The Haze discussion thread

[Hammerhead]

Haze or sativas dont tend to have frosty looks to them they tend to be oily and a branch from a Haze or Sat often has more yield on it than what many get from a single plant from many of the modern lines on offer.

People that grow sativas dont grow them for bag appeal they grow them for the the high and only the high.

I don't know anyone that grows any variety for bag appeal lol. I sure as hell don't grow for the high alone. If there aren't any terps to go with the high it's tossed... I've tossed countless cuts that were only potent. For me, that's boring without any flavors.

 

[GoatCheese]

Is that your 78 Thai, Hempy?

Haze or sativas dont tend to have frosty looks to them they tend to be oily and a branch from a Haze or Sat often has more yield on it than what many get from a single plant from many of the modern lines on offer.

People that grow sativas dont grow them for bag appeal they grow them for the the high and only the high.

 

[willydread]

Bag appeal?
But what's more beautiful than those elegant, soft, airy, lightly coated with resin buds??

 

[Humple W.]

Thanks I see a Fluffy bud

I love fluffy buds. Make better joints, in my opinion.

Bag appeal can be fun to show off to your friends, but it doesn't make the smoke any better. I guess if cannabis photography is the goal, it matters? Personally, I couldn't give a shit as long as the smoke is right. But to each their own! Whatever gets you off...

 

[Dr.Young]

Hammerhead why the hell would you throw something away with amazing high because of a flavor? That is horrible breeding practice soldier..

The mom i used in my last pollen toss literally had the lowest odor ive ever encountered, it at best had a feint odor of moss... but had some of the deepest most magical mind medicine ive encountered...The best possible buzz for music, AND the longest high ive ever encountered by a longshot....

People breeding with terps in mind are the reason everything at dispensary is so bland, and uninspiring in effect... Please stop doing this lol..I wouldnt care if the weed literally made you puke it was so nasty if it could stop someone from having a heart attack or shrink a tumor... Doesnt matter how frosty, fat, and mouth watering the plant is... if its no different than 99 outta 100 other things out there.

 

[Hammerhead]

Hammerhead why the hell would you throw something away with amazing high because of a flavor? That is horrible breeding practice soldier..

The mom i used in my last pollen toss literally had the lowest odor ive ever encountered, it at best had a feint odor of moss... but had some of the deepest most magical mind medicine ive encountered...The best possible buzz for music, AND the longest high ive ever encountered by a longshot....

People breeding with terps in mind are the reason everything at dispensary is so bland, and uninspiring in effect... Please stop doing this for the love of christ..I wouldnt care if the weed literally made you puke it was so nasty if it could stop someone from having a heart attack or shrink a tumor... Doesnt matter how frosty, fat, and mouth watering the plant is... if its no different than 99 outta 100 other things out there.

I don't use cannabis just for the high, never have. No clue what an amazing high is to you lol. After 5 decades of smoking/growing Amazing weed isn't a word I would use. If it taste like shit I could care less what kind of high it has, weed is not Amazing lol. When I make anything it must have both Potency and terpenes. They're both important parts to making quality cannabis. Id say the same for anything that had flavor and no potency. My Firestorm is in the top 5 most potent strains tested in Cali @38%, Your assumption is flawed big time. It's a trip seeing how you interpret my post. I said nothing about breeding with no potency. People read shit that wasn't said all the time. There's a lot more to breeding that potency. As I said potency is only part of quality weed. Those of us that are doing more than potency are doing it the proper way soldier. I'll keep producing some of the highest potency and best tasting weed ever.


If you or anyone else prefers cannabis that tastes like crap and gives you a heart attack or paranoia you do you soldier . No clue what disspersory you go to but yes many do have poor quality weed. I'd suggest you find another that carries quality weed. They are out there..

 

[Dr.Young]

Yeah, i definitely see several wrong assumptions i made that you just cleared up, I thought you were couple decades younger, was trying to shame you outta hype breeding lol..38% thc is nice for science, but of no significance without absorption imo.. My apologies... Bow

 

[Hammerhead]

Yeah, i definitely see several wrong assumptions i made that you just cleared up.. My apologies... Bow

Yep, you know what they say about assuming. Ask any OG if quality weed is just potant. You can smoke that bland potent weed if that's what you like. It's not what I like. My work speaks volumes what else matters ??. What I make is far from hype lol.. Its pretty obvious you've never tried/grown any of mine but it's still hype OK that clears up lots. ..

