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[Cannavore]

democracy seems to work pretty good when there isn't a unelected predatory capitalist elite pulling the strings.

democracy and capitalism are incompatible.

 

[moose eater]

Seems all forms of government are failures perhaps asides from tribalism. Though what defines success/failure as most governments and nations appear to evolve and break down with time depending on the level of corruption taking place. At times some governments appear to thrive only to later collapse such as the Roman Empire. There are too many factors and outside factors to analyze. Perhaps as stated it is simply "human nature" which appears to be both benevolent and malevolent at the same time depending on the individuals and time of expression and influence over the whole.

This is covered fairly well in most political science courses, as well as institutional structure studies, wherein governments and bureaucracies, no matter how idealistic in origin or outset, tend over time to become more and more self-serving, concerned more over time with their own well-being, ease of function, continued existence, COLAs, budgets, and perks, rather than the 'serving and protecting' end of things. A telling fact being that many 'public servants' are better paid and with better benefits than those they 'serve'.

Eventually most of these organizations or structures view 'democracy' as messy and untenable, meaning it interferes with the 3-martini lunches, comfort levels, and fat paychecks.

Neither Lenin or Stalin practiced anything close to utopian communism or socialism.They were totalitarian, and

Or... as the Who sang, 'Here's the new boss, same as the old boss.'

While Israel recreates the same or similar crimes and inhumanity for the Palestinians as the Nationalist Zionists still cry about nearly 80 years after the fact, trying to ride the now-undeserved stale victim card of 'But, but, but we're victims of the holocaust!' while they recreate tbose similar conditions for the Palestinians.

For some of us this isn't a matter of scholarly intellectualized discussions around a punch bowl at an educated party of philosophers and yuppies, but outrage at the fact that war crimes have been perpetrated by Israel for 75 years, and the US repeatedly stands in the way of anything resembling accountability for the soulless bastards.

I pray for hard, fast-moving steel core, copper-jacketed karma to strike hard..

 

[moose eater]

democracy seems to work pretty good when there isn't a unelected predatory capitalist elite pulling the strings.

democracy and capitalism are incompatible.

Yep. But the programmed Nationalists and would-be patriots, in their self-abusing delusions have been sold a hollow bill of goods against their own benefit or interests. But don't try to tell them that, as it often leads to brawls. Especially at political rallies and in bar rooms.

 

[buzzmobile]

The comments section on that 1st article is bonkers.

You are correct.

 

[Microbeman]

Seems all forms of government are failures perhaps asides from tribalism. Though what defines success/failure as most governments and nations appear to evolve and break down with time depending on the level of corruption taking place. At times some governments appear to thrive only to later collapse such as the Roman Empire. There are too many factors and outside factors to analyze. Perhaps as stated it is simply "human nature" which appears to be both benevolent and malevolent at the same time depending on the individuals and time of expression and influence over the whole.

"The Iroquois Confederacy today comprises six unified Iroquois (also known as the Haudenosaunee, or People of the Long House) nations. The confederacy, governed by a constitution called the Great Law of Peace, was founded in 1142 and may be the longest standing democracy on earth.

Ben Franklin repeatedly drew on the wisdom and democratic principles of the Iroquois Confederacy and its constitution as he struggled to unite the 13 sparring colonies. For both the Provincial Council of Pennsylvania in 1744 and the Albany Congress in 1754, he invited representatives of the Iroquois Nations to help promote three core concepts of their constitution—peace, equity, and justice—as foundational precepts for unifying the colonies. He published quotes from the Onondaga leader Canassatego to explain how uniting the colonies in the way the "indissovable" confederacy had would build strength against outside nations. As Winnebago scholar Terri Hansen wrote about the 1744 proceedings, Franklin used Canassatego's metaphor "that many arrows bound together cannot be broken as easily as one," which became inspiration for the bundle of 13 arrows held by an eagle in the Great Seal of the United States."

Reawaken our Indigenous roots

U.S. leaders must recommit to the principles of Indigenous leadership to strengthen our democracy, says Allison Barlow, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for American Indian Health

hub.jhu.edu

 

[Microbeman]

"The Iroquois Confederacy today comprises six unified Iroquois (also known as the Haudenosaunee, or People of the Long House) nations. The confederacy, governed by a constitution called the Great Law of Peace, was founded in 1142 and may be the longest standing democracy on earth.

Ben Franklin repeatedly drew on the wisdom and democratic principles of the Iroquois Confederacy and its constitution as he struggled to unite the 13 sparring colonies. For both the Provincial Council of Pennsylvania in 1744 and the Albany Congress in 1754, he invited representatives of the Iroquois Nations to help promote three core concepts of their constitution—peace, equity, and justice—as foundational precepts for unifying the colonies. He published quotes from the Onondaga leader Canassatego to explain how uniting the colonies in the way the "indissovable" confederacy had would build strength against outside nations. As Winnebago scholar Terri Hansen wrote about the 1744 proceedings, Franklin used Canassatego's metaphor "that many arrows bound together cannot be broken as easily as one," which became inspiration for the bundle of 13 arrows held by an eagle in the Great Seal of the United States."

