That price seems reasonable. Keep us posted. I noticed a competitive thread has already been created. Lol
$229 for 800w LED.....how bad can it be?
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driver77
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Agreed, I didn't get the spacing I was hoping for. Been busy and attention to the grow got placed way back. But! All clear sailing from here so hopefully can make up some lost ground with some tlc...and a new light lol.
driver77
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I'll pick one up for a backup in case the BESTVA fails.
driver77
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Better hurry..they raised the price a bit already lol
Ya I ordered it 3 days ago. I got the version with the remote, It will be here Tomorrow
driver77
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Cool! Be nice to get a second opinion.
I won't be using it anytime soon. I'll test it to make sure no leds defective. After that, it goes into storage.,
The price went up to 280$ and 240$
The price went up to 280$ and 240$
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driver77
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So far it seems to be doing great. I have absolutely no complaints. Plants are loving it, runs cool, and bright. I couldn't replace it for twice or even 3 times what I paid. I'll be curious to hear what Hammerheads impressions are.
FranJan
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Time for a little Devil's Advocate perhaps? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just thinking out loud here btw.....
That CIE 1931 basically tells you it ain't Samsung. I'm no expert in reading these kind of diagrams but I've never seen a MacAdams elipse that looks like that and that is positioned on the graph where it is. That amount of red isn't going to throw the CRI of a Samsung LED off that much. Not a big fan of that spectrum either, too much green and not enough red for flowering and no F/R. Probably makes a OK veg light. That hostspot in the middle doesn't really help, not a good spread for a bar light rig. But I guess you can't have everything for that price?
But yeah, that's not a Samsung based light IMO. I mean why would you advertise you're using their diodes buried in some picture, like they do on Amazon? Probably trying to stay off some bots/spider's radar if you ask me. Companies either broadcast what diodes they're using, (Hi MarsHydro!), or try to hide their LEDs like it's a state secret, (Hi Iluminar!).
@driver77 Anyway can you do me and everyone who's interested in this light another favor and take a few close-up pictures of the diodes during lights out? Most international and US companies have very distinct LED designs. Chinese ones usually stick to one standard. As far as I can tell from the pictures on Amazon they don't even look like Samsung diodes but their photos aren't that good.
3030 LEDs | SAMSUNG LED | Samsung LED Global Website
Samsung 3030 LEDs - Mid Power LEDs. Unmatched market efficacy allows extraordinary productivity, with line-ups to meet various general lighting market needs
www.samsung.com
Honestly peoples, if a company is lying about what diodes they're using, do they deserve your business?
TANSTAAFL!
I think we all know this is a cheap LED and we will expect the performance to be cheap lol. If it performs as it should that's all that matters. If it performs as well as Gavita that's a bonus lol. Why not wait and see how it performs before tossing mud lol..
Anyway, I got the light today The light dimming knob works, the power switch works, max wattage is 850. I can't test the rjports. I was able to get the Remote pared. The remote will turn on/off the LED, it has an internal timer for 12/12, 14/10, 16/8.. The ALL button doesn't do anything prob for multiple lights.
The Timmer and +- buttons change the set times so an example would be
16/8 will change an hr up or down so 17/7 or 15/9..
With a 3-year warranty, I'm OK with the price.. For a cheap LED, it's a solid construction. It came with 2 types of hanging hardware. The box was not stealthy..It shows what's in the box.
Anyway, I got the light today The light dimming knob works, the power switch works, max wattage is 850. I can't test the rjports. I was able to get the Remote pared. The remote will turn on/off the LED, it has an internal timer for 12/12, 14/10, 16/8.. The ALL button doesn't do anything prob for multiple lights.
The Timmer and +- buttons change the set times so an example would be
16/8 will change an hr up or down so 17/7 or 15/9..
With a 3-year warranty, I'm OK with the price.. For a cheap LED, it's a solid construction. It came with 2 types of hanging hardware. The box was not stealthy..It shows what's in the box.
