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TroubleGuy
What would you guys look for in your new (grow) house?
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PkRipper
no neighbors, mail box away from house , ground water well or chlorine free at least, and no natural gas or propane anything (drier,stove,heater hot tub) all should be electric appliances so you have no tanks to be refilled or noesy meter readers from the gas and eletric company poking around your house every few months, and the mail man dont come in the gate ,
also it seems that alot of folk like areas that are surrounded by farms, dairys , home bisnesses, anything that can make the nieghborhood average electical use really high already so the power consumsion will blend in with most everyone else around you.
no one beedroom shacks in the middle of town with an $1800 light bill.....
also look at houses rent to own or sumthing along the lines of buying it so there will be no inspections or maintance comeing around.....i cant tell you how many renters have a busted look on there faces when i show up to paint there house inside and out
also it seems that alot of folk like areas that are surrounded by farms, dairys , home bisnesses, anything that can make the nieghborhood average electical use really high already so the power consumsion will blend in with most everyone else around you.
no one beedroom shacks in the middle of town with an $1800 light bill.....
also look at houses rent to own or sumthing along the lines of buying it so there will be no inspections or maintance comeing around.....i cant tell you how many renters have a busted look on there faces when i show up to paint there house inside and out
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PkRipper
simple electrical books at homedepot are easy to follow and will have anyone willing and able adding 240 breakers and plugs anywhere they need them.
The main concern is the breaker box , the old twist fuse type are mostly a PITA ,and dont offer any 240 plugs . and those type almost always never have the third GROUND wire....
I know others look for the electric meters with the wheel inside so they can bypass the bill the comes in the mail with wd40 straw or a magnat......impossable in most of cali now btw...
The main concern is the breaker box , the old twist fuse type are mostly a PITA ,and dont offer any 240 plugs . and those type almost always never have the third GROUND wire....
I know others look for the electric meters with the wheel inside so they can bypass the bill the comes in the mail with wd40 straw or a magnat......impossable in most of cali now btw...
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BurmeseDragon
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A good roof! Plant coverage, or a garage, mostly things that make it something that nobody wants to go walking back into...other than stoned kids with girlfriends...something nice for the shed!
Just so everyone knows a crazy one lives back there, not a drug user! Ya just something, seems to take money to get a house or take one! There are some just rotting, in America! Backwoods not a chance of being repaired.
Just so everyone knows a crazy one lives back there, not a drug user! Ya just something, seems to take money to get a house or take one! There are some just rotting, in America! Backwoods not a chance of being repaired.
this one is right up my alley. ive had dozens of rentals in the last few years. first thing is i get a feel for the landlord by having a lengthy conversation on the phone even before i look at the house.
i like to get there before the showing to check out the yards and neighbors. then i check power capability. i have a 30 year old house right now that has 200 amps available. and i have a 1 year old house with only 100 amps, 100 amps limits the shit out of what i want to do.
i really dont care about how big the rooms are or high ceilings or anything like that, power is number 1 concern. bedrooms dont have to be big, do a vertical. im busting 6+ lb's in a 8*8*8.
good luck, any questions, just ask
i like to get there before the showing to check out the yards and neighbors. then i check power capability. i have a 30 year old house right now that has 200 amps available. and i have a 1 year old house with only 100 amps, 100 amps limits the shit out of what i want to do.
i really dont care about how big the rooms are or high ceilings or anything like that, power is number 1 concern. bedrooms dont have to be big, do a vertical. im busting 6+ lb's in a 8*8*8.
good luck, any questions, just ask
ItsAllOver
Devil's Advocate
In addition to everything others have mentioned:
- a garage is very nice
- I like to be out in the cut, no neighbors nearby at all, but that is not a requirement
- Large light fixtures that are easily converted into ducting outlets into attic/back into lights when needed (esp. with rental places)
- a garage is very nice
- I like to be out in the cut, no neighbors nearby at all, but that is not a requirement
- Large light fixtures that are easily converted into ducting outlets into attic/back into lights when needed (esp. with rental places)
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otherwhitemeat
Next house I buy is going to take into account a few things I missed on this one.
When I bought a home, my first rule was: basement. Seemed like the best place for the grow. Then we finished off the basement and I don't have instant availability to exterior ducting.
Yep, next house I buy is going to have an old, unused flue--easy acccess to old dryer duct, etc or my grow room will be on a 2nd floor where I can exhaust to the attic. Planning around an A/C running all year long is kind of a pain.
Good electricity (right amperage for intended op), recently updated panels, access to grounded receptables an absolute must.
Garage.
A good outdoor area for repotting, wintertime composting, BHO runs, and other odd behaviors that seem out of character with normal suburban living. Perhaps even space to have a small greenhouse or the odd outdoor plant or two. Hopefully rural, but privacy, privacy, privacy.
Oh yeah, and if you are going to finish off a basement, definately plan ahead by adding cables/junctions, etc
But I would say the primary factor for me would be exterior ducting above all else.
When I bought a home, my first rule was: basement. Seemed like the best place for the grow. Then we finished off the basement and I don't have instant availability to exterior ducting.
Yep, next house I buy is going to have an old, unused flue--easy acccess to old dryer duct, etc or my grow room will be on a 2nd floor where I can exhaust to the attic. Planning around an A/C running all year long is kind of a pain.
Good electricity (right amperage for intended op), recently updated panels, access to grounded receptables an absolute must.
Garage.
A good outdoor area for repotting, wintertime composting, BHO runs, and other odd behaviors that seem out of character with normal suburban living. Perhaps even space to have a small greenhouse or the odd outdoor plant or two. Hopefully rural, but privacy, privacy, privacy.
