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[Three Berries]

There are no Democrats in my country.
I wear an N95/P2 mask which has much greater efficiency than a surgical mask. Even surgical masks help stop you from spreading the disease. During the worst of the pandemic it was easy to spot the arseholes who didnt give a shit about others by their lack of masks.

Do you get annual OSHA training session with an irritant smoke test to see if proper fit and function are achieved?

The disease was the flu. Why the hysteria? You should be mad at those who developed and released it onto the world. Instead you cover by pushing their narrative.

 

[GenghisKush]

Do you get annual OSHA training session with an irritant smoke test to see if proper fit and function are achieved?

The disease was the flu. Why the hysteria? You should be mad at those who developed and released it onto the world. Instead you cover by pushing their narrative.

Is it possible that you might be mistaken about the proposition that "those who developed and released it onto the world" are real and actually exist?

Who are "they"? What can you tell us about them?

(this part is a joke, but not really: Are they in the room with us right now?)

 

[GenghisKush]

hempy,in his weird backhanded way threatened a mod...i'm sure he's harmless,but that simply isn't tolerated here

Unc what isn't tolerated, precisely?

Is it that threatening mods isn't tolerated? Or is it that threatening any member isn't tolerated?

 

[Microbeman]

Well see you use to say how they stop transmission of virus. You know you are endangering the world if you are not wearing a mask hysteria of the day. And chastised people for it.

Complete fabrication.

 

[unclefishstick]

Unc what isn't tolerated, precisely?

Is it that threatening mods isn't tolerated? Or is it that threatening any member isn't tolerated?

that applies to any member,report it and the mods will take care of it

 

[GenghisKush]

that applies to any member,report it and the mods will take care of it

Please forgive me, but I am skeptical.

There is a huge amount of material throughout this forum that focuses on the discussion of ideas that various world events are the product of some nefarious, ancient plot by Jews (in particular, German Jews). This stuff is everywhere. As a contingent fact of history, this rhetoric is essentially eliminationist in nature. These ideas were instrumental in realizing actual genocide. This shit is not hypothetical.

Earlier in this thread I mentioned being upset that in this forum calls to action described as "Weimar solutions" are welcome. Surely if "weird backhanded" threats (as in the example of Hempy's conduct) is the standard for moderation, then this behavior, this rhetoric -- imbued by the terrible historical fact that it was instrumental in motivating industrial-scale murder -- cannot be acceptable either.

No one ought to be expected to have to argue on behalf of their continued existence. Eliminationism cannot be part of any "polite" discussion.

 

[unclefishstick]

Please forgive me, but I am skeptical.

There is a huge amount of material throughout this forum that focuses on the discussion of ideas that various world events are the product of some nefarious, ancient plot by Jews (in particular, German Jews). This stuff is everywhere. As a contingent fact of history, this rhetoric is essentially eliminationist in nature. These ideas were instrumental in realizing actual genocide. This shit is not hypothetical.

Earlier in this thread I mentioned being upset that in this forum calls to action described as "Weimar solutions" are welcome. Surely if "weird backhanded" threats (as in the example of Hempy's conduct) is the standard for moderation, then this behavior, this rhetoric -- imbued by the terrible historical fact that it was instrumental in motivating industrial-scale murder -- cannot be acceptable either.

No one ought to be expected to have to argue on behalf of their continued existence. Eliminationism cannot be part of any "polite" discussion.

threats are of a personal nature,what you're talking about is of a more existential nature,and thus not within the mods responsibilities.
i can only suggest using the ignore function

 

[GenghisKush]

threats are of a personal nature,what you're talking about is of a more existential nature,and thus not within the mods responsibilities.
i can only suggest using the ignore function

I assure you, unc, these threats are both existential and personal, at least to me and to my family.
I don't presume to suggest that I know what the right course of action is, but ignoring the problem ain't it.
We're not talking about some force of nature. We're talking about the choices made by individuals with free will (presumably).