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I appreciate your observations and look forward to seeing how this works out.Time for a little Devil's Advocate perhaps? I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just thinking out loud here btw.....
That CIE 1931 basically tells you it ain't Samsung. I'm no expert in reading these kind of diagrams but I've never seen a MacAdams elipse that looks like that and that is positioned on the graph where it is. That amount of red isn't going to throw the CRI of a Samsung LED off that much. Not a big fan of that spectrum either, too much green and not enough red for flowering and no F/R. Probably makes a OK veg light. That hostspot in the middle doesn't really help, not a good spread for a bar light rig. But I guess you can't have everything for that price?
But yeah, that's not a Samsung based light IMO. I mean why would you advertise you're using their diodes buried in some picture, like they do on Amazon? Probably trying to stay off some bots/spider's radar if you ask me. Companies either broadcast what diodes they're using, (Hi MarsHydro!), or try to hide their LEDs like it's a state secret, (Hi Iluminar!).
@driver77 Anyway can you do me and everyone who's interested in this light another favor and take a few close-up pictures of the diodes during lights out? Most international and US companies have very distinct LED designs. Chinese ones usually stick to one standard. As far as I can tell from the pictures on Amazon they don't even look like Samsung diodes but their photos aren't that good.
3030 LEDs | SAMSUNG LED | Samsung LED Global Website
Samsung 3030 LEDs - Mid Power LEDs. Unmatched market efficacy allows extraordinary productivity, with line-ups to meet various general lighting market needs
Honestly peoples, if a company is lying about what diodes they're using, do they deserve your business?
TANSTAAFL!
I have problems with passing off a grade D chipsets as a grade A.
I have fewer qualms about getting a B grade chipset that one could use as a veg light run
at three quarters of it's rated power. It will be neat to see if the product works out better than the parking lot lights many are using.
driver77
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Looks like different drivers than mine came with. Mine came inside a different box too.
FranJan
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Hammerhead's light is definitely not Samsung 3030 diodes. You can tell by the shape, design and the fact that when you zoom in you can see two arrays making up the LED. Samsung's production techniques and facilites use one array like this, (this is off of Samsung's website).
I forgot what package/technique they use to build their 3030 arrays but, as you can see, you can barely see their array.
Dual array LEDs can't run as hard as single diodes. They create more heat at the chip level and their radiometric output decreases. In other words airy buds.
And finally, God FORBID something goes wrong with those panels at your home or business because when your insurance company realizes you effed up your place with some non-UL listed light they're gonna laugh their asses off and cut you a check for shit. In other words don't let your greed get a hold of your better judgement.
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@driver77
After doing some more research I can't definitely tell if they are or they aren't Samsungs. I'm no lighting expert or a Samsung expert so I think we should take everything I say with some skepticism. They may be some early revision this company got on the cheap, I can't discount that either. If they work, they work but I've seen enough LED companies and salespeople be completely full of shit so I'm always skeptical of them. Plus that price, as MarsHydro pointed out, is a bit too low. Maybe I should try to show some of these photos to a Samsung rep? They would probably know or know the person to ask.
Good luck with that light.
@zachrockbadenof
If you've ever had a fire and the wiring is old and you try to collect you'll hit a wall of words like substandard and out-dated and all of sudden your 50,00.00 policy is 5,00.00. Lots of home insurances have boatloads of loopholes including having only UL devices buried in there, usually for larger appliances. For insuring commercial places UL and DLC are usually required, (including ETL, CE RoHS, etc.) And standards like UL8800 and 8800 S are becoming required and/or to keep your insurance payments low. That's why a company can call it a commercial panel but without the right standards it's not because your insurance company won't allow it to be used. You give an insurance company an out and they are gonna take it.
If you got a legal grow in your house, I would definitely have a chat with your insurance company. Peace.
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the mars hydro are ok'd by...UKCA,CE,RoHS, ETL, IP65.... i don't see UL listed.... what does that mean for insurance coverage??