Oh yeah, and if you are going to finish off a basement, definately plan ahead by adding cables/junctions, etc
But I would say the primary factor for me would be exterior ducting above all else.
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TroubleGuy
Thanks for the suggestions guys...keep them coming. I'm in the process of relocating and want to make sure I have all my bases covered when I move.
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mrred
no neighbors within a mile, cheap electric, live around farmers that use alot of power, ability to shoot guns legally without people calling the cops, the door you bring stuff in shouldnt be in view of anyone, and high ground
LlamaSchool
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-Landlord's attitude
-Power - Modern breakers not fuses
-Power - 100 amp is OK for 4000w and under but 4000 is pushing it if you have a lot of appliances
-Exhaust - Basement (best place to grow) needs access to house ducting, chimney flue, dryer ducting, sewer, etc (as many as possible)
-Drainage - Especially for hydro guys it's nice to have a floor level drain in an unfinished basement
-Basement, Basement, Basement
-Power - Modern breakers not fuses
-Power - 100 amp is OK for 4000w and under but 4000 is pushing it if you have a lot of appliances
-Exhaust - Basement (best place to grow) needs access to house ducting, chimney flue, dryer ducting, sewer, etc (as many as possible)
-Drainage - Especially for hydro guys it's nice to have a floor level drain in an unfinished basement
-Basement, Basement, Basement
sirripalot
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buy buy buy. i know it's not feasible for everybody..but if possible BUY do not rent. I cannot tell you how many stories I have heard of maintainence crews showing up when there is a leak, or like somebody said above -- to paint the house. If you don't own the place you really have no say over what goes down in the place, so IMO you're putting yourself in a sketchy situation.
find a nice house, and yes..a basement is a must. almost all houses locate their washer/dryer in the basement, electrical, and plumbing. so you have access to everything you need there.
if you handle your odors well, and are competent when it comes to everything else I don't think it's necessary to live miles away from neighbors. think about it, your neighbor that lives right next door could be pulling 20 Ls 3 times a year and you have no idea
stay safe...
find a nice house, and yes..a basement is a must. almost all houses locate their washer/dryer in the basement, electrical, and plumbing. so you have access to everything you need there.
if you handle your odors well, and are competent when it comes to everything else I don't think it's necessary to live miles away from neighbors. think about it, your neighbor that lives right next door could be pulling 20 Ls 3 times a year and you have no idea
stay safe...
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yamaha_1fan
I would never rent. What I would look for is a place that is easy to buy, owner financing, lease to own etc. Check the terms on those carefully because a lease option means you have the option to buy, and still dont own it. IMO those landlords dont care and arent coming around unless you call.
Its easy to buy with owner financing.
A basement is a must, preferably unfinished. Everything else can be worked out, electrical, plumbing, ventilation etc. Dont expect to find a house with everything in a pefect spot. If anything, having good ventilation access would be 1st because thats the hardest to make several 90's in. Water, electric can be easily routed any way you want.
Its easy to buy with owner financing.
A basement is a must, preferably unfinished. Everything else can be worked out, electrical, plumbing, ventilation etc. Dont expect to find a house with everything in a pefect spot. If anything, having good ventilation access would be 1st because thats the hardest to make several 90's in. Water, electric can be easily routed any way you want.
some one should open a thread on what to cover if building new house.Like where to have things roughed in and what not ,and solar power panels and watt requirements to run op and house, off grid on grid and windpower ideas or converting old houses with the grant and tax benifits that are available or going to tbe availble soon.Adding our needs in green remodeling on older houses.
I have wondered why people aren't trying to use various options to get off the grid so that the high power bill isn't a threat...
Mr. Stinky
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do the math and see how big a solar array you need to run just 10 1k's. average 6 or so hrs of good sun a day.
http://www.namastesolar.com/faqs1.html#efficient
12 watts/sq foot. but we need to double that so we can run 12 hours of hps. so roughly 16 sq ft for 100w, 160+ for 1000, and 1600+ for 10,000. thats your entire southern facing side on a big house, over 40 feet square, or 40 feet by 40 feet. this kinda installation is not gonna go unnoticed by neighbors and passers-by. the attention you would draw by covering your entire house in solar panels or installing a 30' dia wind turbine in your yard would be a bit counter-productive to our activities inside
and how much would 1600sq ft of solar array cost? just the installation would be many thousands.
haha
http://www.namastesolar.com/faqs1.html#efficient
12 watts/sq foot. but we need to double that so we can run 12 hours of hps. so roughly 16 sq ft for 100w, 160+ for 1000, and 1600+ for 10,000. thats your entire southern facing side on a big house, over 40 feet square, or 40 feet by 40 feet. this kinda installation is not gonna go unnoticed by neighbors and passers-by. the attention you would draw by covering your entire house in solar panels or installing a 30' dia wind turbine in your yard would be a bit counter-productive to our activities inside
and how much would 1600sq ft of solar array cost? just the installation would be many thousands.haha
do the math and see how big a solar array you need to run just 10 1k's. average 6 or so hrs of good sun a day.
http://www.namastesolar.com/faqs1.html#efficient
12 watts/sq foot. but we need to double that so we can run 12 hours of hps. so roughly 16 sq ft for 100w, 160+ for 1000, and 1600+ for 10,000. thats your entire southern facing side on a big house, over 40 feet square, or 40 feet by 40 feet. this kinda installation is not gonna go unnoticed by neighbors and passers-by. the attention you would draw by covering your entire house in solar panels or installing a 30' dia wind turbine in your yard would be a bit counter-productive to our activities inside
haha
There are other alternatives depending on where you live but most of them require land. What I am saying is that there are certainly ways to decrease your power bill and make your grow op less suspicious.