 

[unclefishstick]

I assure you, unc, these threats are both existential and personal, at least to me and to my family.
I don't presume to suggest that I know what the right course of action is, but ignoring the problem ain't it.
We're not talking about some force of nature. We're talking about the choices made by individuals with free will (presumably).

the mods are volunteers on a pot growing site,that's sorta outside of our remit...getting rid of those members here won't solve that issue....if they're violating the tou that's one thing,holding beliefs you or i might find repugnant isn't against the rules...
i think organically fed weed is superior to salt based nutes,but i can't ban everyone who uses them...
once again,use the tools provide by the site,report post or use the ignore function

 

[GenghisKush]

the mods are volunteers on a pot growing site,that's sorta outside of our remit...getting rid of those members here won't solve that issue....if they're violating the tou that's one thing,holding beliefs you or i might find repugnant isn't against the rules...
i think organically fed weed is superior to salt based nutes,but i can't ban everyone who uses them...
once again,use the tools provide by the site,report post or use the ignore function

This is perfectly understandable and relatable. What I'm asking is no mean feat. One minor quibble, however. It's not that you can't ban everyone who, like me, advocates in the forum for feeding plants salt-based nutrients. Of course you can. What you mean to say, I think, is that you won't.

I can't (or won't) say I blame you. Still, it fucking sucks. We could agree to govern ourselves differently. It is possible. This is a choice.

 

[Three Berries]

Is it possible that you might be mistaken about the proposition that "those who developed and released it onto the world" are real and actually exist?

Who are "they"? What can you tell us about them?

(this part is a joke, but not really: Are they in the room with us right now?)

They are the DoD and Dr Fauci. DoD is on record with having 330 biolabs in 30 different countries. Fauci is on record and so is the NIH on funding Gain of Function research.

Part of the Twitter Files

 

[Chi13]

Do you get annual OSHA training session with an irritant smoke test to see if proper fit and function are achieved?

The disease was the flu. Why the hysteria? You should be mad at those who developed and released it onto the world. Instead you cover by pushing their narrative.

I have been using masks (N95/P2) as far back as 1980, although no longer need them for work. My son is somewhat of a WH&S expert so I know how to properly fit and wear.

However, you are moving the argument (yet again). You said that masks did not have any effect on the spread of Covid which is clearly rubbish.

Out of 6 immediate family members, 4 of us regularly wear masks in crowded areas. Only 1 family member has had Covid. Of course this is just anecdotal but it is backed by countless studies. Surgical masks aren't worn in hospitals for no reason.

 

[moose eater]

They are the DoD and Dr Fauci. DoD is on record with having 330 biolabs in 30 different countries. Fauci is on record and so is the NIH on funding Gain of Function research.

Part of the Twitter Files

The US has been a primary participant in the "Don't do as I do, do as I say' club for a very long time where biological and chemical weapons and related research are concerned, including at least 3 posts/bases in the US as primary locations; Aberdeen Proving Grounds, for one. Ft. Detrick and the Edgewood Chemical Biological Center for 2 others. And at least 1 more, maybe several.

Nothing new there.

'American Exceptionalism' is a fond dwelling place for many of the MAGAts and GQP, excusing our excesses under the guise of white hats and being the 'good guys' and all of that stuff.. Why take offense at this issue?' Is it because in the eyes of some, they perceive that we ultimately tripped on our own wire?

Shit happens when one plays in infested sand boxes.

 

[Three Berries]

This says the N35/P2 mask are worse than the simple gauze mask.

P2/N95 respirators & surgical masks to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection: Effectiveness & adverse effects - PubMed

The existing epidemiological evidence does not enable definitive assessment of the effectiveness of respirators compared to surgical masks in preventing infection. Healthcare workers wearing respirators may be more likely to experience AEs. Effective mitigation strategies are important to ensure...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Three Berries]

Pentagon-Funded Censorship Firm Graphika Began Monitoring Covid “Disinfo” On Dec. 16, 2019 – Two Weeks Before WHO Knew Covid Existed

• 
  Graphika, a company that monitors online communities for government agencies, began collecting data on social media users sharing "disinformation" about Covid-19 two weeks before the World Health Organization even knew of an outbreak.
• The private firm, which has received millions in Pentagon grants and contracts, targeted “US right-wing” communities as the top disinfo threat, right at Covid's outset.
• Graphika is staffed by former DOD, CIA and NSA officials, and played a key role in censoring the pandemic via the Virality Project, partnered with the federal government.

 

[moose eater]

This says the N35/P2 mask are worse than the simple gauze mask.