 

[Dr.Young]

So blazed, and so many variables i can hardly type...Do you find the 38% thc strain to be your most potent? Or just another number?
What terpene(s)/combination do you seem to like for mind, and favorite terpene for body? Theres so many paired terpenes its infinite like a caryophylenne/limonene dominant vs myrcene/limonene I dont have rich side by side trial experience like you. I love haze and theres a pretty big range of combos I like the "Haze" terpene to be prominent but it can range from catpissy/ammonia floral/sandalwood and the subtle differences are so situational its hard to judge on smell because then you have thc/cbg/cbd/thcv ratios to think about anyway......
Do you find thcv or cbg to ampilfy thc effects the most in bubbly/uplifting/bright way.in a sativa/head high type strain like haze? Or terpenes more important for that?

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I don't use cannabis just for the high, never have. No clue what an amazing high is to you lol. After 5 decades of smoking/growing Amazing weed isn't a word I would use. If it taste like shit I could care less what kind of high it has, weed is not Amazing lol. When I make anything it must have both Potency and terpenes. They're both important parts to making quality cannabis. Id say the same for anything that had flavor and no potency. My Firestorm is in the top 5 most potent strains tested in Cali @38%, Your assumption is flawed big time. It's a trip seeing how you interpret my post. I said nothing about breeding with no potency. People read shit that wasn't said all the time. There's a lot more to breeding that potency. As I said potency is only part of quality weed. Those of us that are doing more than potency are doing it the proper way soldier. I'll keep producing some of the highest potency and best tasting weed ever.


If you or anyone else prefers cannabis that tastes like crap and gives you a heart attack or paranoia you do you soldier . No clue what disspersory you go to but yes many do have poor quality weed. I'd suggest you find another that carries quality weed. They are out there..

I understand your point hammer....if something tastes like dog poo no mater how strong its going to be the one always left last to use in your pile...or will quickly get dropped......yes might agree with that when looking at things for smoke/use perspective...but a tip..if you look at things from a breeders perspective..if you find something outstandingly strong but it has crap or bland terps, before binning it see if the cutt is able to pass on the strength as a trait....if so it may be worth holding on to...as one day you may find a line that only has beautiful terps you really like but no power.....in this situation you have the perfect tool....or you may have other lines that just need a bit more strength...again perfect tooll for the job is all ready in your arsenal....always worth thinking ahead if your breeding....of course if it cant even pass on the power..then not much point keeping it..and I understand in some situations people feel their are too many other good things to waste your time on something like that..but might be worth passing on to someone els tho...if they want it.
can you tell me briefly about firestrom please hammer..sounds like you did somme great work ...congrats on getting the recognition on your work for that one and the off the charts thc levels...sounds like a good un

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Thanks I see a Fluffy bud

Yeah sativas can be a bit more airy bud...but dont be put off trying them just over looks....I know a lot of people who bought things like purple punch or sluricaine just cuz they looked good....but belive me there are some sativas that can have unbelievable effects that can run for some hours..and just cuz they dont look like purple punch, cookies or sluricaine dont mean they won't spin your head out way more..tho hard to find in some places try checking out a good sativa or two and then come back an let us know what you think.

 

[Hammerhead]

I understand your point hammer....if something tastes like dog poo no mater how strong its going to be the one always left last to use in your pile...or will quickly get dropped......yes might agree with that when looking at things for smoke/use perspective...but a tip..if you look at things from a breeders perspective..if you find something outstandingly strong but it has crap or bland terps, before binning it see if the cutt is able to pass on the strength as a trait....if so it may be worth holding on to...as one day you may find a line that only has beautiful terps you really like but no power.....in this situation you have the perfect tool....or you may have other lines that just need a bit more strength...again perfect tooll for the job is all ready in your arsenal....always worth thinking ahead if your breeding....of course if it cant even pass on the power..then not much point keeping it..and I understand in some situations people feel their are too many other good things to waste your time on something like that..but might be worth passing on to someone els tho...if they want it.
can you tell me briefly about firestrom please hammer..sounds like you did somme great work ...congrats on getting the recognition on your work for that one and the off the charts thc levels...sounds like a good un