Reawaken our Indigenous roots

U.S. leaders must recommit to the principles of Indigenous leadership to strengthen our democracy, says Allison Barlow, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for American Indian Health

hub.jhu.edu

Native American Maps (and Ideas) that Shaped the Nation | Timeless

Native American historical influences on the United States, in everything from state names to influences for the U.S. Constitution, are apparent everywhere you look.

blogs.loc.gov

 

[EastCoastGambit]

Microbeman....Like

 

[Hiddenjems]

What is human nature?

This is really a nothingburger of marxists seeking to usurp the term socialism in order to market their failed marxist model of socialism.

Regardless if the cartoonist is an Azov fanboy or not, he captured why ”real communism has never been tried” in three pictures.

It’s human nature to desire to do more to get more.

 

[Hiddenjems]

That's because the national socialist flavor of socialism was not socialism whatsoever and was fascism, and fascists hate leftists because for the most part fascism takes center stage (likely through conditions created by the capitalist elite themselves) during times of deep capitalist economic despair to quell populist left uprisings (kind of like what's happening right now).

What is human nature? Capitalism? Why is it human nature to be forced to give your labor to an undemocratic unelected person for a portion of the value you've created for someone else? It's also only existed for a few hundred years out of the thousands if not ten+ thousand years humans have had organized civilization.

Nationalist socialism is socialism built on nationality instead of class. Instead of the proletariat taking control and sharing amongst themselves, the nationalist socialist looked to conquer all and share with only Germans.

 

[moose eater]

I'll post these again for those who seem to have missed or not read them.

Kibbutz Be’eri Rejects Story in New York Times October 7 Exposé: “They Were Not Sexually Abused”

A Kibbutz Be’eri official said the New York Times's story of sexual violence against two girls is “not true”: “They were not sexually abused.”

theintercept.com

The Story Behind the New York Times October 7 Exposé

“Screams Without Words,” the New York Times story about sexual violence by Jeffrey Gettleman, Adam Sella, and Anat Schwartz comes under fire.

theintercept.com

Think again about susceptibility to propaganda, and Israel's history of pathological lying in their propagandist press releases by the Zionist Nationalists.

Don't be a part of the fucking problem. You aren't required to be.

 

[moose eater]

 

[moose eater]

 

[moose eater]

Israel Conflict Spreads to 16 Nations as Biden Admin Says There’s No War

Iran’s retaliatory strikes on Israel highlight an America-led regional war spanning Iraq, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and others.

theintercept.com

 

[moose eater]

Israel and Israel Alone Kicked Off This Escalation — In a Bid to Drag U.S. Into War With Iran

Benjamin Netanyahu’s recklessness was fostered by Joe Biden’s deference, but Israel is trying to drag the U.S. into war with Iran.

theintercept.com

 

[Brother Nature]

It’s human nature to desire to do more to get more.

You mean it's human nature to manipulate those you deem lesser than you to do your work for you....

Doing more to get more sounds like a slaves mentality...

 

[Cannavore]

Nationalist socialism is socialism built on nationality instead of class. Instead of the proletariat taking control and sharing amongst themselves, the nationalist socialist looked to conquer all and share with only Germans.

My bro the nazi's were fascists. They privatized (did capitalism) tons of government owned industry and KILLED all the socialists including German ones.

Go find any objective historian and ask them this. And as long as it isn't PragerU they will tell you they were not socialists whatsoever.

How do we seem to have this same conversation weekly lmao.

 

[moose eater]

Every now and again one has to wonder if Judith Miller and the CIA are still writing for the NYT and dictating journalistic policy there.. Well, I don't wonder too much. Only Miller is really gone. The State Dept apparently still has a seat on their board. Bibi's lackeys, as well.

You know.. the same New York Times that published the bogus 'weaponized rape' expose' that was written in part by the same woman who boosted the claims of the already-disproven beheaded 40 babies.

Leaked NYT Gaza Memo Tells Journalists to Avoid Words “Genocide,” “Ethnic Cleansing,” and “Occupied Territory”

An internal style memo from New York Times editors tells reporters not to use words like “genocide” or “Palestine” when covering Israel’s war on Gaza.

theintercept.com

 

[moose eater]

The USA/Oval Office/State Dept and Bibi are joined at the hip.

U.S., Not Israel, Shot Down Most Iran Drones and Missiles

American forces did most of the heavy lifting responding to Iran’s retaliation for the attack on its embassy in Damascus.

theintercept.com

 

[moose eater]

Democrats Question U.S. Claims That Israel Isn’t Violating International Law Using American Weapons

Biden campaign co-chair Rep. Veronica Escobar co-led a letter questioning the administration's compliance with its own arms transfer memo.

theintercept.com

 

[moose eater]

Free speech snubbed a bit to accommodate the Zionists' mantras. Disappointing, but not shocking in the least.

Ahead of Congressional Testimony, Columbia President Cracks Down on Student Advocacy for Palestine

Columbia, Vanderbilt, and Pomona College severely disciplined students protesting against Israel’s war in Gaza this month.

theintercept.com