P2/N95 respirators & surgical masks to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection: Effectiveness & adverse effects - PubMed

The existing epidemiological evidence does not enable definitive assessment of the effectiveness of respirators compared to surgical masks in preventing infection. Healthcare workers wearing respirators may be more likely to experience AEs. Effective mitigation strategies are important to ensure...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

From the third paragraph in the abstract of the study posted.

"Twenty-one studies were included, with most having high risk of bias."

To quote a former sportscaster, "You make the call."

 

[Microbeman]

The US has been a primary participant in the "Don't do as I do, do as I say' club for a very long time where biological and chemical weapons and related research are concerned, including at least 3 posts/bases in the US as primary locations; Aberdeen Proving Grounds, for one. Ft. Detrick and the Edgewood Chemical Biological Center for 2 others. And at least 1 more, maybe several.

Nothing new there.

'American Exceptionalism' is a fond dwelling place for many of the MAGAts and GQP, excusing our excesses under the guise of white hats and being the 'good guys' and all of that stuff.. Why take offense at this issue?' Is it because in the eyes of some, they perceive that we ultimately tripped on our own wire?

Shit happens when one plays in infested sand boxes.

It is a little amusing, these newbie, Qs, etc. rehashing stuff we were aware of years back. e.g. CIA chemical experiments.

 

[moose eater]

And on that note, I think a puff or 2 of my own hashish is in order...

"And now, a word from our sponsors..."

Wait... Do I have any sponsors?

Edit: Yep, mm, they thought the banks monitoring our cash (and even plastic) transactions on behalf of the coercive government, free of compensation other than for the removal of regulations on the banking industry, was a relatively new thing, too. Not noticing, apparently, that it goes WAY-THE-FUCK back to their common hero, Ronnie Ray-Gun, and his 'Zero Tolerance' policies, that found us tolerating a huge ZERO in the Whitehouse for a handful of years. And a notable uptick in clean cocaine in the SW US. Thank God for Ronnie's positive influence on my access to good clean cocaine back then!!

2nd edit- I guess my wife is my sponsor. So, I'd best get my work done, or I may lose my subsidization. Yikes!!

 

[Chi13]

This says the N35/P2 mask are worse than the simple gauze mask.

P2/N95 respirators & surgical masks to prevent SARS-CoV-2 infection: Effectiveness & adverse effects - PubMed

The existing epidemiological evidence does not enable definitive assessment of the effectiveness of respirators compared to surgical masks in preventing infection. Healthcare workers wearing respirators may be more likely to experience AEs. Effective mitigation strategies are important to ensure...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results: Most studies suggest N95 respirators and masks are equally protective against respiratory viruses. Some evidence favors N95 respirators, which are preferred for high-risk procedures when aerosol production is likely or when the COVID-19 status of a patient is positive or unknown. N95 respirators may also be used for multiple patients or reused depending on the type of procedure and condition of the respirator after each patient encounter.

Conclusion: N95 respirators are preferred over masks against viral respiratory pathogens, especially during aerosol-generating procedures or when a patient's COVID-19 status is positive or unknown.

Masks or N95 Respirators During COVID-19 Pandemic-Which One Should I Wear? - PubMed

N95 respirators are preferred over masks against viral respiratory pathogens, especially during aerosol-generating procedures or when a patient's COVID-19 status is positive or unknown.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Results: Six studies encompassing 12,265 HCWs were included. In terms of the incidence of laboratory-confirmed viral respiratory infection, the continuous wearing of N95 respirators (network OR, 0.48; 95% CrI: 0.27 to 0.86; SUCRA score, 85.4) showed more effective than the control group. However, in terms of reducing the incidence of CRI, there was no rPPE showing superior protective effectiveness.

Conclusions: There are significant differences in preventive efficacy among current rPPE. Our result suggests that continuous wearing of N95 respirators on the whole shift can serve as the best preventive rPPE for HCWs from the VRID.

Comparative efficacy of respiratory personal protective equipment against viral respiratory infectious diseases in healthcare workers: a network meta-analysis - PubMed

There are significant differences in preventive efficacy among current rPPE. Our result suggests that continuous wearing of N95 respirators on the whole shift can serve as the best preventive rPPE for HCWs from the VRID.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Hammerhead]

Guys, you can't teach stupid. That's not gonna change in this thread LMAO. Your wasting your time. These are the people they believe in .