I don't look at it in any other way. All I do is breed 24/7 365. Sampling all of this is plenty to keep me happy. I breed how I like not how others like/want. The way I make my seeds has worked very well over the years. I have no clue why any think breeding is done quickly, it's not. It's extremely time-consuming. I DO NOT MASSUP hoping for something good. Everything has a purpose. Anything that has traits I want I use but rarely kept. On and on it goes until I've made what I wanted. I know what I'm doing..

Firestrorm was made long ago, this is not a haze hybrid. This is not the place to discuss my unrelated projects. All of my work can be found in my Sig link . If sig are turned off it can be found here

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijua...77179-hammers-perpetual-grow-journal?t=376925

 

[@hempy]

I don't know anyone that grows any variety for bag appeal lol. I sure as hell don't grow for the high alone. If there aren't any terps to go with the high it's tossed... I've tossed countless cuts that were only potent. For me, that's boring without any flavors.

Well people grow cannabis for its affect but potency alone is not key in determining the quality of a given line as there are plenty of uninteresting or unpleasant affects in some cannabis also.

At the end of the day people smoke/Vape/ or make edibles for the affect they get from cannabis not the look and not the taste alone.

I don't know any breeder that grows out the bath water with the baby.

 

[@hempy]

Is that your 78 Thai, Hempy?

No that's a 50% haze hybrid from Nevils

 

[TheDarkStorm]

I don't look at it in any other way. All I do is breed 24/7 365. Sampling all of this is plenty to keep me happy. I breed how I like not how others like/want. The way I make my seeds has worked very well over the years. I have no clue why any think breeding is done quickly, it's not. It's extremely time-consuming. I DO NOT MASSUP hoping for something good. Everything has a purpose. Anything that has traits I want I use but rarely kept. On and on it goes until I've made what I wanted. I know what I'm doing..

Firestrorm was made long ago, this is not a haze hybrid. This is not the place to discuss my unrelated projects. All of my work can be found in my Sig link . If sig are turned off it can be found here

https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuan...urnal?t=376925

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thanks..il check it out
by the way I wasn't trying to question you vision or method of breeding..my apologies if I made you feel that way...suppose I was just saying that some people may see a use for a particular plant were some may not. I know your a bizzy man and your hands are full...with many projects ...as long as it keeps you happy...thats what counts...an its a model that works for you with many supporters.
ps..I just had a quick flick through your link...some interesting things...if ive any questions il give you a message.

 

[@hempy]

Early Haze

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Early Haze

How did these end up smoking hempy, and what sort of flower times did you find ? The flowers look nice on them. Have you ever tried the nevils haze x skunk line ?

 

[@hempy]

How did these end up smoking hempy, and what sort of flower times did you find ? The flowers look nice on them. Have you ever tried the nevils haze x skunk line ?

They were okay Dark fast but i cant remember the flower time but it was fast and a practice line for people with no patience and limited space..

No not tried the NH x SK but did get hold of the ShitHaze test seed that shanti gave out at the same time as the MangoHaze test seed now that is an interesting line.Not much was said about that but i think it was Shit (Skunk) x to HzA and could be the father stock used with 122 to make MH.

I still have F1s of that to.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

They were okay Dark fast but i cant remember the flower time but it was fast and a practice line for people with no patience and limited space..

No not tried the NH x SK but did get hold of the ShitHaze test seed that shanti gave out at the same time as the MangoHaze test seed now that is an interesting line.Not much was said about that but i think it was Shit (Skunk) x to HzA and could be the father stock used with 122 to make MH.

I still have F1s of that to.

Did you manage to get a picture of the shit x haze by any chance...sounds like a good one

 

[@hempy]

Did you manage to get a picture of the shit x haze by any chance...sounds like a good one

I had lots on a disc along with Many NH and others but cant find it but picture NH early days the extreme haze of plants being expressed The plants with almost dark green black leaf to the dark olive green that is what i saw i would say as good as the Mango Haze test seed.

When i get around to them again i will take pics again.