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    Amare SE450+uvb

    After reading up on new led tech and seeing the results of the grow here on imag I setteled on Amare for my 4x4 closet grow. Added t5 54w coral plus and ati 54w actinic lights.

    Fem Malawi and Fem Zamdelica from ACE seeds and one Barny Farms tangerine dream ( c99xg13).

    6th week 11.5/12.5 veg'd just over 3 months 14/10. 35-36" tall now. 24-26" at flip for the african girls and for the tangerine d 22" at the flip and now 26." For the tight internodal length and manageable size in a 4x4 closet I credit the Amaire.

    One Zamdelica was quite leggy so keeping her in a smaller pot and bending the top over evened out the canopy nicely.

    Looks like I have one column pheno looking like the first to finish the cola is bigger than a beer cup and long as my forearm. Smells woody.

    Second Malawi is branchy loaded with buds and dripping in resin. No kidding the most I've seen but only done half dozen grows. Smells woody and oily.

    3 fem Zamdeica. 2 are bushy with one very much larger so maybe it's the golden tiger pheno. All smell anise and woody.

    last Zam is the thai pheno with narrow pale green thin leaves and the poorest eater of the lot.


    heat is not issue room temp 65-77F. It's winter here. the 4 built in heat fans and one wall fan pointing at it do the job.







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    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

    Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

    Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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    Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

    Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
    https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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      #3
      I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

      The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower
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        #4
        Originally posted by PetFlora View Post
        I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

        The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower
        hey thanks man. I copied bits here and there I thought about that but didn't follow through. Yeah, their over feed a bit even with feedings ec 0.8 but the thai pheno is looking about how I've seen others except for the compact size part of it.
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        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

        Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

        Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
        https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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          #5
          Originally posted by PetFlora View Post
          I have lots of experience using aquarium hot5 tubes prior to LEDs

          The 450 has all the blues you need. More does not help and could be counterproductive, as would too much N during flower
          Hey PetFlora, checked my notes on this grow. Had to cause off the top of my head couldn't remember why I added the extra t5s. I got this idea from Riddlem's journal. The idea is try encourage early amber. Need uvb, sulfur based nutes, and a strain that carries the gene for early amber.

          From Riddlem I got the actinic bulb promotes increased potency, coral plus promotes increaded trich production. Man all of them are resin laiden and one is just crazy so would think it's working.

          I don't know enough about it but it's possible with the Amare blue it would be too much. The blue leds are on the secondary switch and they advised turning that on the last couple weeks to harden off the buds. Riddlem advocates to run uvb starting in veg to develope uvb receptors in the plants.
          Last edited by Borderliner; 02-12-2017, 00:34.
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          Finished 9 sb
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

          Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

          Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
          https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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            #6
            Was a bit hesitant to post here in led section as you guys pretty much know you stuff. So hoping to get feedback and your ideas
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            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

            Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

            Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
            https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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              #7
              Originally posted by Borderliner View Post
              Hey PetFlora, checked my notes on this grow. Had to cause off the top of my head couldn't remember why I added the extra t5s. I got this idea from Riddlem's journal. The idea is try encourage early amber. Need uvb, sulfur based nutes, and a strain that carries the gene for early amber.

              From Riddlem I got the actinic bulb promotes increased potency, coral plus promotes increaded trich production. Man all of them are resin laiden and one is just crazy so would think it's working.

              I don't know enough about it but it's possible with the Amare blue it would be too much. The blue leds are on the secondary switch and they advised turning that on the last couple weeks to harden off the buds. Riddlem advocates to run uvb starting in veg to develope uvb receptors in the plants.
              I start seedlings/clones under the mono rings, then add CoBs once they are on their way. I have tried turning CoBs off the last 5-10 days before harvest, but results are inclusive
              Hail Hydro 2.0: New Beginnings
              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=342785

              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=329619

              Just because you weren't taught something doesn't mean it's not true, and vice versa

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                #8
                Originally posted by PetFlora View Post
                I start seedlings/clones under the mono rings, then add CoBs once they are on their way. I have tried turning CoBs off the last 5-10 days before harvest, but results are inclusive
                Pet Flora thanks good to know. When I turn them on it raises temps maybe 5F. so it's a balancing act for me as the closet is feed an ac duct from outside floor vent and it's winter here so not option at this point.

                less bushy malawi one. 36" 6 wk 11.5/12.5


                check out size of lower buds
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                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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                  #9
                  zamdelica thai pheno

                  this one usually doubles in size at flip. she did less than a 12" at flip.


                  internodal length 1"

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                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                  Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                  Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                  https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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                    #10
                    Malawi column pheno

                    6wks



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                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                    Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                    Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                    https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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                      #11
                      larger bushy pheno

                      check out the lower buds. no popcorn here excellant light penatration.





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                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                      Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                      Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                      https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Borderliner View Post
                        Hey PetFlora, checked my notes on this grow. Had to cause off the top of my head couldn't remember why I added the extra t5s. I got this idea from Riddlem's journal. The idea is try encourage early amber. Need uvb, sulfur based nutes, and a strain that carries the gene for early amber.

                        From Riddlem I got the actinic bulb promotes increased potency, coral plus promotes increaded trich production. Man all of them are resin laiden and one is just crazy so would think it's working.

                        I don't know enough about it but it's possible with the Amare blue it would be too much. The blue leds are on the secondary switch and they advised turning that on the last couple weeks to harden off the buds. Riddlem advocates to run uvb starting in veg to develope uvb receptors in the plants.
                        http://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/art...915-015-0156-y

                        This link is an overview of UVB's effects on plants. It is not a stoner study about how UVB makes killer trichomes, it is about the biology of UVB and plants.
                        It covers the UVB receptors the plants contain, along with much other information.

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                          #13
                          I am posting this before the article simply because I think it is a valid question, does the uvb not actually require to have a higher altitude and lower atmospheric pressure in order to be most effective not just uvb added at any atmosphere having the same effect?
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phaeton View Post
                            http://bmcbiol.biomedcentral.com/art...915-015-0156-y

                            This link is an overview of UVB's effects on plants. It is not a stoner study about how UVB makes killer trichomes, it is about the biology of UVB and plants.
                            It covers the UVB receptors the plants contain, along with much other information.
                            Phaeton, thanks for the info. will give it a read
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                            Finished 9 sb
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                            Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                            Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                            https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Limeygreen View Post
                              I am posting this before the article simply because I think it is a valid question, does the uvb not actually require to have a higher altitude and lower atmospheric pressure in order to be most effective not just uvb added at any atmosphere having the same effect?
                              Limeygreen, good question. maybe someone can help out.
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                              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=298125

                              Malawi Zamaldelica grow with Amare SE 450
                              https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=338437

                              Malawi x Panama with Amare SE 450
                              https://www.icmag.com/ic/album.php?albumid=74099

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