investigating and talking to other customers I can confirm some of their offerings were stolen (no credit given) and they're charging a lot of money for seeds they got for free. I have talked with someone who has shown me proof that they stole his hybrid and labeled it as a 'creation' never citing or mentioning the actual source. He never got any recognition and certainly none of the profits from his creation.
They consistently steal photos from the internet from people who have purchased their gear and posted the pictures online. Several of the photos on their Instagram page for the Lagkitan were taken by me. They never asked me if they could post them, and honestly I don't care. I have since refrained from sending them any photos.
One of the reasons I've purchased several cultivars from them is because of the legal landscape of the source country... some of them have death penalties and for me it was cheaper to spend a few hundred $ than risk my life going to said countries. For example all the Philippine strains. Of course they do have to protect their source in these matters so I understand where some of the discretion comes from.
My thoughts on the company are as follows: if you want to source something badly enough to not care about how it was sourced... TLT is a good place to source genetics from. If money is a concern or ethics are important to you, search elsewhere. Some of the stuff they have can't be found anywhere else. Food for thought.
P.S. - I had to include this bit about sativa seed prices in general. In the US here I see prices for clones and hype strains ALL the time. These long flower sativas... nobody in the US wants to grow them. If people do, they're hobby growers who are like me and want to try it out. These seed companies are charging prices for long flower sativas which surpass modern hybrids. They all want to charge 'big American prices' to the rest of the world who can't afford our dumb prices. It's silly to me that modern hybrids have changed the scene so much that a plant which only offers yields of 450g outdoors sativa buds is twice or three times as expensive as a modern hybrid which will yield 1200g+ outdoors AND finish 8 weeks sooner...
yes we raised the prices. If that's too much we can lower them again. This is a rare strain. Not some cookies gelato which, by the way are sold at ridiculously outrageous prices!
If you buy or see the catalogue if, say, snowhigh he charges way more than our prices !!!
We're giving 2 for 1 this is because we asked you if you could let people know about this offer in the hope they would swarm in. It's a fair price 2 for 1 at 20 Euros a seed
OK - I got this reply - "
but it's not my business, it's their's - so it's not or me to ask them to lower their prices... but the Jamaican is mine and so I've asked them to give 2.5 seeds for 1 instead - 25 seeds for the price of 10.. I hope this goes at least some way to help with the cost of living and any bad feelings, etc.. or at least show our intentions are not dark..
but remember that it's all in the seed - 20 euros (and a lot of work..) for ounces of that {special} Jamaican sativa? it's a bargain!
That is mighty generous of you! Most excellent!!Hi Crunkyeah - I am not responsible (at all) for any sales at TLT and I get a fee per seed sold (it's not huge) and I can't say how much they charge the customers.. I'm sorry that you aren't happy about the costs.. it's hard to comment on the integrity of pricing - landraces can be a little harder to produce seeds from - sometimes they can take much longer to get into flower and take up a lot more space (but not always..) and all that growing for no bud at the end... there's an opportunity cost. If I was in this for anything but the love of my plants I'd just grow dutch/US style weed and sell it (like in the old days) but I just love my Jamaican, etc
Anyway, I've asked the guys to confirm the price of the Jamaican L.T. and also I've asked them to give them at 2 for 1 price.. (I've loaded them with seeds to make up for it)
Wow man i had never even heard of that site. Those are some pricey beans for sure@RobFromTX - One way I've found around that is to look at their strainly listings. That's always given me accurate prices for their gear without having to ask.
I'll agree, a little effort to keep the store front looking 'clean' would go a long way. I would like to see them post harvest dates as well. A little transparency goes a long ways.
99% will do that..dee wee gave me 10 from the 1% one that didn’t..eproducing and releaing the Vietnamee Dalat.
That they don't speaks volume about their mindset.They should list the prices on the website. Seriously. It would solve a lot of hesitation and doubt
That they don't speaks volume about their mindset.
Hell yea join the cheap ass club! Shout out to Colorado sativas! Love you man!