question for sam the skunkman on the original haze

[PandoraSeedBank]

Here's an old picture of "Cizaña" (darnel) from Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta View attachment 19002186
I´m quite familiar with this plant structure...If you ask me ,I´d say colombian

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Hello Raco, is that Moño Rojo?

Interesting, what's the name of the book?

 

[Rgd]

he original batch of seeds they got from Wolfman

very fortunate for him..I got those wolf man ot1’s too

.none looked close to that..

most looked very slightly wld..it was all good but not great weed though

that plant looks ....."Gah Gah" potential

 

[flower~power]

It’s on!

 

[Raco]

Buschdoktor-Service

 

[kro-magnon]

When I went to buy seeds in Amsterdam in 96 I visited the Positronic shop, it was insane, you could see the room with the different genetics growing and depending on what was available you could smoke the buds from those rooms; Coming from a country with 100% prohibition it was like paradise this shop. We didn't buy any seeds there because they had no more of what we wanted; Finally we bought some Afghani#1 from Sensi Seeds;

 

[flower~power]

Buschdoktor-Service

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The good old days!

 

[Raco]

Grow? Marijuana Magazin Oct-1996

 

[mexcurandero420]

Long ago if I recall we discussed the possibility of cannabis coming from borneo to colombia

Also past discussion have included African origins. I'd imagine that be a good probability. Seems African slaves have been brought to colombia since the 1500's .

Both parts of Colombia and Africa lie on the equator ,I'd assume acclimating wouldn't be difficult

Always great to read your post

1luvbigherb

In a 1979 High Times article about Colombia, there was an interview with someone from ANF who did in that time a field study about Cannabis in Colombia. He didn't mention about cultivation by US pharmaceutical companies in Colombia in the 1930s, only that here and there, there was some cultivation and use. This changed in the early 70s by the arrival of US hippies, but also when massive ship loads of Mexican seeds arrived into Colombia. The article did mention about Colombian indica, but don't think this was meant of a broadleaf cultivar, but from India.
The Mexican seeds were crossed with the Colombian indica to become new cultivars.

In a Times article from 1979 about Colombia, the article mentioned of introduction of Thai genetics in 1977 into Colombia. Cultivation exploded in that time after Mexico was badly hit by the Paraquat campaigns from the government supported by the US.

So imo we better speak of Colombian cultivars than landraces.

 

[Piff_cat]

Karl hillig did the most extensive landrace study in 2004 with 155 lines including 7 south African 2 Colombians and a Nigerian.

The main part of study was identifying allozymes- mutated forms of enzymes passed down from progenitor to progeny.

The biggest drug type diversity finding was shikimate dehydrogenase or skdh. The shikimate pathway specifically directs precursors away from primary metabolites toward secondary metabolites(terpenes cannabinoids etc)

a rare skdh allele was found only present in all 7 south African, the Nigerian and both Colombians. So south African def played a part

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226862901_Genetic_Evidence_for_Speciation_in_Cannabis_Cannabaceae

 

[elchischas]

Here's an old picture of "Cizaña" (darnel) from Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta View attachment 19002186
I´m quite familiar with this plant structure...If you ask me ,I´d say colombian

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I'm sure "cizaña" was the colombian that Siete used on the hybrid Destroyer.

 

[Normannen]

Colombian (f) x Afghan (m) F1...some of the best of two worlds blended together

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Half sister...colombian

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sorry if Ive hi-jacked the thread

As long as you contribute with pictures and interesting content (possibly personal experience and history of cannabis related) instead of boring people to tears with fruitless trolling, you're good in my books.

Not haze, but probably related through Caribbean stock: Jamaican x S. A.

 

[Raco]

instead of boring people to tears with fruitless trolling

??

 

[Normannen]

??

Referring to the "patent" guy.

 

[Rastafarout]

Karl hillig did the most extensive landrace study in 2004 with 155 lines including 7 south African 2 Colombians and a Nigerian.

The main part of study was identifying allozymes- mutated forms of enzymes passed down from progenitor to progeny.

The biggest drug type diversity finding was shikimate dehydrogenase or skdh. The shikimate pathway specifically directs precursors away from primary metabolites toward secondary metabolites(terpenes cannabinoids etc)

a rare skdh allele was found only present in all 7 south African, the Nigerian and both Colombians. So south African def played a part

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226862901_Genetic_Evidence_for_Speciation_in_Cannabis_Cannabaceae

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Yeah I’ve also thought this , lots of hazey expressions in South African landies .
racos Colombian above looks similar to this

 

[Raco]

Referring to the "patent" guy.

Can you elaborate please?
I don't get It....what did I say?

 

[Normannen]

Can you elaborate please?
I don't get It....what did I say?

Not you, sorry, I wasn't referring to you at all, sorry. I was referring to that dude going around saying he got a phenotype patented

 

[LostSoulsofHaze]

Not you, sorry, I wasn't referring to you at all, sorry. I was referring to that dude going around saying he got a phenotype patented

There was no need to bring it up bro, that's why he's confused.

 

[mexcurandero420]

@Raco
What is the title if that book you got ciñaza pic from?

 

[Raco]

@Raco
What is the title if that book you got ciñaza pic from?

"Enciclopedia de la marihuana" by Isidoro Rodríguez....3 volumes.

 

[Raco]

I'm sure "cizaña" was the colombian that Siete used on the hybrid Destroyer.

I think you're right.Siete was a founder member of CBG.
Do you know if Siete and kolmus are the same guy?